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WHY DID JOSEPH SMITH DIE SO YOUNG? [Anniversary of Mormon leader's death]
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Posted on 06/28/2013 12:11:40 PM PDT by Colofornian

“For although a man may have many revelations, and have power to do many mighty works, yet if he boasts in his own strength, and sets at naught the counsels of God, and follows after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires, he must fall and incur the vengeance of a just God upon him.”—Doctrine and Covenants 3:4

Did Joseph Smith “boast in his own strength”?

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had…A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.…”—Joseph Smith, May 26, 1844, History of the Church, vol 6, pp. 408-409

“I prophesy they never will have power to kill me till my work is accomplished, and I am ready to die.”—History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 58

Was Joseph “ready to die”?

Joseph…opening the door a few inches he discharged his six shooter in the stairway…two or three barrels of which missed fire.…and he fell outward into the hands of his murderers, exclaiming. ‘O Lord, my God!’” —June 27, 1844, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 618

“Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.” —Proverbs 25:14

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This is the 169th anniversary of the death of the original founder of Mormonism.

He died firing off one of his two loaded pistols in a home-like "jail cell" -- not a very common thing for "inmates" to have possession -- as he was overrun by vigilantes in an exchange of fire. He shot some of those moving in on him, and his brother Hyrum, also killed by these vigilantes, was shot both from the front (by the vigilantes) as well as one unexplained bullet wound from the back. [His brother Joseph was shooting from behind him]

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“For although a man may have many revelations, and have power to do many mighty works, yet if he boasts in his own strength, and sets at naught the counsels of God, and follows after the dictates of his own will and carnal desires, he must fall and incur the vengeance of a just God upon him.”—Doctrine and Covenants 3:4

Did Joseph Smith “boast in his own strength”?

“I have more to boast of than ever any man had…A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I.…”—Joseph Smith, May 26, 1844, History of the Church, vol 6, pp. 408-409

“I prophesy they never will have power to kill me till my work is accomplished, and I am ready to die.”—History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 58

Was Joseph “ready to die”?

Joseph…opening the door a few inches he discharged his six shooter in the stairway…two or three barrels of which missed fire.…and he fell outward into the hands of his murderers, exclaiming. ‘O Lord, my God!’” —June 27, 1844, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 618

“Whoso boasteth himself of a false gift is like clouds and wind without rain.” —Proverbs 25:14

1 posted on 06/28/2013 12:11:40 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Uh... he got worn out?


2 posted on 06/28/2013 12:12:04 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

looking for the golden newt?


3 posted on 06/28/2013 12:14:11 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: Colofornian

Frankly, I don’t give a damn. And I certainly won’t bother to read all the crap.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 12:15:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
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To: hadaclueonce; shibumi

I got better.


5 posted on 06/28/2013 12:18:34 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Colofornian

Asking why a murdered person “died so young”???


6 posted on 06/28/2013 12:19:51 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Colofornian

I think he made a lot of enemies introducing polygamy in to the faith and reportedly sleeping with underage girls.


7 posted on 06/28/2013 12:23:26 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Colofornian

Gunshot?


8 posted on 06/28/2013 12:23:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I want shrimp tacos.)
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To: Tax-chick

Gunshot? But he would’ve keeled over dead anyway real soon from basic exhaustion (27+ wives would wear out Superman).


9 posted on 06/28/2013 12:29:57 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Colofornian

Cause of death: “Flat tuckered”?


10 posted on 06/28/2013 12:31:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Colofornian

I know he was shot trying to escape jail, after he was charged with about fifty crimes, including murder .....oh yea and he killed people while trying to flee.


11 posted on 06/28/2013 12:33:12 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Colofornian

My mother-in-law took at least 10 years off of my life. How many MILs did he have?


12 posted on 06/28/2013 12:33:37 PM PDT by o-n-money
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“My mother-in-law took at least 10 years off of my life. How many MILs did he have?”


That’s a bit complicated, because in some cases he married the daughter AND the mother.


13 posted on 06/28/2013 12:40:44 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Colofornian

ok.....


14 posted on 06/28/2013 12:48:08 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: Tax-chick

MMmmmm shrimp tacos....


15 posted on 06/28/2013 12:51:20 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: VaRepublican

STD?


16 posted on 06/28/2013 12:52:02 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: svcw; All
(Well I do know that most prisoners shot -- with two loaded weapons in possession -- would not be deemed "martyr" status were they shot with said loaded weapons...especially while using one of them to fire back...but...leave it to Mormons to distort history on this one)

Since these weapons were smuggled into Joseph's possession earlier...makes one wonder why the question of the role of Joseph's guards in this haven't been delved into more in-depth.

For example...say you were such a "guard" in 1844...
And say, in some way, you became aware that a prisoner was smuggled loaded weapons...
And then say, that your cowardice as a guard got the best of you -- and you didn't want to PERSONALLY confront four prisoners in the same room with two known loaded weapons among them...
...What then might such a guard do?

Well, if he knew that Smith had been causing severe angst among regional community members...he might simply let them do the "dirty work" (of confronting armed prisoners) for him...

How he may have communicated that to such vigilantes is wide open to conjecture...

That could have been everything from "Hey, I'm taking a supper break from the 'cell/home' from this time to that time"...
...to "Hey, these prisoners are armed & I need armed assistance confronting them"...
...to ______________ (fill in the blank)

17 posted on 06/28/2013 12:54:23 PM PDT by Colofornian (West went South)
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To: VaRepublican

I know. Maybe this weekend.


18 posted on 06/28/2013 12:55:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I want shrimp tacos.)
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To: Colofornian
Joseph Smith is DEAD???!?


19 posted on 06/28/2013 12:55:49 PM PDT by Lazamataz (If illegal aliens voted (R), then the Dems would create the tightest border security in the world.)
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To: Colofornian

Ping to read later


20 posted on 06/28/2013 1:08:43 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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