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Christians expelled from site of the Last Supper
Catholic Culture ^ | June 10, 2014

Posted on 06/10/2014 3:24:12 PM PDT by NYer

Orthodox Jewish activists drove Christian pilgrims out of the Cenacle, the “upper room” revered as the site of the Last Supper, on June 9.

About 30 militants, including one member of the Israeli parliament, disrupted a prayer service being held by Christians. The building, which is also revered by Jews as the site of King David’s tomb, is owned by the Israeli government, and Christian services are ordinarily not permitted there.

Ownership of the building in Jerusalem has become a contentious issue in Israeli politics. Pope Francis was granted permission to celebrate Mass in the Cenacle, despite protests from some Orthodox Jews. Even before the papal visit, rumors had circulated in Jerusalem that the government of Israel was prepared to cede control of the building to the Vatican. Israeli government officials denied those rumors.

The building that houses the Cenacle and the tomb of David was once controlled by the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land. The Ottoman Empire evicted the Franciscans, and transformed the building into a mosque. The Franciscan Custody still hopes to regain at least administrative control of the Cenacle, as part of a long-overdue diplomatic accord between Israel and the Holy See, establishing the legal rights of the Church in the Holy Land.

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Clergymen attend a mass celebrated by Pope Francis (C) at the site known as the Cenacle, or Upper Room, bringing into sharp focus a decades-long debate over prayer rites at the site where Christians believe Jesus had his Last Supper on May 26, 2014 in Jerusalem's Old City. (AFP Photo / Pool / Jack Guez)

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1 posted on 06/10/2014 3:24:12 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/10/2014 3:24:28 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: NYer

lol

I can guarantee you with near 100% certainty that neither the last supper nor king david have anything to do with that spot.

I can’t believe people actually fall for this kind of tripe.


3 posted on 06/10/2014 3:30:33 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: NYer
I hope Netanyahu will swiftly denounce the actions of this group and apologize to Christians, but after I found out the "conservative" Israeli government is providing "free" abortions for all Israeli women, my opinion of them has gone downhill.

I can't imagine the reverse happening, and Jewish pilgrims being kicked out of Rome for simpy trying to have a prayer service at a historical Christian location.

Any of the "we must stand with Israel 100% of the time" crowd want to weigh in on this?

4 posted on 06/10/2014 3:31:23 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“I can guarantee you with near 100% certainty that neither the last supper nor king david have anything to do with that spot.”

No, you can’t.


5 posted on 06/10/2014 3:35:15 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Certainly not both, given the last supper was in a house of an observant Jew who would not have built his house in a graveyard.


6 posted on 06/10/2014 3:36:07 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: vladimir998

oh! then I got a piece of the cross to sell you!


7 posted on 06/10/2014 3:38:00 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: BillyBoy

Yes. Stop believing stuff out of the “Christian” Left.

The other side of this is the matter of the Vatican taking over Jewish holy sites.


8 posted on 06/10/2014 3:40:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: NYer

Not a Catholic service, as far as I can see, but a group of Christian pilgrims who prayed while visiting the upper room.

Also, it’s worth reading the article because the whole business is more complicated than it appears on the surface. The argument is more between the Ultra Orthodox Jews and the Israeli government than it is with the Christians.

On the other hand, I stick to my first reaction on seeing the headline, that this is dumb behavior on the part of the Jewish protestors. They are stirring up trouble with people who want to be their friends, and who are doing them no harm. Maybe they should worry a bit more about the Arab Palestinians.


9 posted on 06/10/2014 3:42:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I can guarantee you with near 100% certainty.

I think that would be an assurance, not a guarantee.

10 posted on 06/10/2014 3:44:14 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“oh! then I got a piece of the cross to sell you!’

Hey I’ve better than that. I have the lace to the sandal’s Jesus worn on the Via Dela Rosa, 4 teeth of St. Arbuthnot the Goofy, a brick from the home of Simon the Zelot and the coin that was found in the mouth of the fish.

My great, great, great, great, great 27 generations ago grandfather brought them back from Constantinople after the 4th Crusade where he personally slew 20 or 30 of those heretical Greek Orthodox monks who were hoarding them


11 posted on 06/10/2014 3:46:12 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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as part of a long-overdue diplomatic accord between Israel and the Holy See,

The first 3.5 years of which will go great...but watch out for the last 3.5 years of the "accord"...

12 posted on 06/10/2014 3:55:29 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Olog-hai

So you approve of this then?


13 posted on 06/10/2014 4:12:03 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; vladimir998
oh! then I got a piece of the cross to sell you!

Yeah, me too! ; )


14 posted on 06/10/2014 4:15:11 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: NYer

It is said that the original cenacle was the only building spared in Jerusalem during its destruction by Rome in 70AD.

This did not happen intentionally but accidentally.


15 posted on 06/10/2014 4:25:21 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Olog-hai

So Christians merely having a prayer service at a spot sacred to Christians constitutes “taking over” a Jewish holy site in your opinion?


16 posted on 06/10/2014 4:41:14 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Olog-hai
>> Stop believing stuff out of the “Christian” Left. <<

The article is by Catholic World News, not "Rev." Jesse Jackson.

But I suppose you'll argue that Catholic World News counts as the "Christian left" too.

17 posted on 06/10/2014 4:45:50 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: BillyBoy

Nobody believed that Fox News could go as far left as it did, until it happened.

And that attitude towards Israel you displayed only comes from the left.


18 posted on 06/10/2014 4:59:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Really, the “left” is mad that Israel is providing free abortions to all its citizens? Could have fooled me. There’s a reason why the liberal media here hasn’t given it any coverage here.


19 posted on 06/10/2014 5:03:28 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Approve of what? Getting the other side of the story?

Nobody’s denying that there are problematic so-called “ultra-Orthodox” minorities in Israel, who are even anti-Zionist despite living in Israel. But they aren’t being let run riot.


20 posted on 06/10/2014 5:03:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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