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Why Christians Don't Understand Non-Christians
ArGee | 1/3/01 | ArGee

Posted on 01/03/2002 11:19:13 AM PST by ArGee

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To: ArGee
A couple more comments: the title is misleading because before reading the parable it sounds like it was composed by an unbeliever. Also, some of the earlier posters had it right -- God will not give up on the outsiders, but when the banquet is over He will, with great resignation, consign them in perpetuity to a place outside the banquet hall.

You can also stress the notion that all they have to do is choose the correct door and they are admitted, and that it is their poor choice that makes them so hapless.

21 posted on 01/03/2002 11:48:38 AM PST by tom h
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To: kezekiel
The problem for non-believers is that the story presumes a direct encounter between all the potential guests and the rich patron.

Thank you for your kind words. Of course, I believe that all men (and women) have the opportunity for such a direct encounter. Not a physical encounter, but a direct one. Jesus has promised to come in to any heart that opens to Him. Any heart. No exclusions. No conditions.

Revelation 3:20 (NIV) 20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. (emphasis mine)
Shalom.
22 posted on 01/03/2002 11:49:19 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
Sorry, but your story is a poor analogy. Theology expects me to believe in a guy throwing a banquet with no indepedently verifiable evidence.

I'm not buying it.

23 posted on 01/03/2002 11:50:16 AM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: kezekiel
It's a nice parable, drawing on Jesus's parable of the wedding feast and the invited/uninvited guests.

Oh, yeah. His parable was trying to point out that those who should really have known who He was were not beyond losing their heritage. Christ was trying to say something very pointed to the leaders of Israel.

Shalom.

24 posted on 01/03/2002 11:50:49 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
The story could also include a group of people with Megaphones standing at the proper entrance, urging people to go to the locked door, and a group of people warning everyone not to go anywhere near the tent.
25 posted on 01/03/2002 11:51:14 AM PST by ConservativeNJdad
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To: ArGee
Why do you write God as G-d?
26 posted on 01/03/2002 11:51:34 AM PST by Codie
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To: L,TOWM
You forgot to include all the people that hear the advertising for the banquet, ...

Every story has a point. Some have several, but I find those harder to follow.

And harder to write.

You are welcome to write the story of those people. No sarcasm implied.

Shalom.

27 posted on 01/03/2002 11:52:46 AM PST by ArGee
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To: sanchmo
and take up thy shield of faith - the flaming arrows will soon start flying your way.

Shields UP!

Thank you.

Shalom.

28 posted on 01/03/2002 11:53:33 AM PST by ArGee
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To: ArGee
the door is closed permanently when we face G-d in judgement after death...

We are certianly in agreement on that point... My only disagreement is that our Lord will never display the human emotion of exasperation the rich man showed with those who cannot follow a simple plan (until, as you point out, it's too late)...

29 posted on 01/03/2002 11:55:24 AM PST by vrwinger
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To: ArGee
Howdy all,

It would seem to me that the fable would be more accurate if the banquet being offered was not only the best food available, but the only food available. And if it was indeed the only food available, then requiring the potential diners to use a particular door is non-sensical. If indeed God is omniscient/omnipotent, then there is no reason for a single entry to maintain order. It would be ridiculous to assume that God cannot handle someone coming in the side entrance. There's no reasonable explanation, short of arbitrary fiat for the one entry rule.

And after all, isn't the important thing that we all go to the feast, and not the route we take to get there?

31 posted on 01/03/2002 11:57:49 AM PST by stingrayfm
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To: ArGee
It is really much simpler than that.

Cristianity requires a person to believe a certain way or they burn in hell for eternity.

This fear makes Christians intolerant of other belief systems (bigotry).

It is not that Christians cannot understand other belief systems; They do not want to.

32 posted on 01/03/2002 11:58:36 AM PST by eFudd
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To: lexcorp
Now somone getting closer to a more accurate analogy!
33 posted on 01/03/2002 12:00:15 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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To: proud patriot
We can't relate to non-Christians because we can't understand why a person would want to spend eternity in hell.

So a person becomes a Christian, only to escape an eternity in Hell?

That is the most shallow reason for coming to Christ, if you'll permit my saying so. We don't come to Christ because we want to escape torment. We come to Christ because we want Him, for His sake. Anything else is selfishness on our part.

34 posted on 01/03/2002 12:00:21 PM PST by Darth Sidious
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To: ArGee
Well, a lot of us (agnostic) would have an alternative story, one in which they had never seen this rich man, but were told about him by different groups- The rich man's banquet would sound like a pretty good deal, and very generous, but the different groups would all disagree about who he was, where he was, and how one should get to the banquet.

one group would say the rich man told them he had chosen them to be his special friends, but that he expected them to eat a special diet to retain his favor, another group would say that the rich man's son loved them so much he was willing to die for them, and for everybody else as well, and that all you had to do to get into the banquet was acknowledge the sacrifice the son had made.

Another group would say the rich man will feed you if you pray five times a day facing a certain city.

none of these groups would be able to take you to the place where the feast was being held, and show you the banquet, but they would all be very very sure the place existed, and that you would be welcomed if you showed up, and asked to be let in, as long as you had done what the rich man wanted.

these groups would also tell you the other groups were evil, or at best mistaken, and would never get any food. Occasionally one of these groups would murder a bunch of folks from another group, and say the rich man told them to.

For your parable to be accurate, we would have to assume that God reveals himself to us directly on a pretty regular basis- he has not done so to me; (no sarcasm, just statement of fact)if he does so I would be happy to accept his invitation.

35 posted on 01/03/2002 12:01:10 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: tom h
Thank you for your kind words.

See my post 27. The invitation I gave to L,TOWM applies to you also, in all seriousness.

Shalom.

36 posted on 01/03/2002 12:01:53 PM PST by ArGee
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To: francisandbeans
Perhaps you can tell some of the Biblical Christians around here that the enterance may very well include LDSers and Catholics. As well as not affilliated with a Religion Christians.

Very good point FaB. I grew up with the Catholic Church and spent 12 years in Catholic schools, yet I was always taught that I was a Christian. There are two things the Biblical Christians tend to forget. Jesus Christ was born a Jew and he had an extremely high tolerance for all people as long as they believed in his Father.

37 posted on 01/03/2002 12:02:48 PM PST by Gabz
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To: fourdeuce82d
For your parable to be accurate, we would have to assume that God reveals himself to us directly on a pretty regular basis- he has not done so to me; (no sarcasm, just statement of fact)if he does so I would be happy to accept his invitation.

Very well said. I've never seen an invitation, let alone the guy running the banquet! All I've ever seen are third and fourth hand accounts of possible invitations. That's not good enough in my book!

40 posted on 01/03/2002 12:07:29 PM PST by LuvItOrLeaveIt
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