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** That Jesus lived in obscurity for 30 years is testimony to the dignity of every human person, even the most hidden and forgotten.**

Amen!

1 posted on 01/30/2016 8:51:32 AM PST by Salvation
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Ping to Monsignor Pope’s OSV column.


2 posted on 01/30/2016 8:52:44 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

This has been one of my questions for many years.

Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 01/30/2016 8:56:38 AM PST by datura (Proud Infidel)
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To: Salvation

O-Pope writes a solid post - even appropriately using Scripture.
Much better than A-Pope!


4 posted on 01/30/2016 9:01:33 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: Salvation

The dignity, certainly, that God invests in every human being. The measure is that of heaven, which DOES record all of this material meticulously in its books, not that of the world, which requires certain fickle criteria to be met.

Celebrity is a worldly concept. God can use it to focus the world’s attention, but it quickly can turn into a caricature of honor. In fact, celebrity is conducive to lies. The bible doesn’t leave these years of the Son of God unmentioned, but speaks about them only broadly. Growing in “favor” (the divine favor which is better known as grace, not the world’s fickle favor) with men and God. Jews would have known Him as quite a mensch, in that terminology.


5 posted on 01/30/2016 9:03:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Salvation

But, one of the other disciples made a comment regarding all the events surrounding Jesus walk on the earth .. to say that if they had all been written down, there would be monumental volumes of information.

So, I also believe that the MOST IMPORTANT things GOD wanted us to know .. were written in the Bible as we know it today.

All the other miracles were important; but they did not increase the amount of knowledge that GOD planned for us to know.


11 posted on 01/30/2016 9:24:04 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The Fields are White Unto Harvest")
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To: Salvation
He was traveling with his Great Uncle Joseph of Arimathea who owned tin mines in Great Britain. Or so the legend goes passed down by the miners in their songs/hymns

http://www.storyline-features.co.uk/glastonbury.htm

12 posted on 01/30/2016 9:24:45 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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It would be 30 years of boring history to read. A boy that never dipped a pigtail of the girl sitting in front of him into the inkwell.


14 posted on 01/30/2016 9:29:24 AM PST by fso301
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There are apocryphal stories but they were never accepted as scripture. The Infancy Gospel of Thomas contains some of these childhood legends. One problem with them is the Jesus they portray sometimes behaved like the little kid in the Twilight Zone episode It's a Good Life. The one where Billy Mumy has magical powers and sends anyone who offends him "out into the cornfield". One of the scariest episodes in the series.
17 posted on 01/30/2016 9:40:05 AM PST by katana (Just my opinion)
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Those who wrote the Gospels only knew Jesus for a few years. He was teaching everlasting life. I don’t think he was concerned about the here and now.

I assume He did tell them how He came to be.


21 posted on 01/30/2016 9:47:31 AM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: Salvation
That Jesus lived in obscurity for 30 years is testimony to the dignity of every human person

Jesus Christ: One Solitary Life

He was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant. He grew up in another village, where he worked in a carpenter shop until he was 30. Then, for three years, he was an itinerant preacher.

He never wrote a book.
He never held an office.
He never had a family or owned a home.
He didn't go to college.
He never lived in a big city.
He never traveled 200 miles from the place where he was born.
He did none of the things that usually accompany greatness.
He had no credentials but himself.

He was only 33 when the tide of public opinion turned against him. His friends ran away. One of them denied him. He was turned over to his enemies and went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a cross between two thieves. While he was dying, his executioners gambled for his garments, the only property he had on earth. When he was dead, he was laid in a borrowed grave, through the pity of a friend.

Twenty centuries have come and gone, and today he is the central figure of the human race. I am well within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that ever sailed, all the parliaments that ever sat, all the kings that ever reigned--put together--have not affected the life of man on this earth as much as that one, solitary life.

Attributed to James Allen Francis.

May we simple say in polite terms; Gone but not forgotten.

25 posted on 01/30/2016 9:52:21 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love Many, Trust Few, and Always Paddle Your Own Canoe)
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To: Salvation

Great explanation


38 posted on 01/30/2016 10:29:04 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway - "Enjoy Yourself" ala Louis Prima)
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Question: One of my great frustrations with Scripture as an historical source is that it leaves so much out. Almost 30 years of Jesus’ life receive no mention at all. How can this be that the life of the most pivotal figure in history receives such vague biographical treatment?— Name, location withheld,

Answer: Part of the answer to this is to understand that the Gospels do not propose to be chronological histories of the Lord’s life. The Gospels do record the things that Jesus actually said and did, but they do so in a selective way. St. John says why near the end of his Gospel: “Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples that are not written in this book. But these are written that you may come to believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that through this belief you may have life in his name” (Jn 20:30-31).

Now, if all catholics could understand this we'd be getting somewhere.

We have everything we need to know about how to have eternal life in the Scriptures. Catholic tradition is not needed.

43 posted on 01/30/2016 2:06:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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St. Joseph probably worked in the limestone mines in Israel. Poor people weren't professionals, like carpenters, but they DID work in the mines.
Those limestone mines are still in operation today. I saw them.

No, I didn't do any mining.

44 posted on 01/30/2016 4:19:02 PM PST by cloudmountain
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It is so interesting.
Any time you post something about our faith a few of the standard Catholic bashers come out of the woodwork.
You would THINK that they had more in their lives to think about than bash Catholicism. I guess not. We are a raison d'etre for them. How sad, but not surprising.

I once asked a few to explain how THEIR denomination was different than Catholicism, other than the papcy, and how their denomination was different from the others.
Sadly, no one really knew any answers except it ab incunabulis.

Why don't they spent the equal time extolling their own denomination of Protestantism? There have been tens of thousands of them. We would get a glimse of their diversity.

They must be very impressed with the Church to pay SO much attention to it: maior e longinquo reverentia.

45 posted on 01/30/2016 4:28:24 PM PST by cloudmountain
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“Question: One of my great frustrations with Scripture as an historical source is that it leaves so much out. Almost 30 years of Jesus’ life receive no mention at all. How can this be that the life of the most pivotal figure in history receives such vague biographical treatment?— Name, location withheld,”

What’s really funny is that the Holy Scripture is even more vague about Mary, but the RCC has volumes made up about her. Just make it up your good a fairy tales.


48 posted on 01/30/2016 6:21:55 PM PST by mrobisr (If you don't take care of your Bride how do you ever expect Jesus to let you take care of his Bride?)
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To: Salvation

I can agree with that.


50 posted on 01/30/2016 8:30:14 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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