Posted on 08/19/2015 10:21:00 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
I wrote this article 20 years ago to give an overview of some of the biblical aspects of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Pope Pius IX, who defined this dogma, declared that Our Lady, “in the first instance of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace granted by God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin” (Ineffabilis Deus, 1854). His face stiffened, and his eyes narrowed to slits. Until now the Calvary Chapel pastor had been calm as he “shared the gospel” with me, but when I mentioned my belief in Mary’s Immaculate Conception, his attitude changed.
“The problem with you Roman Catholics,” he said, his forefinger stabbing the air a few inches from my face, “is that you’ve added extra baggage to the gospel. How can you call yourselves Christians when you cling to unbiblical traditions like the Immaculate Conception? It’s not in the Bible–it was invented by the Roman Catholic system in 1854. Besides, Mary couldn’t have been sinless, only God is sinless. If she were without sin she would be God!”
At least the minister got the date right, 1854 being the year Pope Pius IX infallibly defined the doctrine of Mary’s Immaculate Conception, but that’s as far as his accuracy went. His reaction was typical of many Evangelicals. He was adamant that the Catholic emphasis on Mary’s sinlessness was an unbearable affront to the unique holiness of God, especially as manifested in Jesus Christ. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at patrickmadrid.com ...
Heh, you betcha, Red Ryder.
GIGO
I need you to translate.
If my reading of the guidelines is correct, this thread won't qualify: "Unlike the 'caucus' threads, the article and reply posts of an 'ecumenical' thread may discuss more than one belief."
It may be more likely to qualify as one of those "ecumenical" threads, which allows discussion but not antagonism. A proper "ecumenical" thread has neither the exclusion of the "caucus" threads (if this were a caucus thread, I couldn't post here) nor the rampant antagonism of the "open" threads. I don't know why more people don't use it; my best guess is simply not knowing about it (it's not used very often), and I will take advantage of a good opportunity to promote it.
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So, patrickmadrid too good to share his deep insights without a word from his sponsor?
Is there a Blogpimp Caucus?
Sorry, but ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE does the Scriptures indicate that Mary was sinless, or even immaculately conceived. God did not indicate that through the angel, when Mary was told that she was chosen to be mother of God’s Son. Mary was not sinless, nor were her parents, and back through the ages. If you look at the lineage of Christ, there are harlots and all kinds of sinners. The Lord chose Mary as a meek and lowly virgin, one who would never have thought that God was choose her. Our Lord and Savior was conceived through the HS. Mary was NOT. This is a pagan belief that has no place in True Christianity. The basis of this goes all the way back to the tower of Babel, but truly, even before that...in the Garden. Satan, himself, is the perpetuator of this lie.
Scripture states that Mary would be called “blessed” to have the honor to be the mother of the Christ, not any favor that she “earned” in her own efforts. She saw it as God’s favor towards her. One will notice that she only states her lowly position, as if to say she did not expect any such favor.
Worshiping Mary along with Jesus is a false doctrine. It is akin to having other gods besides Jehovah. I see no reason to believe that Mary will be honored in Heaven as Queen of Heaven. Our Lord Jesus Christ and His apostles warned of wolves that would come into the Body of Christ and sow deceptive heresies. Jesus asked the apostle John to care for His mother while she lived, but He gave no indication that she was Queen of Heaven, or anything of the sort. There is no talk anywhere in Scripture of a Queen of Heaven. There is the Trinity, the angels, and the saints...which are those who come to faith in Christ, in His completed work of redemption for us through the cross and His resurrection from the dead.
Mary was the blessed virgin God chose as the vehicle of of His birth, nothing more. We SHOULD esteem her, as she is a model that God would have us live by, in that she did not think of herself more highly than she should, but she let God elevate her position in life, and she did not boast or make claims about herself. God calls each of us to come through the cross of Christ, and the HS sanctifies our walk to perfect that which God began in us. Mary has no part in that.
You know, shortened to who a Caucus excludes rather than who it includes.
When God says something once he means it, but when he says it five times he trying to make and absolute point!
Genesis 8:21
1 Kings 8:46
Ecclesiastes 7:20
Romans 3:9
Romans 3:23
I had the impression that the "Immaculate Conception" was Mary's mother's conception of Mary.
http://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=6056
Yet catholics perpetuate this false teaching in spite of this fact.
I actually liked this line, modified:
“The problem with you (insert a bunch of different groups’ names)...is that you’ve added extra baggage to the gospel.”
Bitter truth.
What is your protestant interpretation of “full of grace”?
“Worshiping Mary along with Jesus is a false doctrine.”
So why do you do it? Why do you worship Mary?
Acts 6:8
And Stephen, full of grace and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people.
The Immaculate Conception, according to the teaching of the Catholic Church, was the conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary in her mother’s womb free from original sin by virtue of the foreseen merits of her son Jesus Christ. Read Patrick Madrid’s article.
His case is dismissed.
Jesus' flesh aged...It would have died of old age had Jesus not been killed...Jesus felt pain, hunger...
Jesus didn't have a perfect body so what would have been the point in coming from a woman who was immaculate??? There is none...An immaculate conception produced a flawed body...I don't think so...
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