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Women-priest fakers allow Protestants [UCC] to define who Catholics are. There must be consequences.
What Does The Prayer Really Say ^ | 4/28/2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 04/28/2013 8:56:28 AM PDT by markomalley

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To: NYer; Gamecock; metmom
33,820 is the number of denominations/paradenominations reported in the 2001 Second Edition of Barrett's World Christian Encyclopedia. 38,000 was cited for the 2006 edition. That is an increase of 5,000 in 5 years, or 1000 per year.
Do not allege that there are 33,000 Protestant denominations. This tally comes from the 2001 World Christian Encyclopedia, and it includes all denominations and paradenominations which self-identify as Christian, including Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, Old Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Gnostics, Bogomils, etc.
-- from the thread Unsound Sticks, or, Arguments Catholics Shouldn't Use
When this figure first surfaced among Roman Catholic apologists, it started at 20,000 Protestant denominations, grew to 23,000 Protestant denominations, then to 25,000 Protestant denominations. More recently, that figure has been inflated to 28,000, to over 32,000. These days, many Roman Catholic apologists feel content simply to calculate a daily rate of growth (based on their previous adherence to the original benchmark figure of 20,000) that they can then use as a basis for projecting just how many Protestant denominations there were, or will be, in any given year....

....If the Roman Catholic apologist wants instead to cite 8,196 idiosyncrasies within Protestantism, then he must be willing to compare that figure to at least 2,942 (perhaps upwards of 8,000 these days) idiosyncrasies within Roman Catholicism. In any case, he cannot compare the one ecclesial tradition of Roman Catholicism to 25,000, 8,196, or even twenty-one Protestant denominations; for Barrett places Roman Catholicism (as a single ecclesial tradition) on the same level as Protestantism (as a single ecclesial tradition)....

....In short, Roman Catholic apologists have hurriedly, carelessly—and, as a result, irresponsibly—glanced at Barrett’s work, found a large number (22,189), and arrived at all sorts of absurdities that Barrett never concluded. One can only hope that, upon reading this critique, Roman Catholic apologists will finally put this argument to bed. The more likely scenario, however, is that the death of this argument will come about only when Evangelicals consistently point out this error—and correct it—each time it is raised by a Roman Catholic apologist. Sooner or later they will grow weary of the embarrassment that accompanies citing erroneous figures in a public forum.
-- from the thread 30,000 Protestant Denominations?


81 posted on 04/28/2013 6:37:59 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: metmom

Why are you not answering a simple question?

Do you agree with these quotes?

“All of the Lent and Easter abomination is pagan and God clearly condemned it in scripture.”

“God doesn’t smile down on people who celebrate Easter.”


82 posted on 04/28/2013 6:44:32 PM PDT by narses
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To: editor-surveyor

Yes, God gave creation to all, including Catholics.

No, Catholics do not bow down to idols. Do you honor your mother and father? Do you bow down to them? We honor the people the statues represent.

Yes, the story of the birth of Jesus is true. But yes, Jesus was there from the beginning in Genesis, too. A great mystery — isn’t it.

BTW, where do you get your strange Catholic ideas?


83 posted on 04/28/2013 6:45:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation; editor-surveyor
BTW, where do you get your strange Catholic ideas?

That's a good question. Where did you get yours?

84 posted on 04/28/2013 6:47:47 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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To: narses
>> Your words mark you CB.<<

I most certainly hope they do. I’m so thankful to you for continually bringing that from thread to thread. It gives me the opportunity to continue to expose the pagan influences into the RCC. The beginning of the pagan Easter observance began with Semiramis and her son Tamuz you know. Weeping for Tamuz is even mentioned in scripture. You should look up the pagan “queen of heaven” Semiramis and her son Tamuz sometime. Tamuz was killed by a wild hog you know. That’s why Semiramis dictated that the preserved meat of a hog should be consumed each spring equinox. Interesting isn’t it? Ever have the traditional ham on Easter? Ever wonder why the RCC uses the sunburst so much? Check out Baal and the sun god.

85 posted on 04/28/2013 6:58:51 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

I love the Word of God,I hope someday you also come to love the entire Word of God and not merely the new testament.


86 posted on 04/28/2013 6:59:12 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: Craftmore; metmom
>>not merely the new testament.<<

You mean something like this from the Old Testament?

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. 31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods

Care to guess how much of the RCC symbols, rituals, garments, and feast days come from pagan religion?

Or something like this?

"Your appointed feasts My soul hates" (Isaiah 1:14–15)

"I hate, I despise your feast days, and I do not savor your sacred assemblies" (Amos 5:21–23)

87 posted on 04/28/2013 7:06:30 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

yep,which is why I strongly disagree with RCC worship of Mary and the saints.


88 posted on 04/28/2013 7:18:46 PM PDT by Craftmore
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To: CynicalBear

89 posted on 04/28/2013 7:21:06 PM PDT by narses
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To: narses

Cross threading and now making it personal? Hmm!


90 posted on 04/28/2013 7:30:19 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

“I’m so thankful to you for continually bringing that from thread to thread.”

At your persistant request.


91 posted on 04/28/2013 7:38:38 PM PDT by narses
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To: markomalley

My first response to this news was simply, by definition “they aren’t Catholic.” Period.

They may be protestants, but they aren’t Protestant. I would be very sad to learn that the RCC would be interested in ecumenical ties with the UCC.

So, Mark, please don’t tie the little “p” reprobates with the big “P” churches.

I’m not a Catholic, but I agree with you that the Bishops should respond firmly and clearly that this was not a Catholic exercise and is completely meaningless.


92 posted on 04/28/2013 7:45:31 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: metmom

Amen!


93 posted on 04/28/2013 7:49:50 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Alex Murphy

I have my sources, the Bible, Holy Tradition, the Catechism — lots of reading about the lives of the saints.

And yours?


94 posted on 04/28/2013 9:28:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses

“All of the Lent and Easter abomination is pagan and God clearly condemned it in scripture.”

“God doesn’t smile down on people who celebrate Easter.”

They would make awesome new tag lines, anyhow.

Freegards


95 posted on 04/28/2013 9:30:18 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Salvation; editor-surveyor
No, Catholics do not bow down to idols. Do you honor your mother and father? Do you bow down to them? We honor the people the statues represent.

Honoring is one thing. Respect is one thing.

Bowing down to statues, praying to them and burning incense to them is another thing entirely.

Unless someone has been brainwashed into believing that they are the same thing.

Exodus 20:4-6 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Pope breaking this commandment....


96 posted on 04/28/2013 9:38:06 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Craftmore

I think you misconstrued what I was saying.


97 posted on 04/28/2013 9:40:55 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: CynicalBear; Craftmore

In post 57 Cm was called a pervert apparently for believing the Word of God.

I think he’s on our side with this.


98 posted on 04/28/2013 9:43:43 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Are you not aware that the Commandments are worded differently and grouped differently in the Catholic Bible vs. the KJV? (or other bibles used by non-Catholics

And tell me, please, how do you know what is on the Pope's heart? Are you now a mind-reader?

99 posted on 04/28/2013 9:43:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

I have NEVER heard of anyone burning incense to a statue!! LOL! What a mistaken belief, you have there, dear metmom.


100 posted on 04/28/2013 9:45:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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