Concerns about Cremation: Some Very Strange Practices Are Emerging

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 03-17-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Jewbacca]

The guy who invented pringles was buried in a pringles can.

No joke.

[hsmomx3]

I can’t imagine doing this for a living but....someone has to do it.

[ferret_airlift]

I wanted to be stuffed, but my wife refused. I thought I might look nice in the living room.

Levity aside, my wife and I both plan cremation, only we’ll have our ashes put in a hole, and a long-living tree planted over each of us, like an oak. And that will be our monument

[Kaled]

OK, so it’s more a cultural trait (distinguishing themselves from the surrounding pagans) than a fundamental religious doctrine, then. That makes more sense.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Wow! Fifty posts and no Bible quotes - new record.

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Well if as long as you know where you are going when you check out there is no reason to get bent out of shape about it.

Just bury me in the garden next to the stupid lion...

[Responsibility2nd]

Bad link, but the article is (was) as follows...

 

Ashes of Pringles can designer buried in his work


CINCINNATI - The man who designed the Pringles potato crisp packaging system was so proud of his accomplishment that a portion of his ashes has been buried in one of the iconic cans.

Fredric J. Baur, of Cincinnati, died May 4 at Vitas Hospice in Cincinnati, his family said. He was 89.

Baur's children said they honored his request to bury him in one of the cans by placing part of his cremated remains in a Pringles container in his grave in suburban Springfield Township. The rest of his remains were placed in an urn buried along with the can, with some placed in another urn and given to a grandson, said Baur's daughter, Linda Baur of Diamondhead, Miss.

Baur requested the burial arrangement because he was proud of his design of the Pringles container, a son, Lawrence Baur of Stevensville, Mich., said Monday.

Baur was an organic chemist and food storage technician who specialized in research and development and quality control for Cincinnati-based Procter & Gamble Co.

Baur filed for a patent for the tubular Pringles container and for the method of packaging the curved, stacked chips in the container in 1966, and it was granted in 1970, P&G archivist Ed Rider said.

Baur retired from P&G in the early 1980s.

[Responsibility2nd]

Related story of ashes in a Pringles can..

 

Synagogue sued over missing ashes

Potato-chip can found in place of woman's remains in mausoleum

By ROMA KHANNA
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

The empty niche at left at Congregation Beth Israel's mausoleum once held the ashes of Vivian Shulman Lieberman. The niche of her husband, Seymour Lieberman, is at right.

When relatives of Vivian Shulman Lieberman went to visit her final resting place in a Houston mausoleum one year ago today, they discovered that the cedar chest containing her ashes was missing.

In its place, behind the locked, glass door of Lieberman's niche in Congregation Beth Israel's mausoleum, was a can of sour-cream-and-onion potato chips.



The ashes are still missing, says Philip Hilder, an attorney for Lieberman's two daughters.

"We have been devastated," Marcelle Lieberman said this week. "We hope we will be able to find her remains before we die, to give us closure of some sort."

Marcelle Lieberman says she visited the niche that July and her sister visited in fall 2003.

The daughters say they returned to the mausoleum together on June 10, 2004, their father's birthday, and discovered the potato chip can in their mother's niche.

A locksmith opened the niche and Houston police took custody of the can, which still contained potato chips.

"To their added horror," the lawsuit states, "Harriet and Marcelle learned that the ... can had been visible in the niche for at least six months."

The daughters allege that Schlitzberger's failed to close and lock the niche. More....

[mad_as_he$$]

Exactly! Mine is a wooden bear statue....

[Martin Tell]

The Orthodox Church still forbids cremations, with the exception of Japan where cremation is legally required.

The prohibition is partially due to the expectation of the resurrection, but as others on the thread pointed out, God is certainly capable of resurrecting ashes or decomposed bodies into our new, heavenly bodies. For good descriptions of what resurrection will be like, see The Valley of Dry Bones section of Ezekiel. St. Paul also discussed the resurrection.

Primary reason for forbidding cremation has to do with the nature of man. We are made in the image and likeness of God. Some saints clearly manifest that image and likeness in the current life and their bodies can also manifest that after their death. This is the foundation of the veneration of relics.

There are also biblical foundations for the power of relics. I don't have the citation handy, but the body of Elijah brought a man back to life (2 Kings?).

The willful destruction of a human body, like through cremation, can be viewed as also destroying God's handwork and the image and likeness of God.

Traditional Orthodox practices do not allow embalming either. Open caskets are the norm at funerals.

[GreyFriar]

There is usually a waiting period for both bodies and ashes to be interred at Arlington National Cemetery. This is due to the number of veterans who qualify to be burried there and the number of burials that can be done each day. The two burials I’ve attended in the last 3 years had a two month delay from the vet’s death to the earliest date the body could be buried.

Veterans who served aboard the USS Arizona can request their ashes be intered within the hull of the old battleship. The ashes are placed in a water proof container and placed at the bottom of gun turret number 3. One of the recent shows about the attack on Pearl Harbor shows such an interment, which is done with respect and solemenity.

A co-worker career Navy veteran uncle recently died and his ashes were buried at sea by a Navy ship and crew. I don’t know if it was a scattering of ashes over the sea, or a version of ‘burying a body’ by casting the urn into the waters. Again, done with all military honors.

[verga]

I never understood the logic of this. Did somebody (unclear on the definition of "omnipotent") believe that it was possible for God to resurrect a dead body, but restoring ashes was just too much to expect?

It had to do with the Masons. Many denied the Resurrection and used cremation to "prove" their point. Consequently the Catholic Church had to oppose this practice of cremation to avoid the apeparence of denying the Resurrection.

[verga]

I never understood the logic of this. Did somebody (unclear on the definition of "omnipotent") believe that it was possible for God to resurrect a dead body, but restoring ashes was just too much to expect?

It had to do with the Masons. Many denied the Resurrection and used cremation to "prove" their point. Consequently the Catholic Church had to oppose this practice of cremation to avoid the appearance of denying the Resurrection.

[GreyFriar]

From a commentary/reflection on the Spiritual Body That I am posting for your consideration.

http://bswett.com/2013-01Body.html

Some Christian churches teach the doctrine of the resurrection of the body — that the physical bodies of all the dead will rise from their graves at the end of the age and be restored to health and wholeness, but Saint Paul wrote to the early church at Corinth: “The body that is sown [buried] is perishable; it is raised imperishable — it is sown a natural [physical] body; it is raised a spiritual body.” (I Corinthians 15: 42-44) Here are some indications that this can happen now and not only at the end of the age.

“Jimmy L.”

Jimmy was old. He fell in his bathroom and broke his right hand. It didn’t heal properly and remained badly crippled, drawn up like a claw. Several years later, he died, and I went to his memorial service. I thought I saw him sitting in his usual place in church. After the service, I went outside to smoke my pipe. When I looked back at the church, I saw Jimmy smiling at me through the glass door. He knew I saw him, and grinned, and held up his right hand in the World War Two “OK” sign (tip of forefinger against tip of thumb to make the O, with the other three fingers extended and flexed to make the K). It was only later that I realized the significance of what I saw — his hand isn’t crippled anymore.

“Remember yourself young and strong”

While my son, Bruce, and his wife, Laura, were visiting a nursing home, they saw the ghost of an old woman who probably died there, all crippled and hunched down as though she was still in her wheel chair. They tried to speak to her, but she was unresponsive. They didn’t know what to do, so they prayed for her. Bruce was inspired to say to her, “Remember yourself young and strong.” Both Bruce and Laura saw that crippled old woman suddenly transform into a beautiful young woman and go dancing up into the Light.

[muir_redwoods]

My screen name is where my wife’s ashes are spread. She asked me to have her body cremated because she wanted to have the last laugh at the cancer that killed her. She loved the majestic redwoods at the Muir National Monument forest so there she is.

[Hot Tabasco]

Cremation is little more than desecration

After I die and my soul goes to heaven, will angels come and grab me and throw me out if my dead body is eventually cremated?

[JimRed]

Very few if any people these days choose cremation for the reasons it had traditionally been forbidden, namely as a denial of the resurrection of the body.

Why do they believe that God would not be able to gather , reassemble, rehydrate and reanimate even the scattered ashes of the cremated?

[shortstop]

My plan is to live forever. So far, my plan is working.

If that doesn't work, I hope to live to be 100 and get shot by a jealous husband.

[Carthego delenda est]

“I always wanted to be stuffed. Then I could be wheeled out for family gatherings.”

Lol! You could also have a motion sensor somewhere so when someone walked by it would trigger recordings of you (obviously made in advance) of phrases you were known to say or perhaps a generalized comment about the weather.

[Carthego delenda est]

Maybe it just on my end, but I tried the link you provided twice and it doesn’t work properly. I’d like to read more of what you posted...

[markman46]

interesting!!

my first wife has both of her parents ashes in urn’s on her hutch, and the cats are in a box, my father was scattered at sea, my mother is at my house waiting for my brother to make up his mind on what to do