The EITHER/OR of "It's EITHER Calvinism OR Arminianism" has proven useless

12/12/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

[Thus Spake Zarathustra]

A college try, but I presume you really have not read Calvinist theology thoroughly. But more importantly is you claim God choose from an infinite number of possible universes. Is this true? Or, did God create the only possible world? Modern philosophers debated this question at length. You may want to research this question and then reconsider you propositions.

[Alex Murphy]

Did God provide for the salvation of sinners that he chose to be saved, or did God provide a way of salvation and then it is up to sinners to choose it? Wrong question that has been asked...

The question that SHOULD be asked: Did God know which choice we would make (as to salvation) when He created this universe and bring into existence that choice to be saved, or did He bring into existence His choice for whom He would save when He brought this universe into existence?

What level of sobriety were you at when you wrote this?

[StormPrepper]

God provide a way of salvation and then it is up to sinners to choose it?

This is the perfect question. It is no more complicated than that. God provided the plan of salvation and all we have to do is follow it.

[freedumb2003]

>>Calvinists should stop squandering their lives dealing with mediocre conservatives and form a radical vanguard of true believers!<<

Maybe it already happened...;)

[freedumb2003]

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What level of sobriety were you at when you wrote this?<<

OK, that there is just funny no matter what you think theologically...

[Spirit-striven]

Hi, just read this thread from Two Years ago, and liked your comments.

I,too, must be among the unchosen throngs who, sadly, keep on trucking on, wrestling with things unseen, not of the flesh, striving with God as He strives with me...all the while I’m damned . Damned if I do, damned if I don’t. Kinda reminds me of what Paul said, that if there is no resurrection then Christians are the most pitied of all.