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Is Evangelical Morality Still Acceptable in America?
The Atlantic ^ | 07/17/2014 | Alan Noble

Posted on 07/17/2014 7:09:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
How about IN GOD WE TRUST embedded in our currency?

Yep... it almost seems like mockery now.

21 posted on 07/17/2014 8:02:09 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: ConservingFreedom

Agreed. Didn’t expect an article like that from The Atlantic. Still, the tone seemed to almost be like Seinfeld’s bored and detached “That’s a shame.”


22 posted on 07/17/2014 8:09:15 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: ScottinVA

It’s time for citizens and churches to take back America with Judeo-Christian values and quit kowtowing to the “IMMORAL MINORITY”. This wimp mentality has to cease!


23 posted on 07/17/2014 8:09:54 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: afsnco
Agreed. Didn’t expect an article like that from The Atlantic. Still, the tone seemed to almost be like Seinfeld’s bored and detached “That’s a shame.”

It was quite low-key - but I liked this: "If the evangelical worldview is deemed invalid in the public sphere, then the public sphere loses the value of being public. American discourse will be marked by paranoid conformity, rather than principled and earnest disagreement."

24 posted on 07/17/2014 8:23:13 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: cloudmountain

As I’ve posted before on threads like this, you can be a church or you can be a liberal social club, but you can’t be both. Jonathan Rauch, however, doesn’t know what he’s talking about.


25 posted on 07/17/2014 8:27:33 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that said that the country would survive only as long as it remained educated. Hence, the current United States Department of (Dis)Education.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 8:30:59 AM PDT by Pecos (Kakistocracy - killing the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: darkangel82

I believe this is where we are in so many churches in this country. Wimpy pastors. . . . lukewarm congregations.

Revelation 3:14-22 NIV

To the Church in Laodicea

14 “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. 20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

21 To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”


27 posted on 07/17/2014 8:34:41 AM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: af_vet_1981

Legal immigration destroyed us, it wasn’t because the 200 million 1970 population of America wasn’t enough to have a great nation and win world wars and go to the moon and have the greatest education system in the world and be the leaders of business and excellence.


28 posted on 07/17/2014 8:43:33 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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29 posted on 07/17/2014 8:44:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: cloudmountain
I sometimes wonder if they aren't that already.

Are you kidding, they don't vote pro-abortion and for Obama like the Catholics, they vote almost 80% pro-life and anti-democrat.

They are the most Christian voting group in america.

30 posted on 07/17/2014 8:46:47 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: SeekAndFind
People who disagree with same-sex marriage and birth-control use have been met with accusations of bigotry.

Outside of Catholics, who disagrees with birth control (the non-abortifacient kind)?

31 posted on 07/17/2014 8:54:21 AM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Though a small, statistically insignificant minority, has used the media, education and the power of government to bully sexual perversion into the mainstream of normalcy, there are still a majority of people who either instinctively or intellectually know it is wrong, even if they are afraid to admit it.

The sexual perversion agenda has had a victory, but now we are going to get a look at what that agenda is all about. The pedophilia aspect of homosexuality will become more exposed, as will the filth aspect of sexual perversion, such as sadomasochism, brutality, and bestiality. Something other than the normal, harmless gay image is going to emerge to assault sensibilities and culture. The false image pushed by the sexual perversion agenda is going to get pushed aside by the desire to let the filth flag fly.

Our children are going to pay the price for our foolishness. Society has pushed out Christian, biblical values for a bag of sub-cultural crap.


32 posted on 07/17/2014 9:10:26 AM PDT by pallis
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To: ScottinVA

Then it ceases to be a Christian church and instead becomes a social club.

...that’s all most suburban churches are now...


33 posted on 07/17/2014 9:20:17 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: EricT.

Some independent type Christians, that’s the ‘quiver full’ thing I think. Some individuals that belong to groups that don’t have an institutional mandate against it also choose to reject bc within marriage. The only other groups besides the Catholics that prohibit bc within marriage as an institutional mandate are the Amish and old order Mennonites to my understanding. I think at least some Orthodox are supposed to get permission from their their spiritual adviser before using it, I have no idea how often it is asked for or given.

FReegards


34 posted on 07/17/2014 9:27:21 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

We are in a full blown culture war folks. We didn’t make the rules that we live by, God did, however, it is our job and duty to follow them. We have become a society that obsesses over tolerance and acceptance of everyone - except GOD.


36 posted on 07/17/2014 12:30:25 PM PDT by ProudChrwm
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To: af_vet_1981
Still need more research; my theory is the USA as we knew it is gone, not from illegal immigration, but from the reduced birthdate of American women since the widespread use of contraception.

I think two markers that are important happened in 1973. January, 1973, the U.S. legalizes the murder of the unborn child.

October, 1973, we stop Israel from continuing the whipping of Egypt and Syria during Yom-Kippur War.

After that we were hit with the oil embargo and our economy hasn't been the same since.

37 posted on 07/17/2014 12:53:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: txrefugee

Nooo, new Earth is your home, once the resurrection of the body happens when Jesus returns.

Apologies for theological nitpicking, as some might say, but that’s one of my pet peeves.


38 posted on 07/17/2014 1:08:42 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: SeekAndFind
It never has been and coming up with a one for one "Christian" version of everything society embraces is an example of how a great many folks who claim to be Evangelicals have themselves been chipping away at morality for a good while.

 "Evangelical morality" is shadow of what it was just twenty years ago and still not "acceptable".

JMHO

39 posted on 07/17/2014 2:23:18 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: ScottinVA

Freedom and liberty in the hands of the unrighteous, you get us.

True freedom and liberty our Messiah provides is not what this country peddles and pumps throughout the whole world..

That ‘freedom and liberty’ that the secular gods have ‘blessed us’ with are evidence of Hollywood, porn industry, music industry having their HQs on this soil...
A regular sodom, gomorrah, egypt ad babylon rolled into one...

Sadly, that freedom is celebrated by lots of folks on July 4th with bbqs and fireworks..
Yay Us!

Should be sackcloth and ashes... but hey, I consider this nation an enemy to the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob..

And no friend to me....


40 posted on 07/17/2014 3:53:24 PM PDT by delchiante
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