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Has the Pope Taken His First Steps into Last Days Apostasy?
American Prophet ^ | September 24, 2013 | Rev. Michael Bresciani

Posted on 09/25/2013 8:27:57 PM PDT by WXRGina

Reuters and other news agencies are reporting that the Pope has capitulated on several issues such as homosexuality, abortion and contraception.

The Pope’s remarks were taken from a 12,000 word interview with the Jesuit periodical, Civilta Cattolica, (Catholic Civilization) the most prominent statement reaching news agencies is his declaration that the church needs to shake off its obsession with abortion and homosexuality.

The Pope has pleased the liberal factions of the Catholic Church and sickened and worried the conservative members of the church.

Few have reported on the prophetic implications of the Pope’s remarks and with some exceptions, such as those made by Evangelist Bill Keller, most protestant news outlets remain free of op-eds or theological treatment of the Pope’s interview, at the moment.

Biblical Theology and Catholic Teachings – Always at Odds

Hundreds of traditional or patristic teachings of Catholicism are either in direct conflict with the bible or do not exist in the scriptures at all.

The list of theological discrepancies has been addressed repeatedly for centuries and there would be little room to cover them all in one short article.

What we must point out is that on two very important levels, those who stand on scripture can’t ever recognize the authority of the Pope – it has never been a matter of whether they like him or not, nor is it a matter of personal choosing.

First, Because of the Greek rendering of Matthew 16: 18, “That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” Protestants believe that Christ was referring to himself as the Rock, not Peter. This is supported by other scriptural passages, to wit:

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.” (Mt 16: 18b)

Secondly, not one word in the bible speaks of ‘apostolic succession.’ It is a concoction of the Roman church, not a biblical teaching. It is very difficult even to support the teaching in view of the fact that there was no Catholic church for over 300 years after Christ came into the world. Most Catholics are totally unaware of this fact. They have been told they are the ‘first church,’ but true history betrays them.

​ Simply because these facts cannot keep the childlike faith of any Catholic from reaching the Savior does not justify or verify the truth of Catholicism’s origins. It is simply a matter of Catholics being saved or redeemed not because of their religion – but in spite of it!

The Real and Present Danger in the Discrepancies between the Papacy and the Bible

Gentle, but firm, is the only way to approach addressing the errors of Catholicism at the same time knowing that millions of Catholics are of the family of faith simply because Jesus said “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.” (Jn 6: 37)

Yet, it is more than an item of curiosity or some minor theological difference; it is a dire sense of urgency and concern, especially in the last days, that causes anyone who knows scripture to make fair warning.

I have repeated this warning so often that I think my publishers may think I’ve run out of new things to say. I’ll take that chance, as opposed to risking a confrontation with my Savior for not making it as abundantly clear as possible, while there is still time.

What warning you ask!

Any religion, Catholic or other, that derives its ultimate authority from a man is subject to heresy, apostasy and error depending on the personality, the current state of mind or the evolvement of personal ideologies in that man.

Faith based solely on the scriptures, the written accounts of Christ’s teaching and his Apostles and biblical prophets cannot be altered, changed or disputed until the very last day of time. God intended this; it is his way of grounding us on a rock instead of the sinking sands of a changing and unstable world, to wit:

Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.” (Mt 7: 24, 25)

Christ relegated his authority to his Apostles and their teachings too are on the same level as his. They were not mere scribes or interpreters of his will they were Holy Spirit inspired and authorized to speak as final authorities.

He that heareth you heareth me; and he that despiseth you despiseth me; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.” (Lk 10: 16)

Finally, since we will not be judged by what other men say – why would we waste time or risk being found in total error. Why not go to the source of truth and take Christ’s warning seriously?

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.” (Jn 12: 48)

So what did the Apostles really say about abortion, homosexuality and issues of the day?

The prophetic part of the bible contradicts the Pope’s assertion that believers are obsessed with homosexuality and abortion. In fact it warns that in the last days it is possession (demonic) that will fuel the slide into apostasy the world over.

Political correctness, floundering Pontiff’s and general acceptance of everything the bible condemns, is proof immutable, that the NWO, apostasy and the emergence of the Antichrist are well on track for the very near future. ‘Just don’t talk about it’ is the advice of fools. If the only choices are between obsession and possession it’s pretty much a no brainer.

Not only is homosexuality referred to as an abomination, to be noted, rebuked and refused as part of the church, but immoral behaviors were cause for people to be put out of the church and not allowed back in until they had fully repented. (1Co 5: 1-7) Should the perversion of same sex acts and marriage be an exception?

The idea of the Pope suggesting that we are over-talking the subject of abortions reaches to the heights of apostasy. The only voices the over two hundred million aborted babies worldwide have - is ours. Telling us to be silent is the moral equivalent of blasphemy.

After the Sandy Hook massacre of innocent children the liberals went after guns with a vengeance. Doesn’t it seem hypocritical that after 60,000,000 abortions in the U.S. and 160,000,000 abortions worldwide that telling us to pipe down is the only thing the Pope can think of to say? We will never be silent, or to borrow a phrase, you can pry my anti-abortion argument from my cold dead lips, but no other way.

The Folly of Following the Fallen

Has the Pope taken his first steps into the last day’s (apostasy) falling away? We can only hope he has not, but if this is the beginning of it, it is also the end of everything as we have known it.

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” (2 Th 2: 3)


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: apostasy; christians; lastdays; popefrancis; prophecy
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To: WXRGina

Thanks for the ping. Great article!


161 posted on 09/26/2013 5:35:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Religion Moderator

Uh-oh. Is it time to suit up and get my sway-back Rusty out of his stall? I’m feeling the audience getting antsy here...


162 posted on 09/26/2013 5:39:45 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: xzins; Religion Moderator

Yes, the Religion Moderator is a very patient, even-handed person. And, although you’ve been here longer than me, I am still able to read the religion forum guidelines just as anyone else can.

Nevertheless, there is no real reason to avoid legitimate, respectful critiques of catholic doctrine simply because some catholics become enraged by them. Instead of becoming enraged (flaming) and accusing anyone of “bashing” who dares to politely question their beliefs, perhaps they could take a hard, honest look at what they’ve been taught and compare it to the Word of God. While I understand that people have perverted the meaning of Scripture for their own purposes, it still remains that many, many catholics have honestly examined the Bible in light of their catholic beliefs and have turned away from catholicism.


163 posted on 09/26/2013 5:57:45 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: CynicalBear

You’re welcome! :-)


164 posted on 09/26/2013 5:59:11 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

Only of Catholic doctrine?

Why don’t you put up a thread about something with your own church?


165 posted on 09/26/2013 5:59:39 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: WXRGina; Religion Moderator

Are Baptists actually the minions the AntiChrist will use to rule the world?


166 posted on 09/26/2013 6:02:27 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

What a joke.

I am so tired of the protestant bashing


167 posted on 09/26/2013 6:04:48 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Salvation

I don’t have a church. I’m simply a Bible-believing Christian, just a part of the body of Christ.

There’s really no need for you to be defensive (or offensive, whichever the case may be). My presenting counterpoints to catholicism is in no way a threat to you.


168 posted on 09/26/2013 6:06:44 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: xzins; Religion Moderator

What’s your point? I must be missing it.


169 posted on 09/26/2013 6:07:17 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: GeronL; Religion Moderator

It was a joke....at least hyperbole...to make a point. If you’d followed my comments, you’d understand I was attempting a parallel title to the title of this thread.

It obviously roiled your blood, so I must be on to something.


170 posted on 09/26/2013 6:07:46 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: WXRGina

see 167 and 170


171 posted on 09/26/2013 6:08:40 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins; WXRGina

Oh those Baptists are always up to no good. I’ve heard that ever since they stormed the southern borders we have had nothing but trouble, TROUBLE, from them. It’s all those covered dish dinners on the grounds they foist on the unsuspecting. And those green bean casseroles? Forget about it. It’s a plot to overthrow the cream corn growers. Seems they’re *tired* of picking cream corn. I think they’re just lazy and don’t want to get their creamy whites dirty. They’d rather let the government subsidize their lifestyles. Pray to Saint Dunk’em that he will intercede and drive these miscreants from the land. We can get back to the REAL business of wafer production.


172 posted on 09/26/2013 6:11:49 PM PDT by smvoice (The 2 greatest days of your life: the day you're born. And the day you discover why.)
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To: xzins

Oh, I see. Kind of an off parallel, but I get it.


173 posted on 09/26/2013 6:14:14 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: smvoice

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Thank you for the much-needed levity! :-)


174 posted on 09/26/2013 6:15:32 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Salvation; Brian Kopp DPM; Alamo-Girl; smvoice
>> If you are wondering where the English term originates from, it is an Old English word that was used in literature (including some Charles Dickens novels) that refers to being carried away.<<

Old English ey? Let’s see where it really comes from.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

harpagēsometha ἁρπαγησόμεθα will be caught away [http://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_thessalonians/4-17.htm]

The root word is harpazó: to seize, catch up, snatch away [http://biblesuite.com/strongs/greek/726.htm]

Guise what the Catholics translated that word in Latin to?

The Latin Vulgate translates the Greek ἁρπαγησόμεθα as rapiemur,[16] from the verb rapio meaning "to catch up" or "take away".

1 Thessalonians 4:17. deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus (Latin Vulgate).

Thus from “rapiemur” we get the English word rapture.

So it’s actually the RCC that gave us the word rapture. Isn't that interesting?

Often it’s better to study before posting.

175 posted on 09/26/2013 6:17:56 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: GeronL

Well, I didn’t want to say that (trying to be nice here), but his fake “headline” had no relation to this headline (where was anti-Christ mentioned?).


179 posted on 09/26/2013 6:28:37 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: jodyel
Amen, Amen and Amen! God never once subjected true, faithful believers to His wrath. Those who think true, faithful believers will experience the wrath of God during the tribulation are denying His word.
180 posted on 09/26/2013 6:30:35 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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