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End the War on Drugs [Ron Paul]
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex., 14th District ^ | 2009-03-30

Posted on 03/30/2009 6:49:14 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

We have recently heard many shocking stories of brutal killings and ruthless violence related to drug cartels warring with Mexican and US officials. It is approaching the fever pitch of a full blown crisis. Unfortunately, the administration is not likely to waste this opportunity to further expand government. Hopefully, we can take a deep breath and look at history for the optimal way to deal with this dangerous situation, which is not unprecedented.

Alcohol prohibition in the 1920’s brought similar violence, gangs, lawlessness, corruption and brutality. The reason for the violence was not that making and selling alcohol was inherently dangerous. The violence came about because of the creation of a brutal black market which also drove profits through the roof. These profits enabled criminals like Al Capone to become incredibly wealthy, and militantly defensive of that wealth. Al Capone saw the repeal of Prohibition as a great threat, and indeed smuggling operations and gangland violence fell apart after repeal. Today, picking up a bottle of wine for dinner is a relatively benign transaction, and beer trucks travel openly and peacefully along their distribution routes.

Similarly today, the best way to fight violent drug cartels would be to pull the rug out from under their profits by bringing these transactions out into the sunlight. People who, unwisely, buy drugs would hardly opt for the back alley criminal dealer as a source, if a coffeehouse-style dispensary was an option. Moreover, a law-abiding dispensary is likely to check ID’s and refuse sale to minors, as bars and ABC stores tend to do very diligently. Think of all the time and resources law enforcement could save if they could instead focus on violent crimes, instead of this impossible nanny-state mandate of saving people from themselves!

If these reasons don’t convince the drug warriors, I would urge them to go back to the Constitution and consider where there is any authority to prohibit private personal choices like this. All of our freedoms – the freedom of religion and assembly, the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, the right to be free from unnecessary government searches and seizures – stem from the precept that you own yourself and are responsible for your own choices. Prohibition laws negate self-ownership and are an absolute affront to the principles of freedom. I disagree vehemently with the recreational use of drugs, but at the same time, if people are only free to make good decisions, they are not truly free. In any case, states should decide for themselves how to handle these issues and the federal government should respect their choices.

My great concern is that instead of dealing deliberatively with the actual problems, Congress will be pressed again to act quickly without much thought or debate. I can’t think of a single problem we haven’t made worse that way. The panic generated by the looming crisis in Mexico should not be redirected into curtailing more rights, especially our second amendment rights, as seems to be in the works. Certainly, more gun laws in response to this violence will only serve to disarm lawful citizens. This is something to watch out for and stand up against. We have escalated the drug war enough to see it only escalates the violence and profits associated with drugs. It is time to try freedom instead.


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To: ChrisInAR
You smoke pot with your friends?

How old are you?

61 posted on 03/30/2009 7:59:58 PM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: mommya

Not your reality, in podunk


62 posted on 03/30/2009 8:01:26 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol
You know exactly what that means. Would you want your son or daughter in a car driven by a pot head

No.

I don't want them in a car driven by a drunk, either.

What in the world does that have to do with legalisation?

63 posted on 03/30/2009 8:02:50 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: SoCalPol

What is podunk?


64 posted on 03/30/2009 8:03:14 PM PDT by mommya
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To: SoCalPol
Not your reality, in podunk

LOL, you use that line alot, don't you?

65 posted on 03/30/2009 8:03:34 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

A few years back in Phoenix a family of four was killed by a drug dealer. They didn’t do drugs, but a family member did. Four innocent lives, murdered. Two tortured. One raped.

Yep, keeping drugs illegal is the solution.

Seriously, there’s no way out of this crap. I just believe that the drug forces should turn into immigration cops with catapults that hurl the people back to Mexico.


66 posted on 03/30/2009 8:03:38 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Things were better when cigarette companies could advertise and Lawyers could not.)
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To: Chunga
You smoke pot with your friends?

Well D'UH!!!!!!!! w/ who else should it be?

BTW, I'm 46.

67 posted on 03/30/2009 8:04:39 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: SoCalPol

What do you mean by pothead?

Someone who smokes - or someone who has just smoked or what - anyone who has ever smoked?

When someone says the word pothead - I usually think they have no real clue about “pot.” It is a silly term and it won’t get you taken seriously.


68 posted on 03/30/2009 8:06:51 PM PDT by mommya
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To: rabscuttle385
Hey Ron, how about ending the war against Capitalism and Freedom.
69 posted on 03/30/2009 8:07:46 PM PDT by MaxMax (RINO=RAT!)
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To: mommya; SoCalPol
What is podunk?

Any place other than Southern California, apparently. He says to that everyone who disagrees with him, I guess mean ing that if you don't live in Southern California, you haven't experienced enough to have a valid opinion on the subject.

A bizarre argument, but he seems to like it.

70 posted on 03/30/2009 8:08:15 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: mommya
When someone says the word pothead - I usually think they have no real clue about “pot.” It is a silly term and it won’t get you taken seriously.

Yep. The analog with respect to alcohol is a "drunk," but they seem to use it to describe anyone who has ever smoked pot.

71 posted on 03/30/2009 8:10:34 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Win the war on drugs, implement the death penalty for drug users.


72 posted on 03/30/2009 8:10:54 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: philman_36
I love the ignorance!

I'll bet you do. There is a big difference between crystal methamphetamine and Desoxyn. Desoxyn is not prepared to be smoked. That makes a big difference for a tweeker. So, I'll rephrase my question if that will make you happy...I’d love to ask Ron where the SMOKABLE meth should come from to be sold in the “coffee-house dispensaries”.
73 posted on 03/30/2009 8:14:42 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN
And just to make sure I understand you what you are saying...we have a serious drug problem in this country...and if make drugs legal and cheaper...we'll have fewer addicts. Is that truly your argument?

That is not my argument. I only showed a correlation, not necessarily a causal relation.

I'm arguing that a hundred years of drug prohibition cannot be shown to have lowered addiction rates in the US.

74 posted on 03/30/2009 8:15:08 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: mommya
What do you mean by pothead? Someone who smokes - or someone who has just smoked or what - anyone who has ever smoked? When someone says the word pothead - I usually think they have no real clue about “pot.” It is a silly term and it won’t get you taken seriously.

Potheads don't take much of anything seriously.
75 posted on 03/30/2009 8:16:50 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: upsdriver
Win the war on drugs, implement the death penalty for drug users.
That's right! Line those aspirin users up for the firing squad! Hang the partakers of cough syrups! Electrocute everyone who uses any OTC drugs!
Drugs, drugs, drugs...the inanimate bogeyman!

My, how rational your argument sounds.

76 posted on 03/30/2009 8:17:05 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: OCCASparky
Sorry, but how would the DOJ know when no standard definition of drug addiction even EXISTED then; ergo, no way to define, identify, and treat drug addicts?

Ask the DOJ. It's not my fault if the dummies failed to notice that their own reports point out the failure of the WOD.

77 posted on 03/30/2009 8:19:25 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Trailerpark Badass

When people get a taste of Obama’s healthcare fiasco, those ‘medicines and elixirs’ are going to come back into fashion. Rather than the back of a horse-drawn wagon, they’ll be buying it from the trunk of a BMW.


78 posted on 03/30/2009 8:20:34 PM PDT by budwiesest (Unlike Michelle, I used to be.)
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To: MaxMax
Hey Ron, how about ending the war against Capitalism and Freedom.

He's doing the best he can, but unfortunately he's only 1 out of 535 on Capitol Hill. Add to the fact that the MSM ignores him & the "conservative" Establishment despises him....that's why he needs your help, too!

79 posted on 03/30/2009 8:21:43 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Ken H
I'm arguing that a hundred years of drug prohibition cannot be shown to have lowered addiction rates in the US.

Likewise, it can be argued that drug prohibition has kept addiction rates lower than what they would have been if they had been legal for the past 100 years. Tobacco and alcohol consumption have never been illegal. Their "addiction" rates are extremely high in comparison. I see a connection. Do you?
80 posted on 03/30/2009 8:21:52 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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