Posted on 09/24/2013 1:43:25 PM PDT by Rashputin
CALVINISMS FALSE DOCTRINE
Posted on September 14, 2007 by Cathy
Calvinism is very popular and many Christians, though they would not identify themselves as Calvinists, may have embraced some of Calvins doctrine without realizing it. The doctrine is named after a man named John Calvin, a reformer, who lived in the 1500′s. Calvinism propagates error. Knowledge of error helps us to be discerning when listening to or reading Christian material. If a teacher is a Calvinist, all that they teach will be taught through the lens of Calvinism. The result of this Calvinistic bent will be teachings that are dangerously distorted.
This is just a simple outline of Calvinism . . .
T.U.L.I.P. is an acronym used by Calvinists to describe the main five points of Calvinism.
T stands for TOTAL DEPRAVITY This Calvin doctrine propagates the error that that man is so depraved and corrupt that he is not capable of making a choice to follow the Lord. It is taught that God is the one who predestines some to believe in Him and be born again, and predestines others not to believe in Him. The ones who are not predestined to believe will perish in hell. This doctrine denies free will. They say it doesnt, but it does.
SCRIPTURE CLEARLY TEACHES that an individual has the God given ability to choose:
Matthew 11:20 Then began he (Jesus) to UPBRAID the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
(UPBRAID Find fault with, or reproach severely. dictionary.com)
Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, but YOU WERE NOT WILLING! (NKJV)
Romans 1:18-20 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, FOR GOD HAS SHOWN IT TO THEM. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE, (NKJV)
U stands for UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION This Calvin doctrine propagates the error that some individuals are elected/chosen to salvation, and some are not. It is taught that Gods choices are unconditional.
SCRIPTURE CLEARLY TEACHES that Christ is the chosen, Christ is the elect. When we believe the gospel we are then called chosen and elect because we are in Christ. Its not about us, its about Christ.
Matthew 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have CHOSEN; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
Luke 23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the CHOSEN of God.
Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine ELECT, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
L stands for LIMITED ATONEMENT This Calvin doctrine propagates the error that Christs atoning work on the cross was only for certain individuals.
SCRIPTURE CLEARLY TEACHES that Christs atonement is available to all people.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Luke 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to ALL people.
Luke 2:31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of ALL people;
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the water of life freely.
I stands for IRRESISTIBLE GRACE This Calvin doctrine propagates the error that when God calls a person to salvation, that person cannot resist Gods call.
SCRIPTURE CLEARLY TEACHES that it is possible to resist the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 11:20 Then began he (Jesus) to UPBRAID the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not:
(UPBRAID Find fault with, or reproach severely. dictionary.com)
Luke 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, but YOU WERE NOT WILLING! (NKJV)
Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, YE DO ALWAYS RESIST THE HOLY GHOST: as your fathers did, so do ye.
P stands for PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS (also known as Once Saved Always Saved) This Calvin doctrine propagates the error that a person can never fall away from the faith.
SCRIPTURE CLEARLY TEACHES that it is possible to fall away from the faith.
John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YE CONTINUE in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
1 Timothy 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away CONCERNING FAITH HAVE MADE SHIPWRECK:
2 Timothy 4:7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have KEPT THE FAITH:
2 Peter 2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have KNOWN the way of righteousness, than, after they have KNOWN it, to TURN from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is TURNED to his own vomit again; and the sow that WAS WASHED to her wallowing in the mire.
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A Christian sister once said . . . the Lord draws, but we have the free will to respond, or not to respond, to that drawing. True. We are not robots. Also, with Calvinism, a person is left to wonder if they are one of Gods chosen ones. How can anyone ever have any peace wondering if they are one of Gods elect. Our peace comes from the atoning work of Christ on the cross. There is stability at the cross. There is nothing to wonder about. Jesus said whosoever will may freely receive salvation. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And WHOSOEVER WILL, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17 You can have peace and assurance that Christ is the chosen One, and when you believe in Him you are chosen in Him. This leaves the door to salvation open for all people, as God intended it to be, and as the scripture declares.
Believing truth, and continuing to do so, will give you peace because your assurance is firmly based upon Christs finished work of atonement. Understanding Calvinism helped me to understand that the doctrine of once saved always saved is a false doctrine. This was something I struggled with for many years. Why did it help me? Because I understood that the root of the once saved always saved teaching is Calvinisms doctrine irresistible grace. The two are obviously connected. Error begets more error. As we have seen, it is possible to resist the Holy Ghost, and what a serious thing it is to do so.
Calvinistic teaching superimposes itself upon Scripture. It is mans teaching, not Gods. I have written this because I love the Lord, and I love the brethren. False doctrine is harmful, and causes division among Gods people. My prayer is that we, the followers of Jesus Christ, will be guided into all truth. As the scripture says in John 16:13 . . . when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
We could simply copy and paste all the posts from the last 50 times this discussion took place on FR.
Your scriptural references are useful.
No it isn’t. This forum is for news, not a religious war.
This is the religion forum
WHAT A COINCIDENCE!
It’s a poorly structured argument anyway.
But since we're having "discussions worth having" today I thought I'd go through links from the past few years of researching and reading I did and post a few things worth discussing.
I sure hope this article isn't representative of the quality of material you've been "researching and reading" for the past few years.
***T.U.L.I.P. is an acronym used by Calvinists to describe the main five points of Calvinism. ***
Did Calvin come up with this or did it come about after he he had died, at the time of the Remonstrants who wanted the beliefs of Jacob Arminius.
Wasn’t TULIP the Calvinist answer to them?
No it isn't. It's just trolling for an argument that promotes disunity among the body of Christ. In this day and age, the less disunity we all have, the better.
A more worthwhile action is to study your bible, ALL of it, and largely ignore what other people claim to get out of it. If it's there, and you study frequently, you will find it. We must be like the Bereans, intelligent and studious, not mindless idiots who must be spoon-fed dogma of any flavor.
Too many people on FR are consumed with dividing the Christians. Why? What purpose does it stand? I grew up Calvinist and mos tof my family still are. They are going to heaven! I am no longer Calvinist but I am also going to heaven!
Quit letting the devil divide us! Quit spreading disention and animosity! That is not the Holy Spirit but the pride of man!
I object to this thread primarily because of the inflammatory title. I certainly do not object to the discussion.
Second, it is simplistic to reduce the doctrines propounded by John Calvin to the “TULIP” acronym. The reality is that those doctrines embodied by TULIP were documented in response to a divergence from sound doctrine long AFTER Calvin was dead by the Synod of Dordt held by Calvin’s followers. John Calvin espoused a wide range of doctrines well beyond TULIP. His life work, Institutes of the Christian Religion, begins with a dissertation on the subject of personal piety. Calvin moved his description of election to later sections of the Institutes in order to allay such objections.
Third, the arguments proposed in this post are also simplistic with no regard for alternative views. For instance, reading Ephesians 1:4 it is quite plain that it is “us” who are chosen “from the foundation of the world”. Of course Christ had been chosen, but, as stated in Eph 1:4, so are we!
Clearly Calvin, and those of us from the Reformed tradition, believe that God’s offer of the Gospel; i.e., Good News, is to be delivered to ALL people. However, as much as one doesn’t like the implications of Ephesians 1:4 (and a host of others) some folks will simply not respond because, in the end, they were not chosen by God.
The point of the doctrine is two-fold: First, salvation is the work of God, not ourselves “lest any man should boast!” Second, it is intended for assurance of salvation so that those who follow Christ can be confident that He who chose us will hold us in His hand until our final deliverance is secured.
I don’t know but as long as going at Catholics hammer and tong is an essential activity shouldn’t the alternatives be enumerated and discussed?
“Its a discussion worth having. “
...with God. Only God knows whether Calvinism is correct or whether Mary was a perpetual virgin and other similar Catholic vs Protestant debates. No one here knows. If they claim to know - run away from them.
Go have your religious wars somewhere else.
bleeeech.... There is so much distortion in this piece I won’t even bother
The Calvinist were also enthusiastically beheading Anabaptists and Catholics at the same time the former were minding their own business and the later were fighting off the invasion of the Muslim hordes invading southeasten Europe.
It was the Anabaptists who are largely responsible for bringing the tradition of religious freedom to America, not the Calvinistic Protestants.
It was the Catholics who were largely responsible for protecting Europe from the invading Muslim hordes, not the Calvinists.
So, on one hand, I don't mind seeing them get their come-uppance from a Calvinist trashing thread. But, on the other, I will observe that they are one of the most conservative voting Christian groups in America and it is unproductive and undesirable to form circular firing squads.
Oh, the horror!!
lol exactly... or the 100 times this debate took place in my college dormitory... move on people!
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