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1 posted on 02/26/2014 10:42:52 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Punish college professors for religious speech in private conversations?


2 posted on 02/26/2014 10:44:02 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: marshmallow

He told these people they were moving to Detroit?


3 posted on 02/26/2014 10:47:17 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: marshmallow

While I disagree with the professor’s statement, he certainly should have the right to express his views in private conversations. It sounds like there is something wrong with this report?


4 posted on 02/26/2014 10:47:54 AM PST by faithhopecharity (" uri)
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To: marshmallow

Then all the members of the “religion of peace” have to be fired.


6 posted on 02/26/2014 10:50:24 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: marshmallow

A Godless America will not survive, period. By Godless I do not mean Allah, or Mohammed.

If you don’t conduct your national affairs according to the bible, you’ll die by the scimitar.. My humble opinion.


7 posted on 02/26/2014 10:51:51 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: marshmallow

The proliferation of godless Marxist speech emanating from our universities and public institutions makes me VERY uncomfortable.


8 posted on 02/26/2014 10:52:45 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: marshmallow

Start quoting sura passages and shouting “all-ha be pressed” in the halls then.


9 posted on 02/26/2014 10:52:50 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: marshmallow
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

So this professor violated the 2nd amendment how?

10 posted on 02/26/2014 10:56:09 AM PST by tractorman (I never miss a chance to tweak a liberal.)
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To: marshmallow

The problem as I see it is the liberal establishment treats Christians as if the role of God in their lives is some sort of hobby to be trotted out only on Sundays and maybe at Christmas.

Religion, belief in God, is not a hobby...but a lifestyle choice that informs every aspect of our lives.

Quite frankly, it is the college that has violated the professors God given Right to religion and ...speech. Our very lives are a testimony to the saving power of Jesus Christ.


19 posted on 02/26/2014 11:21:05 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: marshmallow

If you don’t believe in hell, then you shouldn’t be bothered by being told you’re going there.


20 posted on 02/26/2014 11:24:28 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: marshmallow; All
The article is vague (intentionally?), but please note the following.

The Founding Nanny States did not intend for our Bill of Rights freedoms to be absolute. In fact, using 1st Amendment as example, Thomas Jefferson had indicated that that the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the states had reserved government power to reasonably regulate our Bill of Rights freedoms uniquely to themselves, regardless that they had made the 1st Amendment to prohibit such powers to Congress entirely.

“3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed (emphasis added); …” —Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798. http://tinyurl.com/oozoo http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/jeffken.asp
The Bill of Rights did not apply to the states (only to the feds) until the states ratified the 14th Amendment, obligating themselves to respect those rights. However ... John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, had officially clarified that that the amendment did not take away states' rights.
“The adoption of the proposed amendment will take from the States no rights (emphasis added) that belong to the States.” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of first column)

No right (emphasis added) reserved by the Constitution to the States should be impaired…” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See top half of 1st column)

“Do gentlemen say that by so legislating we would strike down the rights of the State? God forbid. I believe our dual system of government essential to our national existance.” —John Bingham, Appendix to the Congressional Globe. (See bottom half of third column)

So the states still have constitutional authority to reasonably limit our Bill of Rights protections which Jefferson had indicated. The courts must balance between 10A and 14A.

The problem concerting the professor in question is that he possibly rubbed people the wrong way concerning religious expression because article suggests that he thinks Bill of Rights freedoms are absolute.

22 posted on 02/26/2014 11:46:27 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: marshmallow
Dr. Payne made the statement that anyone who is not a Christian is going to hell.”

What is about unbelievers that gets them riled about being told they'll end up in a place they don't believe in?

Would they fire a professor for saying, "You'll end up in Oz?"

23 posted on 02/26/2014 12:07:47 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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