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Source: Pope Francis Likely to Offer 'Clarification' to Distance Himself from 'Liberation Theology'
Breitbart - Big Peace ^ | December 5, 2013 | Michael Patrick Leahy

Posted on 12/05/2013 9:46:31 AM PST by don-o

A source familiar with the inner workings of the Vatican told Breitbart News on Monday that Pope Francis is likely to offer a "clarification" of his comments on economics contained in his apostolic exhortation released on November 24, Evangelii Guadium (in English, "The Joy of the Gospel"). Though the timing of such a "clarification" is uncertain, it is likely to come in the form of a speech to a group rather than in a formal papal document.

The source told Breitbart News that key figures at the Vatican are already discussing the problems caused by the document's confused and inconsistent forays into economic policy. As Breitbart News has reported, the use of language consistent with Latin American "liberation theology" in that document has had a significant impact on the political dialogue in the United States over the past ten days.

The left has grabbed several passages from the document and described them as a rejection of free market economics and an endorsement of the statist redistributive policies of the Obama administration. Some on the left have used the Pope's word as a justification for the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Among prominent conservatives, Rush Limbaugh has criticized the Pope for appearing to embrace "liberation theology." Many conservatives are wondering why the pope decided to venture beyond the realm of the Gospel into the arena of political and economic theory in the first place.

Defenders of the Pope have pointed out that economics, though it received almost all of the press coverage, was a small part of the document, most of which focused on a new call to evangelization. They portray him not as a "liberation theologist," but a rather as more of a "right wing Peronist" from Argentina

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Jesuits were extreme leftists when I was a freshman at a Jesuit High school in 1967. I remember one Jesuit priest who might have been a conservative, but he has been dead for a long time.


41 posted on 12/05/2013 10:38:08 AM PST by forgotten man
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To: Salvation; Allison_Wonderland
Time for Confession for you?

Getting a little personal, huh? How do you know the last time anyone went to Confessions, let alone tell them it's time to go?

42 posted on 12/05/2013 10:39:26 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: cotton1706

That is my understanding of THE WORD.


43 posted on 12/05/2013 10:39:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: don-o

When the Pope stars talking about “chickens coming home to roost” you know that the chickens are coming home to roost.


45 posted on 12/05/2013 10:43:41 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I attended a Jesuit university decades ago and the Jesuits were worldly and rather left-leaning even back in those days. Their left-wing views are not a recent development, sorry to say.


46 posted on 12/05/2013 10:43:51 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: steve86
Please show the reference in the Bible that states that henceforth only references in the Bible are admissible.

So you're still having trouble with the Sola Scriptura thing? Well what else have we to reliably go by? Your churchs traditions? They have been proven to be unreliable. What did Jesus practice? When confronted by the devil himself, He fought back with "It is written . . . " and defeated him. What does the Word of God say? 2Tim. 3:16,17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness; that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished into all good works".

47 posted on 12/05/2013 10:50:14 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Ge0ffrey; dangus

Ge0ffrey, I know few on this thread bothered with reading through the article posted, but your question was answered in the column.

I know, dangus, my friend, there is truly a translation problem to be tackled, according to Father Z., but never mind, Obama is flogging it and the anti Catholics are enjoying a field day all based on a new pope’s naivety and convenient flaws in translation. ;!


48 posted on 12/05/2013 10:52:25 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Allison_Wonderland
Rush Limbaugh is not the only one who thinks this way. I am a Catholic and I am getting increasingly agitated about the types of bishops and cardinals who are embracing politics in terms of “social justice

I'm so bothered by our priest & his Hispanic issues that it's become best for me not to participate in the church things. I'll take my issues straight to the heavens & avoid the middleman.

49 posted on 12/05/2013 10:52:48 AM PST by Digger
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To: what's up

If you claim the name of Christ yet vote for socialism (ie, Democrats),
what you’re doing is trying to transfer your personal,
individual obligation to care for the widows and orphans
onto the collective so that you won’t have to make any personal sacrifice to do so.


50 posted on 12/05/2013 10:57:16 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: dangus

He said what he said, it is clear.

Why does he need to explain it?

Now if he gets and says ‘the translation is wrong and here is what I really said’ that is not the same as explaining it.

When people start explaining what they said “because people didn’t get it’, not much different than saying ‘you are to ignorant to understand me.’


51 posted on 12/05/2013 11:02:45 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: don-o; Texas Eagle
Thanks for posting this article. Boy, do the pronouncements of Pope Francis cause weeping and gnashing of teeth, or what? The Left, who despises religion and particularly Catholicism, is instantly ready to claim Pope Francis as their own 'saint' at the slightest whiff of his words seeming to endorse their socialism. And the religious right, who loves God and faith, is almost as ready to throw him under the bus when his words disappoint and seem to be affirming 'American liberal' phrasology. Pope Francis is no marxist.

As Pope, he is certainly following in the footsteps of Christ as a sign which shall be contradicted.

I fully expect that he will clarify his words to specifically condemn the economic systems of socialism/marxism and the awful record of how those system(s) condemn 'the poor' to chronic stifling poverty and loss of personal freedom and dignity at the same time.

Rush Limbaugh did qualify his initial reaction ... Shortly after making the aforementioned comments, Rush said that he was being inundated with e-mails from Catholics who said that the WaPo took Pope Francis's words out of context and Rush ended the segment by saying something along the lines of, "I don't know what to believe" or something along those lines. (hat tip: FReeper TexasEagle)

George Weigel writes at the WSJ (sorry, subscription only)Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of The Gospel) is "a clarion call for a decisive shift in the Catholic Church's self-understanding, in full continuity with the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, Paul VI, John Paul II and Benedict XVI." However, it has unfortunately been subjected to being "celebrated, or lamented, as if it were an Occupy Whatever position paper for a G-8 summit."

I think that time and further 'clarifying' remarks from the Pontiff will clear things up ... he alluded to such already in the apostolic exhortation itself ...

If anyone feels offended by my words, I would respond that I speak them with affection and with the best of intentions, quite apart from any personal interest or political ideology. My words are not those of a foe or an opponent. I am interested only in helping those who are in thrall to an individualistic, indifferent and self-centred mentality to be freed from those unworthy chains and to attain a way of living and thinking which is more humane, noble and fruitful, and which will bring dignity to their presence on this earth. [208]

52 posted on 12/05/2013 11:06:58 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: don-o

The leftists like this Pope...

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3098581/posts


53 posted on 12/05/2013 11:07:22 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: NYer; Salvation

ping for reaction, additional comments.


54 posted on 12/05/2013 11:08:10 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: MrB
Yes, and the irony is that the widows and orphans really don't get cared for in the long run because they don't need the care of bureaucrats; what they really need is the personal touch from individuals and communities.

It's very tragic.

55 posted on 12/05/2013 11:09:00 AM PST by what's up
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To: C19fan

a “right wing Peronist” is still a socialist


56 posted on 12/05/2013 11:12:40 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ScottinVA

I know. Cardinal Dolan has not been helpful, in far more cases than he has been helpful.

I’m just going to say it—many of these older and high ranking bishops seem to have fallen victim of a damn poor education themselves, along with most Americans subjected to socialist curriculum decades ago.

JPII was a gift. He knew communism, he was more devoutly educated, articulate, unafraid, and knew the Western mind, capitalism (warts included), and offended few, but for the Left.

I simply believe dear Pope Francis never had the same intellectual advantages of JPII, but was raised in a narrower universe of poverty, living among and serving the extremely impoverished, ministering under Leftist propaganda and even corrupt regimes who who were into wealth and power at the expense of the people.

(My theory anyway.) :/


57 posted on 12/05/2013 11:16:13 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: dangus
Click the link:) https://twitter.com/papalwindow/status/408665928285429760/photo/1 User Actions Following The Papal Window ‏@papalwindow "I said what?!" pic.twitter.com/TFM4q1Mqlu
58 posted on 12/05/2013 11:16:14 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: svcw
When people start explaining what they said “because people didn’t get it’, not much different than saying ‘you are to ignorant to understand me.’

Or it could mean, "I didn't know what the heck I was talking about, and I still don't, but here's what my more orthodox handlers are telling me what I really "meant" to say.

59 posted on 12/05/2013 11:17:55 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: don-o
He wrote this in Argentine Spanish right? Ask a Spanish speaker.

It still comes out with socialist leanings.

This isn't new. The Catholic church has a very old worldview in economics that today is more toward what we would call “Socialist” than “Capitalist”, but honestly it isn't the same thing.

Remember, it wasn't that long ago that usury was a mortal sin.

60 posted on 12/05/2013 11:19:59 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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