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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - M2/M3 Bradley - Aug. 31st, 2004
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Posted on 08/30/2004 11:20:12 PM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: colorado tanker
Running For Senate In 1984, Kerry Promised Massive Defense Cuts.

“Kerry in 1984 said he would have voted to cancel … the B-1 bomber, B-2 stealth bomber, AH-64 Apache helicopter, Patriot missile, the F-15, F-14A and F-14D jets, the AV-8B Harrier jet, the Aegis air-defense cruiser, and the Trident missile system. He also advocated reductions in many other systems, such as the M1 Abrams tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle, the Tomahawk cruise missile, and the F-16 jet.”

(Brian C. Mooney, “Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One,” The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)
61 posted on 08/31/2004 1:35:31 PM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone.)
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To: Darksheare

I can't speak to it's speed and manueverability. But one of the stock responses to the armor criticism I spoke of was that "it won't get hit because it's too fast and nimble" (or words to that effect). Shoot and scoot, in other words.


62 posted on 08/31/2004 1:36:59 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: PsyOp
Thanks for sharing PsyOp.

So, I asked about it ans stated some of the criticisms I had heard, thinking they would welcome a chance to convince a soon-to-be officer that it was not in fact a "death trap" or mere "tank & RPG bait."

I agree, that was handled badly. He had a chance to refute those claims.

63 posted on 08/31/2004 1:38:53 PM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Volunteered at our county GOP HQ today from 10-2, lots of signs going out the door.


64 posted on 08/31/2004 1:39:58 PM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Matthew Paul

Thanks Matt for the excellent photo essay and for sharing your comments and feelings.


65 posted on 08/31/2004 1:41:12 PM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone.)
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To: Darksheare

The oly Bradley I've seen have been on static displays. Only got to see M-113's in action


66 posted on 08/31/2004 1:42:43 PM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone.)
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To: SAMWolf
Had Kerry's 1984 plan been adopted, we would have had little deterrent with which to win the Cold War and an obsolete Army to fight Gulf War I.

And that POS says he's "reporting for duty."

I suspect the Bushies will be educating the people about this history after Labor Day, when people start focusing on the election.

67 posted on 08/31/2004 1:44:25 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: PsyOp

Okers.
Thanks!


68 posted on 08/31/2004 1:55:27 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: SAMWolf

Understood.

Only had them drive past our position at Drum during AT, but never got to chat with the crews.
*rats*


69 posted on 08/31/2004 1:56:27 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: colorado tanker
I suspect the Bushies will be educating the people about this history after Labor Day, when people start focusing on the election

I sure hope so.

70 posted on 08/31/2004 2:07:17 PM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind works like lightning... one brilliant flash and it's gone.)
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To: SAMWolf

Great post Mr. Wolf :-)


71 posted on 08/31/2004 2:27:16 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: SAMWolf
I agree, that was handled badly. He had a chance to refute those claims.

Yeah. He pretty much convinced me that there was fire to go along with the smoke. After that you couldn't have paid me to get into one going into combat. I've seen the effect of an RPG on an aluminum skinned M113. I'd rather walk into combat.

72 posted on 08/31/2004 2:30:47 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: colorado tanker
"I remember the few years before deployment of the Bradley the Army got the idea that P.C.'s should be more than battle taxis and should be fighting vehicles..."

However the first real IFV was Russian BMP1 constructed in early 60's.
73 posted on 08/31/2004 2:30:51 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
We really needed the Bradley to counter the Sov IFV's.
74 posted on 08/31/2004 2:40:30 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Darksheare; Johnny Gage; Light Speed; Samwise; ...
Good afternoon everyone!

To all our military men and women, past and present, and to our allies who stand with us,
THANK YOU!

I hope everyone's doing well and having a grand day! (((HUGZ))) all 'round!


75 posted on 08/31/2004 3:27:59 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: radu

Good evening!


76 posted on 08/31/2004 3:47:41 PM PDT by Darksheare (Don't greet customers at the drivethrough with: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile!")
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Evening Grace Snip & Sam~

Happy "Treadhead Tuesday"! Man we can build some tanks. How long before they can fly?

I might be a little light on my responses this week with the Republican Convention but you guys are always in my thoughts. God bless.

78 posted on 08/31/2004 5:01:43 PM PDT by w_over_w (If it weren't for caffeine, I'd have no personality at all!)
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Evening all. Are you guys watching the Convention?


79 posted on 08/31/2004 5:37:53 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Kerry: "YES, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed")
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Nice bear :-)


80 posted on 08/31/2004 5:49:47 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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