Pope, Orthodox Patriarch Look to New Council at Nicea

Catholic Culture ^ | 5/30/14

[marshmallow]

Pope Francis and Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew I of Constantinople have agreed to plan for an ecumenical council to be held in Nicea in 2025, the AsiaNews service reports.

Patriarch Bartholomew revealed that he and the Roman Pontiff had “agreed to leave as a legacy to ourselves and our successors a gathering in Nicaea in 2025, to celebrate together, after 17 centuries, the first truly ecumenical synod, where the Creed was first promulgated.” The Council of Nicea, held in 325, brought together over 300 bishops and approved the formula of faith now known as the Nicene Creed.

[Biggirl]

Both Churches have a LOT MORE IN COMMON then what divides them. It was sinful human pride that drove the two apart.

[ebb tide]

So what “church” were you referring to? Can you not come out and specify it?

[ebb tide]

Both Churches have a LOT MORE IN COMMON then what divides them.

So does Satanism and Islam have a LOT MORE IN COMMON then what divides them. What's your point?

[Biggirl]

You just do not get it. Now on mental ignore because you simply want to pick an agument you cannot win.

[Biggirl]

Click and goodbye.

[ebb tide]

Click and Hello. I’m back on. Do you believe in EENS or not? Are you Catholic or not?

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

But the Churches have become even more doctrinally separated over time. There are many, many theological differences that would be as difficult to reconcile as some of the differences we have with Baptists, for example.

Add to that, most of the Orthodox seem to remain quite hostile to reboarding the barque.

[ebb tide]

What happened? You put me on “mental ignore” weeks ago.

Did you have a relapse?

[Claud]

The major theological differences on issues such as the nature of grace and the nature of The Holy Spirit cannot be resolved without absolute, total capitulation by one side or the other.

Not sure that's true as least as the filioque goes. I said earlier in this thread that, traditionally, when the Pope said the Creed in Greek he didn't insert the filioque.

The issue as I've seen it addressed revolves around the ultimate source of the Holy Spirit--and what does "proceed" mean in Greek vs. what does it mean in Latin. In Latin, procedere does not imply "proceed from as an ultimate source." So what we mean in the Latin Church by using the filioque is something akin to what the Greek Fathers said "from the Father through the Son".

Greek, as I understand it, is totally different. There "proceed" means as from an ultimate source, which has driven the objection to the filioque.

Perhaps the two sides could agree on a common definition of the procession of the Holy Spirit that overcomes the linguistic problem and respects the positions we've staked out.

AN ORTHODOX RESPONSE TO THE CLARIFICATION ON THE FILIOQUE

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

OK, this could be the biggest news in Christendom since 1054, and there is currently one googleable news article on this?

Plenty of other "news" in the headlines, though.

We are in a post-Christian age.

[Biggirl]

Rather, the forgiven, healed, and restored Bride of Christ, via His most holy blood shed on the Holy Cross.

[Biggirl]

John 17, that “that they will be one.”