Posted on 12/21/2016 5:27:08 PM PST by grumpa
Below is a list of 101 preterist passages in the New Testament. This compilation puts an exclamation point to the radical nearness in time of the culmination of the last-days’ events. Note that some of these passages are clear and unmistakable, including such phrases as “must shortly take place,” “soon,” “near,” “at hand,” “this generation,” and “before some standing here taste death.” Others are not quite so obvious, such as “the axe is already laid at the root of the trees,” but also impart a sense of imminent fulfillment. Still others are addressed to a specific audience in the first century—so if we read “when YOU see,” a phrase often spoken by Jesus, we can be confident that He meant that those to whom He was speaking would see the fulfillment of his prophecy.
It is also important to understand that there are no passages in the New Testament that unambiguously say that the events would happen thousands of years later. Though some readers might prefer to read a distant future into certain texts, such interpretations are based on presupposition—reading something INTO the text ("eisegesis")—rather than drawing FROM the text ("exegesis"). Biblical interpretation, properly done, attempts to glean from the text what the writer intended and how the original audience would have understood it.
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https://www.prophecyquestions.com/2014/02/01/articles-by-charles-meek/
“15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.”
2 Timothy 2:15-18
A Biblical Analysis of the False Doctrine of Preterism
http://www.according2prophecy.org/Preterism.html
Jesus came not just to start the job of salvation, but to finish it. In His earthly life he came to save, but then He return in judgment of those who betrayed Him. Thus, the old covenant was completed in Him and destroyed so that the New Covenant could flourish.
This is essential to understanding that we are not just saved, but fully restored to a full relationship with God just as it was before the fall. There is nothing left to wait for. Jesus as fulfilled it ALL.
Jesus has not returned yet. There is not a single verse in the Bible you can point to that says so, every single verse referring to his return tells us it is yet to come.
Jesus did not return during the period in which the Bible was written, so, of course, it would not be in there. The “End of the Age” (the age of the old covenant) took place during the 3 1/2 year (the last half week from Daniel) destruction of the temple. The faithful Jews ran into the Temple for protection, and faithful Christians ran to the hills as Jesus had instructed them to do. The Jews turned into factions and mostly killed each other, then in the end the Romans finished the rest. So there were no Jews or Christians to record these events - that is, no one but Josephus. He was an eye witness and his works are available on line: http://www.josephus.org/FlJosephus2/warChronology7Fall.html
http://www.josephus.org/home.htm
Just consider the possibility that Jesus knew what He was talking about when he told His disciples that some of them would see this, and in Revelation when he told John that these things were to happen shortly. Once you accept what Jesus said, the rest will fall in place.
“Jesus did not return during the period in which the Bible was written, so, of course, it would not be in there.”
Yet the New Testament was compiled after you purport He returned, and there were apostles, writers of the NT books, still alive after that period. So you would have us believe that Jesus returned and nobody thought to document it or include any such documentation when they were compiling the most important book in the world. That is not a credible proposition.
“So there were no Jews or Christians to record these events - that is, no one but Josephus”
That is irrelevant, since the Bible tells us quite a few times that the entire world would witness Christ’s return, yet none of the Greek or Roman writers mention it. Josephus himself recorded the destruction of the Temple, but he says nothing about Christ’s return, so you still have not presented a single source for that contention.
“Just consider the possibility that Jesus knew what He was talking about when he told His disciples that some of them would see this, and in Revelation when he told John that these things were to happen shortly.”
Jesus certainly knew what He was talking about, it is preterists who are confused about what He was talking about.
Matthew 24:30
“At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory.”
The Wars of The Jews, 6:5:3
Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius,a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for,before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner (court of the temple,) as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that,in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, “Let us remove hence.”
Yet, “all the nations of the earth” did not see that and mourn, so even if Josephus recorded it accurately, it cannot be a fulfillment of Matthew 24:30.
The pagan historian Tacitus also mentions this event: “In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour.”
This supernatural phenomenon also did not escape the notice of the medieval Jewish historian Sepher Yosippon who expounds upon this angelic army in the sky of A.D. 66 by saying, “Moreover, in those days were seen chariots of fire and horsemen, a great force flying across the sky near to the ground coming against Jerusalem and all the land of Judah.”
In the Bible, all the world generally means all of the Israel Nation.
“The pagan historian Tacitus also mentions this event: “In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour.””
Ok, so that is perhaps 2 people mentioning something (neither of them Christians, who we would expect to mention the most anticipated fulfillment of prophecy), while the Bible says people of every nation will witness Christ’s return. Also, neither source actually describes anything that sounds like Christ’s second coming as it is described in the Bible.
“This supernatural phenomenon also did not escape the notice of the medieval Jewish historian Sepher Yosippon...”
A medieval Jewish historian couldn’t have witnessed anything in 70 AD, since he wouldn’t have been alive, so he is probably just paraphrasing Josephus. That is not an additional source.
“In the Bible, all the world generally means all of the Israel Nation.”
No it doesn’t. That’s just the type of foolishness you must try to assert once you follow a method like preterism where you put your preordained conclusion first, and the Bible second. You must try to twist the language of the Bible to something other than what it says because the Bible clearly contradicts the interpretation you are attached to.
Anyway, it’s a fool’s errand to look for signs of the second coming in 70 AD, since all of us can just look at our current situation and see that he promises God made concerning Christ’s return have not been fulfilled, so it could not have happened yet.
Here are a few of the promises that accompany Christ’s second coming, which clearly have not happened:
* Christians will be glorified like the risen Christ when Christ returns
(Col 3:4, 1 John 3:2, 2 Cor 5)
* Sinners will be judged after Christ’s return
(Jude 1:14-15, Rev 20, 1 Cor 4:5, 2 Thes 1:5-10)
* The earth will be destroyed with fire after Christ’s return
(2 Peter 3:7-13, Isaiah 24)
* God will rule the Earth from Mount Zion after the second coming
(Isaiah 24:23, Rev 14)
None of that has happened, so for your interpretation to be true, God would have to be a liar. That is impossible, so your interpretation cannot be true.
Thanks for the link.
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