Say what?
The Spanish Council of Elvira (between 295 and 302) imposed celibacy upon the three higher orders of the clergy; bishops, priests, and deacons and the writing of Church fathers on the desirability of celibacy and the practice of it precedes even this.
Another interview, another damage control operation.
NOT TRUE.
Unless Pope what the pope “says”, comes from Vatican news, it’s NOT true.
Even the Russian Orthodox don't permit marriage AFTER a man becomes a priest. There must be a reason for that or why would it matter?
I thought RC Deacons could be married?
which was a local council. Yes, the church in Rome had a tradition of celibacy very early on. When I say Rome I don’t mean the whole western Church. In Ireland in the early days, there were married bishops. In the Orthodox Church they have married priests and celibate monks, the bishops are chosen from among the monks. I think theologically there should be no problem in changing the rules to conform to the Orthodox model —but the stumbling bloc appears to be more political.
Local council, and not binding. There were married priests for much longer than that. The concern was that many places the priesthood risked becoming hereditary, and the income and land becoming like a local baron’s. The celibacy rule was to try to keep the control of church land under bishops
Ping!
Sexual abuse rate according to the John Jay Report:
Priests 1-2%
Ministers 2-3%
Government school teachers 5-10%
Maybe school teachers should be allowed to marry.
"Sunday's edition of La Repubblica devotes its first three pages to an account of a conversation between Pope Francis and editor Eugenio Scalfari..."
My eyes darted up to the dateline to see if this wasn't October 2013. No. It's last week. Yikes!
He AGAIN gave an interview to this Scalfari guy who garbled the first one? Scalfari AGAIN did not digitally record it? Scalfari AGAIN did not take written notes? It's AGAIN full of ambiguous stuff which guarantees pain to the faithful, confusion to sincere inquirers, and -- should I dare say, plausible deniability?
I'm not drawing conclusions. I'm just watching, eyebrows climbing toward my hairline.
Wait………..I thought celibacy for priests was a voluntary thing. Don’t Catholics tell us that all the time here?
“Christian Priest”, oxymoron.
A Priest being attracted to a boy seems even worse that a Priest being attracted to a young girl.
They need to keep their hands off ALL the children, but being attracted to boys is even worse.
And NO I am not saying it would be ok if they only abused girls
“Pope Reportedly Promises “Solutions” to Priestly Celibacy”
What, is he going to start by allowing them to date? Instead of the 14 Stations of the Cross it’ll be the 4 bases?
[Stand back, I hear thunder...]
Rich’s Undeniable Truth of the Day: It’s dangerous to make judgments based on the memory of a ninety-year-old journalist. (It’s hazardous enough to take the word of the younger ones.)