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Mary's Relationship with the Trinity
EWTN ^ | January 1996 | Pope John Paul II

Posted on 06/16/2003 8:41:08 PM PDT by Salvation

MARY’S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TRINITY
Pope John Paul II

Our Lady, who was granted the dignity of being the Mother of God, is also the favoured daughter of the Father and the temple of the Holy Spirit

Mary "is endowed with the high office and dignity of the Mother of the Son of God, and therefore she is also the beloved daughter of the Father and the temple of the Holy Spirit" (Lumen gentium, n. 53). With this quote from the Second Vatican Council, the Holy Father expressed in concise form the Trinitarian dimension of Marian doctrine, which was the subject of his catechesis at the General Audience of Wednesday, 10 January. Here is a translation of his address, which was the 11th in the series on the Blessed Virgin and was given in Italian.

1. The eighth chapter of the Constitution Lumen gentium shows in the mystery of Christ the absolutely necessary reference to Marian doctrine. In this regard, the first words of the Introduction are significant: "Wishing in his supreme goodness and wisdom to effect the redemption of the world, 'when the fullness of time came, God sent his Son, born of a woman ... that we might receive the adoption of sons' (Gal 4:4-5)" (Lumen gentium, n. 52). This son is the Messiah awaited by the people of the Old Covenant, sent by the Father at a decisive moment of history, the "fullness of time" (Gal 4:4), which coincides with his birth in our world from a woman. She who brought the eternal Son of God to humanity can never be separated from him who is found at the centre of the divine plan carried out in history.

The primacy of Christ is shown forth in the Church, his Mystical Body: in her "the faithful are joined to Christ the Head and are in communion with all his saints" (cf. Lumen gentium, n. 52). It is Christ who draws all men to himself. Since in her maternal role she is closely united with her Son, Mary helps direct the gaze and heart of believers towards him.

She is the way that leads to Christ: indeed, she who "at the message of the angel received the Word of God in her heart and in her body" (Lumen gentium, n. 53) shows us how to receive into our lives the Son come down from heaven, teaching us to make Jesus the centre and the supreme "law" of our existence.

A unique bond between Mary and the Holy Spirit

2. Mary also helps us discover, at the origin of the whole work of salvation, the sovereign action of the Father who calls men to become sons in the one Son. Recalling the very beautiful expressions of the Letter to the Ephesians: "God, who is rich in mercy, out of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ" (Eph 2:4), the Council gives God the title "most merciful": the Son "born of a woman" is thus seen as the fruit of the Father's mercy and enables us to understand better how this Woman is the "mother of mercy".

In the same context, the Council also calls God "most wise", suggesting a particular attention to the close link between Mary and the divine wisdom, which in its mysterious plan willed the Virgin's motherhood.

3. The Council's text also reminds us of the unique bond uniting Mary with the Holy Spirit, using the words of the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed which we recite in the Eucharistic liturgy: "For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man".

In expressing the unchanging faith of the Church, the Council reminds us that the marvellous incarnation of the Son took place in the Virgin Mary's womb without man's co-operation, by the power of the Holy Spirit.

The Introduction to the eighth chapter of Lumen gentium thus shows in a Trinitarian perspective an essential dimension of Marian doctrine. Everything in fact comes from the will of the Father, who has sent his Son into the world, revealing him to men and establishing him as the Head of the Church and the centre of history. This is a plan that was fulfilled by the Incarnation, the work of the Holy Spirit, but with the essential co-operation of a woman, the Virgin Mary, who thus became an integral part in the economy of communicating the Trinity to mankind.

4. Mary's threefold relationship with the divine Persons is confirmed in precise words and with a description of the characteristic relationship which links the Mother of the Lord to the Church: "She is endowed with the high office and dignity of the Mother of the Son of God, and therefore she is also the beloved daughter of the Father and the temple of the Holy Spirit" (Lumen gentium, n. 53).

Mary's fundamental dignity is that of being "Mother of the Son", which is expressed in Christian doctrine and devotion with the title "Mother of God".

This is a surprising term, which shows the humility of God's only-begotten Son in his Incarnation and, in connection with it, the most high privilege granted a creature who was called to give him birth in the flesh.

Mother of the Son, Mary is the "beloved daughter of the Father" in a unique way. She has been granted an utterly special likeness between her motherhood and the divine fatherhood.

And again: every Christian is a "temple of the Holy Spirit", according to the Apostle Paul's expression (1 Cor 6:19). But this assertion takes on an extraordinary meaning in Mary: in her the relationship with the Holy Spirit is enriched with a spousal dimension. I recalled this in the Encyclical Redemptoris Mater: "The Holy Spirit had already come down upon her, and she became his faithful spouse at the Annunciation, welcoming the Word of the true God..." (n. 26).

Mary's dignity surpasses that of every creature

5. Mary's privileged relationship with the Trinity therefore confers on her a dignity which far surpasses that of every other creature. The Council recalls this explicitly: because of this "gift of sublime grace" Mary "far surpasses all creatures" (Lumen gentium, n. 53). However, this most high dignity does not hinder Mary's solidarity with each of us. The Constitution Lumen gentium goes on to say: "But, being of the race of Adam, she is at the same time also united to all those who are to be saved" and she has been "redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son" (ibid.).

Here we see the authentic meaning of Mary's privileges and of her extraordinary relationship with the Trinity: their purpose is to enable her to co-operate in the salvation of the human race. The immeasurable greatness of the Lord's Mother therefore remains a gift of God's love for all men. By proclaiming her "blessed" (Lk 1:48), generations praise the "great things" (Lk 1:49) the Almighty has done in her for humanity, "in remembrance of his mercy" (Lk 1:54). 


Taken from:
L'Osservatore Romano
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17 January 1996, page 11

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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***No, I haven't. I said you are a follower of Calvinism in Theology, not of John Calvin. You've said as much yourself on this thread, claiming to be a four point calvinist. I can't misrepresent you by calling you by a title you yourself used "A dispensational, 4 point calvinist, memorialist credo-baptist".***

I disagree with a number of points of Calvinism (Calvinistic theology) as well.

Calvinist theologians are generally not 4 point Calvinists.
Calvinist theologians are not dispensationalists.
Calvinist theologians differ from Zwinglian memorialists.
Calvinist theologians are mostly paedo-baptists.

So, yes you have.

***How can this chaos be what Christ intended to bequeath to us as a legacy? ***

Is this a reference to the AmChurch?
161 posted on 06/18/2003 9:48:53 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***That being said, I accept your phrase as a statement of goodwill in fraternal quibbling, and return the same to you.***

It is indeed a statement of good will. I also desire God to bless you and ask that He do so.
162 posted on 06/18/2003 9:52:53 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Actually, Pope Piel, you are going to need to learn how to give the Epsicopal Blessing. These simple Protestant formulae won't satisfy the faithful from a man aspiring to the Pontificate.

V. Blessed be the name of the Lord.
R. Both now and forever.
V. Our help + is in the name of the Lord.
R. Who made the heavens and the earth.
V. May Almighty God bless you, in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, + and of the Holy Spirit.
R. Amen.

163 posted on 06/18/2003 9:54:50 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***Actually, Pope Piel, you are going to need to learn how to give the Epsicopal Blessing.***

I'll count on you to coach me.
164 posted on 06/18/2003 9:56:32 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
I'll count on you to coach me.

Papal Master of Ceremonies would be an honor.

165 posted on 06/18/2003 10:08:59 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: drstevej
Is this a reference to the AmChurch?

Things look dire in dioceses like Rochester and Albany, or the trendy liberal parishes. But never fear, the Church will right herself and overcome, just as she did the Arian heresy. Lets just hope that the American diocese come along for the righting, and are not lost forever to the faith like the Titular Sees of North Africa and Anatolia.

166 posted on 06/18/2003 10:11:00 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***Papal Master of Ceremonies would be an honor.***

Done.
167 posted on 06/18/2003 10:20:01 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***and are not lost forever to the faith like the Titular Sees of North Africa and Anatolia.***

Note to future Papal Master of Ceremonies....

Be careful with the term "titular" when addressing junior highers, the guffawing disrupts the needed solemnity.
168 posted on 06/18/2003 10:22:00 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Luke 1:46 And Mary said: "My soul glorifies the Lord
47 and my spirit rejoices in God my SAVIOR,

Those who perform the will of God to perfection don't need a Savior. Romans 1 is clear on the point that ALL mankind have sinned.

Many are referred to as "blessed" in the Bible, I think it a FAR stretch to assume that because Mary is referred to as being "blessed" that that implies perfection. She was indeed blessed, no other person in history got the priviledge of being around the Son of God 24/7 for 30 years. But perfection, nope, don't see it at all. And, btw, if she were perfect, why is she rebuked by Jesus on more than one occation? hmm.
169 posted on 06/18/2003 10:26:07 AM PDT by John_burchett
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To: drstevej
Imagine, Fishiness, if there was a Titular See of the Grand Tetons!
170 posted on 06/18/2003 11:03:28 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
***Imagine, Fishiness, if there was a Titular See of the Grand Tetons!***

After my planned reforms of the seminaries, we may have to drape the Tetons (perhaps Dolly Parton could loan us a few of her old bras) lest the new ranks of priests be tempted.

Anticipation of need is a mark of a visionary Pope.
171 posted on 06/18/2003 11:37:48 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: sandyeggo
There is no such thing as a Novus Church.

Sure, there is, in my opinion. It was formulated by modernists during Vatican Council II and signed off by Pope Paul VI in 1969. It is proud of it’s novelties and even names them Novus: the “New” Mass; the “New” American Bible, The “New” Catechism. It’s even added new, but optional, mysteries to Our Lady’s Rosary.

It's no longer the "Faith of our fathers".

173 posted on 06/18/2003 4:58:59 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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To: Land of the Irish
New Vulgate, New Code of Canon Law, New Sacramental Rites, New Raccolta, New Laws on Indulgences, New Orientations, etc.
174 posted on 06/18/2003 6:50:38 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: NYer
Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you

Could it also be said that Gabriel is refering to Jesus as the Grace he was refering to?

175 posted on 06/18/2003 7:06:07 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
I doubt it since MAry was not pregnant at the time this was said.
176 posted on 06/18/2003 7:13:15 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: sandyeggo
Your opinion is not the same as mine, or the same as the next guy's, or the next guy's. It's private judgement.

I don't consider my opinion my judgement. I avoid judgements for I have no juristiction. That's the whole reason I stated "in my opinion". Care to comment on the rest of the my post about "novus".

It is, moreover, Our will that Catholics should abstain from certain appellations which have recently been brought into use to distinguish one group of Catholics from another. They are to be avoided not only as profane novelties of words, out of harmony with both truth and justice, but also because they give rise to great trouble and confusion among Catholics.

Speaks volumes.

178 posted on 06/18/2003 7:52:42 PM PDT by Land of the Irish
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