Posted on 05/17/2013 3:34:35 PM PDT by Frank Broom
Paul counseled that failure to recognize the healing gift in the breaking of Yeshua’s skin was a cause of disease and early death.
You have a very twisted imagination."
You are kidding, right? I recognize the Scriptures teach that man is under the curse until Jesus returns and sets the universe free and I have a twisted imagination? You, my FRiend, are the one imagining Jesus will cure all of your illnesses. Tell that to the child dying of cancer. Tell that to the wife who lost her husband to a heart attack. You, my FRiend, do not know the Scriptures.
You, and your Benny Hinn cult, ought to read the Book without your money-hungry eyes and listen to its remarks carefully. If you were right, there would be no death or growing old. I challenge you and your ilk to beat those. Perhaps you believe you and your compatriots are the only really righteous men on the planet. Is that it?
All disease has a spiritual cause, and a spiritual cure.
Healing is promised, as a part of the kingdom, and the gates of hell will prevail not against those who participate in the kingdom.
Those such as yourself that reject the kingdom will need more earthly avenues, and a high tolerance for grief.
“By his stripes we are healed.”
I’m not a doctor
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You are very strange, good nite
Coming from you, that is grand praise!
Thanks.
You’re welcome, enjoy the 13th century.
The nature of Paul’s thorn is inconclusive among Biblical scholars...some believe it wsa a physical ailment, others do not. A messenger of Satan could have brought an illness to bear.
The New Testament is full of Scriptures which describe Jesus taking on our sins. Yes, those who asked Jesus for healing during His earthly ministry were healed. But how does that translate into the notion that Christians are never supposed to be sick? If that’s true, why do believers die?
Sorry, I’m not into trying to control God. He can and does heal people, but it is entirely His will to do so, or not. He is not bound to do it.
The 13th century, and all other failures since are all yours.
I’m going with Yehova’s kingdom.
Jeremiah 17:
[5] Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from Yehova.
[6] For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
[7] Blessed is the man that trusteth in Yehova, and whose hope Yehova is.
[8] For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
>> But how does that translate into the notion that Christians are never supposed to be sick?” <<
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Strawman!
Christians sin too.
Prov 26:2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come.
Disease is a curse brought on by sin. Confess and repent of the sin and its disease departs.
Thank you RoosterRedux for taking the time to read this article and for your comment. Thanks!
Yur welcome. You stirred up a good debate!;-)
It you that I reject, my FRiend, not the kingdom. You and your poor hermeneutic. However this error came upon your group, sooner or later you will find that your interpretive bias has led you down a blind alley.
The healing which Jesus the Messiah of Israel offers is the sick and dead nature of men chosen before the foundation of the world. He has come to destroy the rightful punishment due us for our sin and rebellion. He has come to rescue us from ourselves...not make us healthy physically. His healing has nothing to do with physical health.
Your cult-like group ignores the fact the, "...whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, EVEN WE OURSELVES groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body."
When you guys can add a leg to an Afghanistan veteran, let us know. When one of your weird group has lived beyond 140 years give us a call. Are you aging? That is a sign of the curse on the earth. You are part of it and cannot escape it. Or perhaps you are just too sinful?
And do you also contend Jesus was a Zebra? After all, "...by His stripes..." Wake up, my FRiend.
Obviously you are not a believer in the spoken words of Yeshua.
The blind alley is your location, but dont worry, the way you are traveling is wide, and many travel it, so your lack of sight won’t keep you from your destination.
>> “When you guys can add a leg to an Afghanistan veteran, let us know” <<
Comments like that show your character, but the fact is that limbs have grown, and it is beyond you and your facetious prattle to understand. Healing is promised and it is delivered to those that obey.
You don’t make the rules, Yehova does, and he never backs out of a deal, no matter how much you want him to; it would surely give you and your ilk justification for your hollow, bitter view.
The blind alley is your location, but dont worry, the way you are traveling is wide, and many travel it, so your lack of sight won’t keep you from your destination.
>> “When you guys can add a leg to an Afghanistan veteran, let us know” <<
Comments like that show your character, but the fact is that limbs have grown, and it is beyond you and your facetious prattle to understand. Healing is promised and it is delivered to those that obey.
You don’t make the rules, Yehova does, and he never backs out of a deal, no matter how much you want him to; it would surely give you and your ilk justification for your hollow, bitter view."
There is no question that I am not a believer in the error-filled "gospel" you promote. I do, however, cling to the Messiah of Israel, Jesus of Nazareth, the Lion of Judah, the Root of Jesse, the Lamb of God, the Rescuer of the Elect.
The devastation which your errant hermeneutic causes is enormous. Not just to yourself, but to other lesser-taught believers. To represent the Gospel as a promise of physical healing in all situations trains the eyes of the hearers on the "now" life, just as those cult-like Osteen messages do. It promotes a skewed view of the real problem of sin and replaces it with a teaser of advantage over the rest of the world. If your understanding is correct, then we can only conclude that the children killed in the OK tornado were evil and did not "obey". After all, wouldn't Jesus have protected them if they were as good as you?
There is no question that God has managed you into this wrong-headed understanding, but it is our job to call to you and entreat, rebuke, correct you to stop teaching such error. Please give us a heads-up when your wife, sister, brother, mother dies of cancer and your snake-dancing cult stands by unable to do anything.
The error is all yours.
Your post makes it plain that you flatly reject the spoken words of Yeshua, and his prophets.
BTW, Yeshua is a Netzer of David. The “Nazereth” stuff is just nonsense from the Greek mistranslations that has taken hold of those that wish to be deceived.
Enjoy your bitter hollow ignorant “faith.”
Spreading your lack of understanding to the tragedy in Oklahoma is just what I would expect from that kind of tare.
Your post makes it plain that you flatly reject the spoken words of Yeshua, and his prophets.
BTW, Yeshua is a Netzer of David. The “Nazereth” stuff is just nonsense from the Greek mistranslations that has taken hold of those that wish to be deceived.
Enjoy your bitter hollow ignorant “faith.”
Spreading your lack of understanding to the tragedy in Oklahoma is just what I would expect from that kind of tare."
Ouch. Call me anything but a tare.
So, Jesus did not live in Nazareth? Luke 2:39 reporting the words,"polis eautown Nadzareth" means the "Netzer of David" not,"their own city of Nazareth"? Where did you learn Greek?
But, you did not help us out here with the bigger question. Were the children killed in OK especially wicked or disobedient? Do the believers' children who die of cancer in the hospital have lives of disobedience and thus deserve their miserable deaths, say, more than you? Do you know some 140 year olds in your cult which defy physical death? Are you going to defy death due to your obedience? Just this dirty, filthy tare wondering...
Since you have such great vision, and insights into what Yehova really meant in secret code when he gave us his word, give us your great revelation about Oklahoma. (I’m sure this is really going to be worth hearing)
Sorry, my FRiend, my views are not on the block right now. It was your unusual, read that bizarre, claim that Jesus has promised healthy physical lives for everyone who is obedient. We are awaiting your biblically based discussion accounting for the dead children in OK and the children dying in, say, Dornbecher Children's Hospital in Portland. We are curious if your explanation includes a claim that you are more righteous than they are, since you are healthy.
Further, we are hoping you can deliver on examples of limbs growing back (names, addresses, times, particular limbs, and the prayer content which induced such replacements) and men/women in your group (names, addresses, etc.) living beyond 140 years due to their personal righteousness. After all, Jesus raised Lazarus in a very public setting. And, no fair saying Bob got his sore back fixed (ala Benny Hinn, Oral Hygene, etc.)...that is just softball. We want some dead raised, heads growing back, 2 new legs...you know, the real deal.
I might add, I am extraordinarily healthy so under your paradigm, I must be extraordinarily righteous. Hmmmm. Personally, I can attest that this is not the case. I suspect Mark can attest to my lack of extraordinary righteousness, also. What went wrong/right?
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