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Prominent freemason and occultist predicted 50 years ago a one-world religion led by a ‘Christ’ to come
LifeSite News ^ | March 22, 2024 | Emily Mangiaracina

Posted on 03/24/2024 7:33:52 PM PDT by ebb tide

Prominent freemason and occultist predicted 50 years ago a one-world religion led by a ‘Christ’ to come

It is not until now, in the era of Pope Francis, that we can make sense of Foster Bailey’s prediction that Catholicism — which he considers to be the most backward religion — may lead a ‘Christian religious revival.’

A high-ranking freemason, occultist, and co-founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company 50 years ago predicted key features of a coming one-world government, including a “cashless society” and worldwide socialism. But his blueprint for a new world order is unique in its specific predictions about a one-world religion that is to be led by a “Christ” to come — or rather, the Antichrist.

In the book “Things to Come,” (issued by what is now called the Lucis Publishing Company) Foster Bailey, author of “The Spirit of Masonry” and husband of Alice Bailey, a “godmother” of the new-age movement, gives hints as to what the coming one-world religion will look like and helps the reader to imagine the unthinkable: that a one-world government will indeed promote a new religion, and even be wedded to that religion.

In fact, the one-world religion will be the very heart of the new world order, because the most important conquest of the inner circle of globalists is not your body, but your soul. This is largely why the coming religious deception is generally shrouded in obscurity, unlike the political and economic facets of the NWO.

If anyone were to grasp the plans for the one-world religion, it would be someone like Foster Bailey. As a 33rd degree freemason, he was evidently privy to the secret society’s designs to subvert the Catholic Church and help usher in this one-world religion, which his writings hint at.

His wife, Alice, suggests that freemasonry will help prepare the way for the “Great One” to come, also known as “the Christ,” who Foster describes as a “great spiritual leader” and a “living man today” who “does not come to save us but to help us save ourselves,” and “not from a hell of physical suffering.”

Alice predicted that “mysteries will be restored to outer expression through the medium of the Church and the masonic fraternity,” calling the “Masonic Movement” the “home of the Mysteries and the seat of initiation.” The “Great One,” (read: Antichrist) she says, is working toward the same end as freemasonry: “When the Great One comes with his disciples and initiates we shall have … the restoration of the Mysteries,” Bailey wrote in “The Externalization of the Hierarchy.”

She admitted that freemasonry is, at its core, an occult group, writing that the “masonic movement” “is a far more occult organization than can be realized, and is intended to be the training school for the coming advanced occultists.”

A Luciferian endeavor 

The occult involvement of Alice and Foster give credence to the claim of ex-freemasons that the fraternity is satanic at its highest levels — that the “Great Architect of the Universe” is Satan. As hardcore occultists, the couple openly praised Lucifer, and were literally “plugged in” to demons, through what they describe as “New Age” practices. 

For example, in “Things to Come,” Bailey described a “process of overshadowing” by which “the Christ” (not Jesus Christ as Christians understand Him) or an “ascended Master” renders a “disciple” “much more usable. This suggests that he deliberately opened himself to possession or at least influence by “spirits,” which as many former New Agers can testify, are often demons in disguise.

And Alice claimed to “telepathically” receive messages from a “Master of Wisdom” she labeled “the Tibetan” or “Djwal Khul (D.K.), which she said comprised the majority of her writings. These messages are likewise probably of demonic origin, all the more so because of her esteem for Lucifer/Satan.

We can, therefore, while taking the Baileys’ predictions regarding the “Christ” to come with a grain of salt, understand them as a likely foreshadowing of how the Antichrist will deceptively sugarcoat himself and his evil religion. 

Regarding the “Christ” who will lead the one-world religion, Foster Bailey gives a couple of hints as to what he will be like (expanded on by Alice, as detailed below):

“The word Christ is a name in the Hierarchy for the holder of an all embracing world-wide divine leadership and as so used, transcends orthodox limitations. Christ to the modern mind is an active, intelligent world executive, and a living man today. His vision and his action are for all men. He is not at all limited to Christianity.”

Thus, the Antichrist will deny one of the fundamental beliefs of Christianity, which is that Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father: “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6)

Foster, by contrast, insists that the idea that Christianity is “the only true religion” makes Christians guilty of the “special sin” of “separatism.” However, such a belief not only conforms to the words of Jesus Christ Himself but to the logical principle of noncontradiction: Two contradictory things cannot simultaneously be true.

Foster signals that this “Christ” to come will not consider necessary the belief in Heaven or Hell, since he wrote, “It is not the function of any religion or any church organization to … try to scare people into a mythical heaven.” 

We can glean more about the nature of the Antichrist and his one-world religion through Foster’s remarks about the major religions. It is telling that Foster’s disdain for Christianity contrasts with his esteem for Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism, which are spared criticism entirely (“liberal Jews” get a very brief positive mention, while other Jews, like Catholics, are mentioned to be “excessively separative”).

Catholicism: The supreme enemy of Bailey — and freemasonry

Even more revealing is the fact that Catholicism is the religion most repugnant to Foster, an attitude inherent to freemasonry, which is diametrically opposed to the Catholic faith above all. 

This is because Catholicism is more opposed than any other religion to Foster’s/freemasonry’s idea that we should “be obedient to our own inner spiritual selves.” In other words, Catholicism is most opposed to the “supreme injunction” promoted by the occultist and “magician” Aleister Crowley: “Do what thou wilt.” (It is noteworthy that Crowley, who, it is publicly acknowledged, deliberately summoned demons, said he wrote his seminal work according to the dictations of a disembodied voice, like Alice Bailey.)

It is why freemasons, when they reach the 30th degree, crush under foot a papal tiara, swearing to free mankind from “the thraldom of spiritual tyranny,” according to Father Alex Zenthoefer.

Dr. Taylor Marshall explains in his book Infiltration that a major goal of freemasonry (echoed in Things to Come) is in fact to replace Catholicism: “The strategy of … Freemasonry is to arrange secret societies to subvert the current (Catholic) order and replace it with an enlightened order in which all religions are approximations of the truth — all religions become allegorical and equal. The Catholic Church is the Vetus Ordo Saeculorum — the Old Order of the World. Freemasonry is the Novus Ordo Saeculorum — the New Order of the World.”

Second Vatican Council is evidence of “New Age” influence 

In keeping with his masonic and occult beliefs, while Foster Bailey makes clear that Catholicism is too “dogmatic,” he sees a spark of hope in the Second Vatican Council, which he considers a watershed moment largely because the clergy are distancing themselves from “useless dogmas”:

Increasing numbers of religious leaders are recognizing that the church must abandon useless dogmas and that it is out of step with the development of human intelligence today. There is a ferment arising in the religious field which is forcing reformation of churchianity. Amazing things are taking place in the Roman Catholic Church, for example.

For centuries the Roman Catholic Church has been dominated and controlled by the Curia, a body of ultra-conservative doctrinaires who wielded undisputed power over all cardinals and bishops. Until this control was broken there was little hope for any spiritual change. Pope John XXIII broke it in the first session of the Second Ecumenical Council. 

Today the present Pope is largely free from this shackling influence and a new Collegia is gaining power and great influence as to all Church affairs. This is a far-reaching change in the organization itself, the fruits of which will be startling indeed. 

Foster is not talking about a difference of mere degrees in what the Catholic Church teaches or how, but about a fundamental “break,” a disconnect with its past. He goes on to explain how:

“The Second Session of the Ecumenical Council witnessed the promulgation of the doctrine that every man is free to worship God as he chooses without condemnation of the Church,” Foster wrote, predicting that “This new religious freedom in the Catholic Church, when implemented, will completely change the system by which the Church has controlled its followers for ages.”

The idea of religious freedom is so revered today, even by devout Christians, that it is difficult for people to consider why the Catholic Church long taught that “error has no rights.” This does not mean the Church ever taught that people should be legally coerced into practicing Catholicism. But to teach that a human being has a right to publicly practice a false religion is contrary to the Church’s desire that all men find the truth and be saved.

It is easiest to understand this when considering whether a satanist has a right to erect a Baphomet statue at a state capitol or run a satanic children’s club at a school. Most Christians today will passionately insist that satanists do not have this right. Why? Because it is harmful both to a just society and to souls. But we make exceptions for other religions because they aren’t explicitly or obviously opposed to God, forgetting that other religions harm souls as well and put them at risk, because they reject what Jesus taught — that He is the only way to the Father — and the fullness of the moral law.

We forget that it is because we have embraced this very principle of religious liberty in the U.S., for example, that satanists are able to erect statues and displays before state capitols and start “after school satan clubs.

Many have forgotten that religious indifferentism — the idea that it really does not matter to which religion one belongs — is a masonic idea, something also noted by the traditional Catholic priestly Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and its founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. 

While they are much criticized and considered “irregular” by the Vatican for refusing to embrace the entirety of the Second Vatican Council, the SSPX correctly points out that Vatican II’s teaching that no one is “to be restrained from acting in accordance with his own beliefs, whether privately or publicly,” stems from freemasonry, breaks with the Church’s perennial teaching, and undermines the conversion of souls to the Catholic faith.

Vatican II did in fact greatly weaken Catholic belief and practice, as seen in the dramatic decline in religious vocations and even Church attendance after the Council. The climate of religious indifferentism that it encouraged led to a newfound religious apathy among Catholics, which Foster Bailey noted when he wrote, “Youth no longer fears to disobey the Church.” He predicted that from their “freedom” would emerge a “new attitude toward religion based on reasonableness and cooperation.”

Keeping in mind that the new-age movement was (wittingly or not) demonically inspired, and that freemasonry is inseparable from the occultism at the core of new age practice, we can grasp why Foster Bailey would say that Vatican II showed the influence of “new age spiritual energy”:

“It is significant that the Council has issued no anathemas, condemned no movements, not even communism, and avoided dogmatic declarations, as has been wisely pointed out. Here again we have evidence of the presence of new age spiritual energy affecting religious thought. The whole edifice of law, custom and religious practice that had supported Catholic stability since the Council of Trent was threatened.”

“Satan will rule in the Vatican”

Foster goes so far as to predict: “It may eventuate that the most crystallized, materialistic and dogmatic Church in the Christian world will become the leader in a Christian religious revival.” 

That should seem like a strange remark. What would make Foster think that the religion most opposed to the supremacy of one’s own “inner guidance” would eventually become its biggest champion?

As Dr. Marshall has well documented in his book on the subject, Infiltration, freemasonry has indeed long planned to infiltrate the Catholic Church, even to the point of making one of its own the pope.

This is revealed in the “Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita,” which Dr. Marshall notes was reproduced in the English translation in the lecture by Right Rev. Msgr. George Dillon D.D., in Edinburgh in October 1884. Its author, who writes under the pseudonym Piccolo Tigre or “Little Tiger,” explains the long-term goal of freemasons:

Our final end is that of Voltaire and the Revolution, the destruction forever of Catholicism and even of the Christian idea which, if left standing on the ruins of Rome, would be the resuscitation of Christianity later.

The Pope, whoever he will be, will never come to the secret societies. It is for the secret societies to come first to the Church, with the aim of winning them both. The work which we have undertaken is not the work of a day, nor of a month, nor of a year. It may last many years, a century perhaps, but in our ranks the soldier dies, and the fight continues.

Now then, in order to secure to us a Pope according to our own heart, it is necessary to fashion for that Pope a generation worthy of the kingdom of which we dream. Leave on one side old age and middle life, go to the youth, and if possible, even to the children.

The ultimate goal of freemasonry is the public reign of Satan in the world. St. Maximilian Kolbe testified in his Militia of the Immaculata magazine that in 1917 he had seen freemasons march in St. Peter’s Square flying a banner that read, “Satan will rule in the Vatican.”

In a Japanese November 1935 issue of the magazine, St. Kolbe wrote, “Years later, the Freemasons in Rome began to demonstrate openly and belligerently against the Church. They placed the black standard of the “Giordano Brunisti” under the windows of the Vatican. On this standard the archangel, St. Michael, was depicted lying under the feet of the triumphant Lucifer … Right then I conceived the idea of organizing an active society to counteract Freemasonry and other slaves of Lucifer.”

He elaborated in 1939, “A reckless hand felt no repugnance in writing: Satan will rule in the Vatican and the Pope will serve him … This mortal hatred for the Church of Jesus Christ and for His Vicar was not just a prank on the part of deranged individuals but a systematic action proceeding from the principle of Freemasonry: Destroy all religion, whatever it may be, especially the Catholic religion.”

However outrageous this may seem to some Catholics, this scenario was also predicted by the Blessed Mother in a message to the children of La Salette in 1846. In 1879, the secret of La Salette was published as written by one of the visionaries, Mélanie Calvat, lamenting the corruption of so many priests, and foretelling that “Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the antichrist.” [1] 

Now, in 2024, 10 years into the pontificate of Pope Francis, we can finally make sense of Foster Bailey’s prediction that the Church may become a “leader in a Christian religious revival,” as well as the freemasons’ prediction that the pope would serve Satan. Over the past decade, Francis has given sign after sign after sign that he is not really interested in upholding Catholic doctrine and practice, but rather in undermining it in favor of a less “rigid,” more “inclusive,” faith.

He has done this by:

He has also plainly aligned with the masonic view of religions in his statement that “the most important role of religions is that of promoting the culture of encounter, along with the promotion of true education in responsible behavior in caring for creation.” No mention of God, of Christ, or salvation.

If any doubt remains as to whether Francis has a masonic bent, consider that his election was immediately praised by Grand Master Gustavo Raffi of the Grand Orient Masonic Lodge of Italy, who said, “Fraternity and dialogue are his first concrete words: perhaps nothing in the Church will be as it was before.” 

Is he the long-awaited pope “according to the heart” of the freemasons? 

He checks all the boxes.

Features of the antichrist and his ‘New Age’ deception

Just as naturalism and religious indifferentism are merely means to the end of Lucifer worship for those initiated into freemasonry, so are they in the freemasons’ plan for a one-world religion. 

The Baileys help show that this religion will be packaged in new-age practices and beliefs, which will be embraced by the Antichrist who will lead this religion.

Under Pope Francis, the Vatican has already signaled that it is on board with such new-age religion, as anti-Catholic as it is. In 2018, a Vatican conference on “How Science, Technology and the 21st Century Will Impact Culture and Society” featured a talk by pop star Katy Perry on transcendental meditation as well as a talk by New Age guru Deepak Chopra. Perry is a particularly disturbing choice as a guest speaker because she has included themes of lesbianism and cannibalism in her music.

Alice Bailey, in her 1948 book “The Reappearance of the Christ,” explains some of the features of the “Christ” to come and the one-world religion she says will emerge after his appearance. It is noteworthy that, just as the antichrist is traditionally understood, Bailey describes him as the “second coming” of Jesus Christ who became incarnate 2,000 years ago. However, he will have notable differences, she says.

Alice Bailey claims that “undue emphasis” was laid upon “Jesus Christ’s” divinity, and also that man himself is “divine,” essentially undermining the very meaning and uniqueness of Jesus Christ as the Son of God. She states that today, “There is a growing and developing belief that Christ is in us, as He was in the Master Jesus.” This is a first huge red flag.

She also explains that, in keeping with religious indifferentism, he will (at least initially) put all religions on the same plane, writing, “The Christ has no religious barriers in His consciousness. It matters not to Him of what faith a man may call himself.” She even calls “the Buddha the spiritual leader of the East, and the Christ, the spiritual leader of the West.”

What will his proclaimed mission be? According to Bailey, it will be essentially world peace and “international cooperation”: “His major task is surely the establishing of right human relations in every department of human living,” going on to state that “when the United Nations has emerged into factual and actual power, the welfare of the world will then be assured.”

“What is that welfare but love in action? What are right human relations but love among men, groups and nations? What is international cooperation but love on a world scale? Those are the things which the love of God in Christ expressed … ”

Thus, the Antichrist’s conception of “love” will emphasize world peace — which is of course a good in and of itself — but this drive for “peace” will be used as a pretext for a one-world government, which both Baileys discussed directly.

Alice Bailey says that unlike Jesus Christ, this man will “not be a ‘man of sorrows'” and “will not be a silent, pensive figure.” Also, “this time, He will play His part, not in obscurity as He previously did, but before the eyes of the entire world … because of the prevalence of the radio, television and the rapidity of communication, His part will be watched by all … ”

But didn’t Jesus say that in his real Second Coming, he would come “in the clouds of heaven with much power and majesty?” Alice Bailey attempts to dismiss this Scripture as meaningless in an age of airplanes, writing, “He will come indeed ‘in the clouds of the air’ as the Christian Scriptures say, but of what great interest is that when millions come and go in the clouds each hour of the day and of the night?” It’s a rather weak refutation of Scripture’s real meaning, but it will unfortunately still dupe people ready to embrace the Antichrist.

Finally, Alice Bailey offers a disturbing prediction that suggests that the Antichrist may possess the minds of his followers. She claims that the “Hierarchy” will “impres(s) the minds of enlightened men everywhere by spiritual ideas embodying the new truths” and “by the overshadowing of all world disciples and the New Group of World Servers by the Christ Himself.”

Could this perhaps be through a chip implant without which people will be unable to buy or sell (the “mark of the beast”), as foretold in the Book of the Apocalypse?

Let us remember the words of Christ regarding these times:

“Take heed that no man seduce you: For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ: and they will seduce many.” (Matthew 24: 4-5)

“ … Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Behold I have told it to you, beforehand. 

 If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not. For as lightning cometh out of the east, and appeareth even into the west: so shall the coming of the Son of man be.” (Matthew 24: 23-27)

REFERENCES

[1] Johannes Maria Höcht, Die Große Botschaft von La Salette [The Great Message of La Salette], Stein am Rhein 2004 (8th ed.), p. 161.


TOPICS: Catholic; History
KEYWORDS: antipope; excathedra; fosterbailey; frankenchurch; freemasonry; fringe; masonictemple; occult; romancatholic; romancatholicism; theosophist
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To: ebb tide

I’m sorry that you can’t separate the Institution that seeks world power from the believers within the Church.

You would have to believe that the Institution controls God Himself in order to believe what the Institution preaches represents Christianity in any way or shape or form. You would have to believe that the Pope can change times and laws in order to make the arguement the Institution represents God.

The Bible does predict that the Institution will make the claim to do so, but thats’ because the Bible has predicted that the Instiution will abandon its original mandate in favour of one of its own.


41 posted on 03/24/2024 10:31:57 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Do you know why I'm always right? It's because I know everything. )
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To: ebb tide

Soon is relative, I admit. But it is the only prophecy left.


42 posted on 03/24/2024 10:32:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Do you know why I'm always right? It's because I know everything. )
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To: AnonymousConservative

No, that would be the Catholic Church under Bergoglio— definitely Anti-Freemasonry for centuries. See: Jesuits, and not stupid movies about them.

See: Nazis vs. Freemasons— Nazis being Socialist Leftists instead of what Communists have tried to position them as— Right wing “conservative”. Nope.

Then see Communists vs. anyone— any of the above and you have your answer.


43 posted on 03/24/2024 10:35:33 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ebb tide

Great photo. The article is driveling nonsense. Would take a look at the WEF and Klaus Schwab and Soros— truly evil sobs, who direct their attacks against all spiritual leaders of the world regardless of their beliefs. World Socialism and Communism walk in lockstep. They do take an interest in using the discipline of Islamofascism to insert their goals- Communists have been doing this since before WwII.


44 posted on 03/24/2024 10:40:11 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ebb tide; Jonty30

>> You said Christ is coming soon.

I am reading this thread with great interest. Many, many good points on it and I value both of your comments on this thread and on FR in general.

As to this question, Jesus Himself said 2000 years ago he is coming “soon”. The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John chapter 12 verse 22:

“Look, I am coming soon, bringing my reward with me to repay all people according to their deeds.”

(That’s NLT and others; KJV and others translate it “come quickly”)


45 posted on 03/25/2024 12:37:33 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: John S Mosby; Jonty30; ebb tide

>> WEF and Klaus Schwab and Soros— truly evil sobs, who direct their attacks against all spiritual leaders of the world

As transhumanists, the WEF cabal does not believe in any deity but man himself. However they have left no doubt that it’s important to the success of their cause to co-opt a religious leader with mass institutional appeal. And in the current world, there is only one of those that is appropriate to their purposes: Bergoglio.

The scales are so thick on Bergoglio’s eyes that he has allowed himself to be duped into going along. His marxist tendencies softened him up for the task. In my view, as with Judas, “satan has entered him”. Unless he is led to repentance he will pay a heavy price in the Judgement.

But this is in no way an indictment of catholicism in general.

Anyone who thinks that the Catholic church is a monolithic organization that marches in lockstep with Bergoglio needs to spend a little time at remnantnewspaper.com! Or LifeSiteNews. Or https://stream.org/author/johnzmirak/ . &etc


46 posted on 03/25/2024 12:51:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Again, I will reiterate myself, the Catholic laymen and most priests are good and honest people. They are not in any way, that I understand the Bible, condemned for being Catholic.

We all have errors in doctrine that, if were to be judged by them without the Christ we would be lost. I have absolutely no problem with anybody who follows the Christ and any disagreements over doctrine that I might have with them. Christ papers over our errors and have saved us.

Our institutions have been infiltrated with the Spirit and doctrines of the Anti-Christ and no institution is going to be spared as we head towards the Last Days. The institutions are lost and we must be ready to flee from them, because they will be used to prosecute and persecute God’s people.

All we can do is study the Bible for ourselves and get ready.

At the levels of Bergoglio and his cardinals, they are infected with the spirit of the AntiChrist.
My understand of the Third Fatima, from Father Malachi, is that the Church is going to be given over to Satan fully, which is why they won’t release the Third Fatima in any official capacity.


47 posted on 03/25/2024 1:00:21 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Do you know why I'm always right? It's because I know everything. )
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To: Jonty30

Understood.

And I reiterate: while I don’t necessarily agree with you in every minute detail, I greatly respect your opinion and value your contribution.

FRegards and Blessings!


48 posted on 03/25/2024 2:00:41 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: algore

Agree.. I myself predict things will happen and that would make me the most accurate prolific prophecy predictor in history... thank you very much.


49 posted on 03/25/2024 4:36:02 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Jonty30

>> ...he [Pope Francis] and his Cardinals and Bishops are making use of knowledge that isn’t Biblical and they got this knowledge from somewhere. <<

Sin and knowledge about it are not secret—there is sin and attraction to sin in every man’s heart. While gnostic (secret knowledge) societies like the Masons may advocate sin, it doesn’t mean that sin is some sort of secret knowledge. They just position stuff like that to make it more attractive to gullible people.


50 posted on 03/25/2024 4:55:36 AM PDT by Chicory
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To: ebb tide

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This is largely why the coming religious deception is generally shrouded in obscurity, unlike the political and economic facets of the NWO.
.....

It’s actually pretty clear..
And the deceit isn’t coming. It’s here.

Passover, Unleavened Bread, First fruits
Or
Good Friday, Holy Saturn day, Easter Sun day

Those two sets of three days in a row are not the same.

And Islam,Judaism and Christianity all agree that the latter is the truth while the scriptures say the former is the Truth.

Don’t exactly know when the Father’s Passover was changed to good Friday, but it helped deceive the whole world.

And that deceit continues today.
Which is very prophetic..


51 posted on 03/25/2024 7:31:14 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t say Catholic Church. You didn’t read Catholic Church.

I’ll tell you now who I was referring to.

I was talking about the secret societies. The same ones President Kennedy spoke against.


52 posted on 03/25/2024 7:38:28 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: ebb tide

“The Catholic martyrs died trying to preach the truth to non-Catholics.”

And a lot of non-Catholics were martyred trying to preach the truth to Catholics. My ancestor was one of them.


53 posted on 03/25/2024 8:04:18 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: algore

***Lots of people have predicted lots of things.***

I still remember 1966 and the book A GIFT OF PROPHECY by Ruth Montgomery about the future prophecies of Jean Dixon. What a hoot as most never came true at all! (Those few that did simply means “Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while)
On August 08, 1974, THE STAR tabloid had a front page screed “JEAN DIXON SAYS NIXON WILL NOT RESIGN!” It hit the news stands the week Nixon resigned. Ten years later her Publicity Department claimed she HAD predicted the resignation.
None of the predictions of another fake, CRISWELL PREDICTS ever came to pass.


54 posted on 03/25/2024 8:38:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Jonty30

If it is De Fide Catholic teaching, they got it from Tradition passed on from the the Apostles, as learned from Christ Himself, and from the Holy Spirit, who He promised us He would send to teach us all Truth.

If you’re referring to the blatantly non-Catholic nonsense that Francis is notoriously promoting, then yes, God only knows where it is coming from. I suspect you and I both could make a pretty good guess.


55 posted on 03/25/2024 11:02:34 AM PDT by moonhawk (Jeffrey Epstein did't kill himself; George Floyd did.)
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To: reasonisfaith; ebb tide; Jonty30; All

Please don’t confuse “The intitution” (Catholic Church) with Bergoglio. The two are not synonymous.

As for commies, socia;lists, NWO types—Schwab, Soros, Gates, et al, they are all offshoots or brainchilds of the occultists and Freemasons, which are themselves controlled by Satan and his Demons.

Understanding this helps simplify the discussion. And I need to keep it very simple, as I am a very simple man.

Peace to all who love Christ. Pray for the unification of His Body. His TRUE nody.


56 posted on 03/25/2024 11:38:25 AM PDT by moonhawk (Jeffrey Epstein did't kill himself; George Floyd did.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Sorry. But I don’t believe you, no matter how many times you repeat it.


57 posted on 03/25/2024 12:33:55 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“But I don’t believe you, no matter how many times you repeat it.”

So...?


58 posted on 03/25/2024 12:53:48 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Just an FYI. It was you who posted to me.


59 posted on 03/25/2024 1:01:21 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: MayflowerMadam
And a lot of non-Catholics were martyred trying to preach the truth to Catholics.

Non-Catholics don't have the Truth; they never did.

60 posted on 03/25/2024 1:19:43 PM PDT by ebb tide
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