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Does A Parallel Spirit World Exist
TRC Magazine Facebook Page ^ | 2/5/14 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 02/05/2014 10:05:03 AM PST by OneVike

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Many who have had Near Death Experience have testified that when they died, they shed their bodies “like taking off a glove” and suddenly felt they were experiencing “the real reality.” Many describe exactly the same experience, in that all colors, sounds, sights, shapes, and textures were thousands of times more sharp and clear. They were aware of truths, facts, and orientations simply because “they knew them.” They describe it as suddenly being transported into actual reality after a lifetime of being in a two dimensional world.


21 posted on 02/05/2014 10:53:27 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: metmom

True, but we know that one day they will be.

As all of us will when we bow down and confess He is Lord.

For us it will be a great day, for them a very bad day if they do not confess before they leave this world.


22 posted on 02/05/2014 10:53:32 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: SkyPilot; metmom

Yes, I am fascinated by those near death experiences, although I think of them differently than they are explained away by secularist Drs.

The great apostle Paul wrote about a time he was transformed to another world and saw visions. We Christians know he where he was. Some even postulate that he had actually almost died when he was stoned, and that is when he had the vision.

I guess you could argue that he may have had a near death experience.


23 posted on 02/05/2014 10:59:12 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: I want the USA back

“Alternative/parallel” universes are one of the ways “scientists” are trying to explain the impossibility of “abiogenesis,” life magically springing from lifeless chemicals. It’s obvious that this is laughably impossible no matter how many billions of years they claim. But they figure that if there’s billions of years on billions of parallel earths, THAT’S the ticket! LOL!


24 posted on 02/05/2014 11:10:49 AM PST by afsnco
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To: Telepathic Intruder
A slightly more philosophical version of the Buckaroo Bonzai script.

There are an infinite number of things we will discover when we reach our final exit from this spot. Speculation and science chasing just a few of those things we will discover is just that.

Some things you just have to accept on faith and accept them as they happen. As for when and where, that's not my call. They are coming my way and as I age, I recognize it.

25 posted on 02/05/2014 11:13:20 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: OneVike

For some reason I’m connecting in my mind with Carl Seagan dialogues, a bible, and peyote.


26 posted on 02/05/2014 11:17:09 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Science is not exactly chasing the idea of a spiritual realm. More like running away from it. There is a certain degree of peer pressure among modern scientists to ignore and even scoff at the idea of a higher existance. It has nothing to do with the scientific method itself, however. People like Richard Dawkins who attempt to use science to “disprove” God are really abusing the scientific principals they claim to follow. They make an absolute statement that there is no God even though they have zero empirical data to show it.


27 posted on 02/05/2014 11:19:37 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: OneVike

The idea of parallel dimensions are still hypothetical. M-Theory and the brane world concepts suggest that our universe is just one “membrane” in a larger universe, but those theories as yet have no supporting evidence.


28 posted on 02/05/2014 11:27:42 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Now that was cool. I didn’t even know there was an HTML command for ‘fade’.


29 posted on 02/05/2014 12:58:40 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: metmom

Great post. I’m one of those who ‘knows’.


30 posted on 02/05/2014 1:00:23 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

There isn’t. I just changed the font color several times. The thought somehow occurred to me.


31 posted on 02/05/2014 1:29:28 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
There isn’t. I just changed the font color several times.

Wow. That had to be a lot of work. Cool effect, though.

32 posted on 02/05/2014 1:59:36 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: metmom

“If it can’t bee seen, felt, or measured, it’s not *real*.”

which is exactly why psychology is not viewed as a science by so many “scientists.”

Interesting thing though, psychology (except for neurospsychology or biologicalpsychology) is studied by watching and testing, asking questions, or reading the writings of the person being studied. Just like people get to know God, who has a personality and we get to know Him the same way we know other people.


33 posted on 02/05/2014 2:08:23 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Telepathic Intruder

However, this other realm (which is the highlight of Daniel Chapter Five) is one of some variable expression of time and of space, else things would not exist and events would not occur.


34 posted on 02/05/2014 2:09:02 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: OneVike

well, it is important to differentiate ‘parallel’ realms from Heaven. Jesus stepped out of our spacetime and into an alternate one when He left the tomb without rolling away the stone. He stepped from this realm into the realm of the Apostles in the Upper Room, etc. But He had not yet ascended to Heaven, which came later.


35 posted on 02/05/2014 2:11:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: OneVike
I've been watching yt videos of NDE's and most of them don't confess Jesus Christ as near as I can tell. So I tell myself to beware. Even though people insist you don't have to worry about "religion".

Paul said it was not lawful to say what he had seen in the third heaven. These people come back and tell all and write books and it's all very impressive. In the end it's up to God

When I was really young, like 5 to 7 years, I imagined I was in a universe that intermeshed with another one, like material in that universe couldn't be seen but went right through me. I wasn't taught anything like that, all I knew about religion was the bible lesson in Sunday school.

Mary Baker Eddy believed like the above; I think she carried it to the point that everything in our universe is an illusion. Well, I don't believe that. Matter is real except it is partly an illusion unless you understand the science of it (which I do as thru a glass darkly, protons, neutrons, electrons but not quarks).

I would say St. Paul had the same thing as a NDE "caught up". That means he was acted upon by external spiritual force(s). However we don't know who may be deceived in these things. My faith tells me St. Paul was not deceived.

Some lady was on C2C last night I think it was and claims there are infinite parallel universes (possible) and that our "oversoul" experiences all different things simultaneously (I don't believe that) but it's a choice. I won't know until it's too late for sure but I'm wary of anyone who introduces heterodoxy into the basic gospel of Christ.

36 posted on 02/05/2014 2:21:24 PM PST by Aliska
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To: MHGinTN

And there are the Christophanies to consider ...


37 posted on 02/05/2014 3:54:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: OneVike

Paul testified that whether in the body, or out of the body, he couldn’t tell. Yet he certainly had visions.

The near death experiences commonly talked about, often refer to separation from the body. Oxygen depletion causes hypoxia and euphoria (sense of well being). I won’t deny people have experienced visions, but you are not dead.....until the blood is ‘dead’. When the blood is dead, the damage to the rest of the body is irreversible, imo.


38 posted on 02/05/2014 7:42:29 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: OneVike

“It” exists, and is seen/manifested by Virtue (the highest, in the Word became flesh and dwelt among us); From the unseen (motive) is manifest in the ACTS of virtue: giving expecting nothing in return, peace/peacemakers, long-suffering, joy, honesty, humility, giving beyond self-preservation. The motive arising from the purity of operation of the yeilding willing “heart”...the bridge from the unseen dimension. The “heart” is the connection from the unseen.

in opposition “He hath scattered the proud in the IMAGINATION of their hearts.” e.g Luke 1:51 The unseen...
the base envy, strife, the jealousy “ARISEN” of Genesis 4:9 in the unseen base became manifest in the e.g. death of Abel. Covenant breakers, liars/false witness, betrayal....

The unseen vritue is manfested visibly in the act.


39 posted on 02/05/2014 9:11:55 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: metmom

So very true, dear sister in Christ!


40 posted on 02/05/2014 9:35:54 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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