Skip to comments.Jesus didnít care about being nice or tolerant
Posted on 07/16/2014 8:37:18 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
There is no shortage of heresies these days.
If you want to adopt some blasphemous, perverted, fun house mirror reflection of Christianity, you will find a veritable buffet of options. You can sift through all the variants and build your own little pet version of the Faith. Its Ice Cream Social Christianity: make your own sundae! (Or Sunday, as it were.)
And, of all the heretical choices, probably the most common and possibly the most damaging is what Ive come to call the Nice Doctrine.
The propagators of the Nice Doctrine can be seen and heard from anytime any Christian takes any bold stance on any cultural issue, or uses harsh language of any kind, or condemns any sinful act, or fights against evil with any force or conviction at all. As soon as he or she stands and says This is wrong, and I will not compromise, the heretics swoop in with their trusty mantras.
They insist that Jesus was a nice man, and that He never would have done anything to upset people. They say that He came down from Heaven to preach tolerance and acceptance, and He wouldnt have used words that might lead to hurt feelings. They confidently sermonize about a meek and mild Messiah who was born into this Earthly realm on a mission to spark a constructive dialogue.
(Excerpt) Read more at themattwalshblog.com ...
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” - Jesus
Nice = Foolish
Tolerant = Amicable towards Evil
They lie and know nothing about scripture or what Jesus actually said other than what they pull from other websites or hear from other people. Its annoying when I hear an atheist, liberal, spiritualist or a misguided believer talk about how Christians don’t live up to the words of Jesus when they themselves aren’t living up to the words of Jesus because what Jesus actually said as a whole is directly in conflict with today’s modern thinking and norms
I love the way people attribute sayings to Jesus as if they were his best friend when he was roaming the Earth.
Jesus of Nazareth - Hypocrisy of the Scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 23)
your video is gone
While it is true that Jesus kept some of his harshest words for the ‘Religious’ of his time people seem to see those words and ignore his words for sinners. Jesus could be pretty tough on his followers at times but also had many wonderful promises for them!
Yep, the next time Jesus gets here on earth, he’s “gonna be loaded for bear” and he’s gonna be killing a whole lot of people.
For some reason, I don’t think that’s the image that many people have of Jesus!
“Jesus didnt care about being nice or tolerant”
It is true that Jesus didn’t care about being nice, just look at how He berated the pharisees.
But was Jesus intolerant, which the title implies?
If you believe Jesus has infinite power to heal and save, it’s easy to conclude He has power to destroy, too.
He could’ve easily escalated from merely badgering the pharisees to outright destroying them, and with good reason.
Jesus could’ve done the same to P. Pilate and a whole bunch of other despicable characters, including satan himself.
But he didn’t.
So I’d say Jesus is not just tolerant, but maybe just too tolerant.
Which is the key for each and everyone of us sinners.
He not only tolerates, but He also forgives and saves.
Actually, the reason Jesus did not do the things you point out he could have done is not due to tolerance. It is because Jesus was born to be crucified and die; the final blood sacrifice to atone for the world's sins. The spirit of satan caused Pilate, et. al., to do what they did because satan thought that a humiliating, torturous murder would put an end to a Savior. God's purpose was kept secret throughout the ages to make sure it would happen. And of course Jesus died, was buried, and rose from the dead.
1 Cor ch 2 says in part: “Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.”
Jesus, unlike all the other prophets, simply did not have time during his earthly life to accumulate enough political power to wield violence in God’s name. Hence the “nice” image of Jesus
All the other prophets from Adam to Abraham to David to Moses, wielded the sword for God.
However when Jesus returns, He will return as a ruler and will wield massive power. And there will be violence, and there will be blood
“Jesus, unlike all the other prophets, simply did not have time during his earthly life to accumulate enough political power to wield violence in Gods name. Hence the nice image of Jesus”
No, Jesus was the Christ; the Messiah. God incarnate. Being God, He did not need ‘time’ to accrue political power from men - he possessed all the power necessary to do whatever He wanted, including the power to forgive sins.
I think it’s more to the point that Jesus, like Patrick Swayze in “Roadhouse”, was nice until it was time to not be nice.
Jesus told the apostles.
And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
I mostly agree with the thread but we need to remember three things.
That we will be judged the same way as we judge some one else.
Do unto others as we would have them do unto us, ( friends or foes )
And that Christians are not running this world, we are not even of this world.
I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
People who haven’t read the Bible are pretty sure that Jesus was a wimp.
Jesus acknowledges he did not have political power during his first coming
Luke 19:27 But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence.
Jesus will come back as King of mankind and destroy his enemies. He did not have political power of any kind, besides the support of the poor and oppressed in his first coming
Isaiah 35:4 Say to those with fearful hearts, Be strong, do not fear; your God will come, he will come with vengeance; with divine retribution he will come to save you.
Micah 15:5 I will execute vengeance in anger and fury on the heathen, such as they have not heard.
Revelation 19:11-21 describes the ultimate war with Christ, the conquering commander who judges and makes war with justice (v. 11). Its going to be bloody (v. 13) and gory. The birds will eat the flesh of all those who oppose Him (v. 17-18). He has no compassion upon His enemies, whom He will conquer completely and consign to a fiery lake of burning sulfur (v. 20).
1 Corinthians 15:24 [Jesus] will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power.
15:25 For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet.
I’m only saying that the reason Jesus didn’t have political power was because He didn’t want it; it would not have served His purpose as Redeemer.
“God’s purpose was kept secret throughout the ages to make sure it would happen.”
Yes! God played satan, pilate, and the pharisees to fulfil His purpose.
Jesus called people vipers, chased people out of a temple with a whip, and called out people for their hypocrisy. Jesus was out to do His Father’s will, not comfort people in their sins. He loves us so much that He doesn’t want us to be trapped in sin, so there’s no way He would tell people to accept sin.
(The auto-linker apparently happens after the plaintext-to-HTML translation occours, making the -- into a —.)
that is really a strange rendition
> that is really a strange rendition
Perhaps. I was just fixing the link, so you’d probably be better off commenting to the original poster.
“So Id say Jesus is not just tolerant, but maybe just too tolerant.
Which is the key for each and everyone of us sinners.
He not only tolerates, but He also forgives and saves.”
He had a plan from before the beginning, and what you see as tolerance was the fulfillment of a plan. He could have jumped from the temple roof too, and wiped out everyone that opposed Him, but that would have interfered with the plan. And the plan? That was to be the sacrifice offered for you and me to be saved.
Next time we see Jesus, He will be destroying those that oppose Him, and it will be violent.
Jesus too tolerant? Not at all. He is perfect and tolerates no evil. There is no “COEXIST” Jesus.
Tolerance: The last and only virtue of the completely immoral society.
thank you for fixing the link!
haha. nicely said :)
What makes you think he didn't? Where do you think they are now?
As for what Jesus has done with them ever since, He has the authority to do as He judges.
Jesus was tolerant of MOST people, but not all ideas.
Jesus couldn’t have destroyed the Pharisees because he was fully human. Which was why He ended up on the Cross.
But He could have done it because he was fully God. Which was why He ended up on the Cross.