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Greyfriars Are Coming Home After a 500-Year-Long Exile [Oxford, UK]
The Oxford Times ^ | 5/17/14

Posted on 05/17/2014 7:16:36 PM PDT by marshmallow

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1 posted on 05/17/2014 7:16:36 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

While they were gone, the minarets moved in.


2 posted on 05/17/2014 7:18:09 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG
Yes, of course, this is why St Francis is famous.

St Francis of Assisi, a medieval saint famed for creating the Nativity scene.

Exactly which Oxford scholar wrote this brilliant little ditty?

3 posted on 05/17/2014 7:31:04 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: marshmallow

**What followed was a purge of catholic monks loyal to the Vatican and the order was forced to flee the country.**

So many Catholics died.


4 posted on 05/17/2014 7:35:32 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

They didn’t just fall over and die. They were murdered.


5 posted on 05/17/2014 7:37:29 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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6 posted on 05/17/2014 7:37:36 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: Robwin
I don't know. You'll have to tell me.

I was thinking of Gibbon saying there would be minarets over Oxford but for Charles Martel's victory at Poitiers.

7 posted on 05/17/2014 7:42:48 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: marshmallow

Shakespeare exonerated. Whew! That was close.


8 posted on 05/17/2014 8:00:14 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Lurker

You put it correctly.


9 posted on 05/17/2014 8:33:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow; NYer; zot; Salvation

I guess I ought to get a passport and airline ticket. This is the first I heard about my ‘going home.’


10 posted on 05/17/2014 8:43:06 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Robwin

I think he’s also the patron saint of petting zoos.


11 posted on 05/17/2014 9:04:33 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: marshmallow

Makes me think of the wonderful old Disney film “ Greyfriars Bobby: The True Story of a Dog”

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Scotland 1865. An old shepherd and his little Skye terrier go to Edinburgh. But when the shepherd dies of pneumonia, the dog remains faithful to his master, refuses to be adopted by anyone, and takes to sleeping on his master’s grave in the Greyfriars kirkyard, despite a caretaker with a “no dogs” rule. And when Bobby is taken up for being unlicensed, it’s up to the children of Edinburgh and the Lord Provost to decide what’s to be done.
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If you enjoy movies about dogs this is a must see.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054944/


12 posted on 05/18/2014 12:45:35 AM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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13 posted on 05/18/2014 12:53:04 AM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: marshmallow

I wonder why they wore gray habits instead of brown, as was typical for Franciscans in continental Europe and eventually America. Different costs of fabric?


14 posted on 05/18/2014 4:03:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you ever feel like getting another cat?)
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


15 posted on 05/18/2014 4:47:59 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: Tax-chick

St. Francis of Assisi dressed in a robe of rough or course gray wool. This is reputed to be that robe: https://pilgrimpace.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/2749263-robe_of_st_francis_assisi.jpg

Generally the Franciscan friars of the Order of Friars Minor (called the regular observance, abbreviated O.F.M.), the Order of Friars Minor Capuchin (called “Capuchins,” abbreviated O.F.M. Cap.), and the Order of Friars Minor Conventual (O.F.M. Conv.) wear brown today.

The “Greyfriars” name has fallen away - except in connection with England - because none of these three groups of Franciscans usually wear grey anymore. Generally the regular observance friars and the Capuchins wear brown and the Conventuals wear black (though occasionally the Conventuals wear gray).

Several of the new Franciscan groups, generally founded with a stricter observance of the older Franciscan rule wear gray (the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal and the Franciscans of the Immaculate).


16 posted on 05/18/2014 7:39:32 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for your ping # 10. Interesting.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 8:31:39 AM PDT by zot
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To: vladimir998

Thank you, very informative! The depictions of St. Francis in brown must simply reflect the American experience of Franciscans.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 8:39:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Do you ever feel like getting another cat?)
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To: Lurker

Well they were martyred.


19 posted on 05/18/2014 9:27:32 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: vladimir998

I have one book written by the founder of the Francisians of the Renewel, Father Benedict Grouchel, and it is called “The Cross at Ground Zero”.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 9:30:43 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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