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Posted on 12/20/2015 10:29:03 AM PST by ebb tide
Bless your little heart!
You’ve done so. Have a nice day.
That paganism was adopted in mass covered by a thin veneer of Christian words. That is what happened when the Emperor Constantine created his church circa 355 A.D.
Say what? Looks like just another claim.
More speculation and hearsay. OMG you're not even on thin ice here. You're walking on cold water.
Can I have your autograph?
By the way the person claiming Fatima is a fake is a member in good standing of the Roman Church. I merely agree with him for the reasons stated.
70,000 witnesses know better than you.
Of course they do especially when they see the face of Mary in the morning’s scrambled eggs.
No he's not and you're being disruptive and spurious. If cannot prove what you are claiming, throwing out more claims doesn't make your case.
Ebb Tide didn't reach out to you for your opinion. You're on record on this thread. Why just go start a thread of your own to make your points, OK? Everyone here gets your angle.
Geez, where is Bandwidth Posse when you need it?
And by the way millions knew the earth was flat. Millions knew that the sun revolved around the earth. By your reasoning those millions knew more than me. One can actually see the sun revolving around the earth; one simply sees that the earth is flat.
“Called “Mass Hysteria—
No. It would not be - technically - “Mass Hysteria” since there were visible effects and even those who DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE VIRGIN MARY still experienced all of the same effects as everyone else. You’ll have to try again.
Sorry Aemilius you are wrong.......I am a recipient of a miracle from Our Lady of Fatima! Changed my life dramatically in so many beautiful ways. She always points to Her Beloved Son!
“And by the way millions knew the earth was flat.”
No, they didn’t. http://www.amazon.com/Inventing-Flat-Earth-Columbus-Historians/dp/027595904X
“That paganism was adopted in mass covered by a thin veneer of Christian words. That is what happened when the Emperor Constantine created his church circa 355 A.D.”
Constantine was dead for almost 20 years at that point. He also never established a Church. You might want to read this from the well-known Presbyterian scholar Peter Leithart: http://www.amazon.com/Defending-Constantine-Twilight-Empire-Christendom/dp/0830827226/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1450639903&sr=1-10
I also think this book would do wonders for improving your real knowledge of history: http://www.amazon.com/Baptist-Successionism-James-Edward-McGoldrick/dp/0810836815/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1450640009&sr=1-1&keywords=baptist+successionism
The Miracle of the Sun
An Eyewitness Account by Dr. José Maria de Almeida Garrett, professor at the Faculty of Sciences of Coimbra, Portugal
"It must have been 1:30 p.m when there arose, at the exact spot where the children were, a column of smoke, thin, fine and bluish, which extended up to perhaps two meters above their heads, and evaporated at that height. This phenomenon, perfectly visible to the naked eye, lasted for a few seconds. Not having noted how long it had lasted, I cannot say whether it was more or less than a minute. The smoke dissipated abruptly, and after some time, it came back to occur a second time, then a third time
"The sky, which had been overcast all day, suddenly cleared; the rain stopped and it looked as if the sun were about to fill with light the countryside that the wintery morning had made so gloomy. I was looking at the spot of the apparitions in a serene, if cold, expectation of something happening and with diminishing curiosity because a long time had passed without anything to excite my attention. The sun, a few moments before, had broken through the thick layer of clouds which hid it and now shone clearly and intensely.
"Suddenly I heard the uproar of thousands of voices, and I saw the whole multitude spread out in that vast space at my feet...turn their backs to that spot where, until then, all their expectations had been focused, and look at the sun on the other side. I turned around, too, toward the point commanding their gaze and I could see the sun, like a very clear disc, with its sharp edge, which gleamed without hurting the sight. It could not be confused with the sun seen through a fog (there was no fog at that moment), for it was neither veiled nor dim. At Fatima, it kept its light and heat, and stood out clearly in the sky, with a sharp edge, like a large gaming table. The most astonishing thing was to be able to stare at the solar disc for a long time, brilliant with light and heat, without hurting the eyes or damaging the retina. [During this time], the sun's disc did not remain immobile, it had a giddy motion, [but] not like the twinkling of a star in all its brilliance for it spun round upon itself in a mad whirl.
"During the solar phenomenon, which I have just described, there were also changes of color in the atmosphere. Looking at the sun, I noticed that everything was becoming darkened. I looked first at the nearest objects and then extended my glance further afield as far as the horizon. I saw everything had assumed an amethyst color. Objects around me, the sky and the atmosphere, were of the same color. Everything both near and far had changed, taking on the color of old yellow damask. People looked as if they were suffering from jaundice and I recall a sensation of amusement at seeing them look so ugly and unattractive. My own hand was the same color.
"Then, suddenly, one heard a clamor, a cry of anguish breaking from all the people. The sun, whirling wildly, seemed all at once to loosen itself from the firmament and, blood red, advance threateningly upon the earth as if to crush us with its huge and fiery weight. The sensation during those moments was truly terrible.
"All the phenomena which I have described were observed by me in a calm and serene state of mind without any emotional disturbance. It is for others to interpret and explain them. Finally, I must declare that never, before or after October 13 [1917], have I observed similar atmospheric or solar phenomena."
Professor Almeida Garrett's full account may be found in Novos Documentos de Fatima (Loyala editions, San Paulo, 1984)
“Of course they do especially when they see the face of Mary in the morning’s scrambled eggs.”
Well, when someone can’t make a logical argument I guess there’s always what you’re doing now. I’ll just stick to making logical arguments, thanks.
I understand that the event at Fatima was reported by three small children, and there were no other witnesses. Is there any additional evidence that would make their story more credible?
Stop being an @ss.
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