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The FReeper Foxhole - Vietnam War Statistics - November 7th, 2004
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Posted on 11/06/2004 11:30:20 PM PST by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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Vietnam War Statistics




I. Official Campaigns of the War in Vietnam
(Time of service 15 March 1962 - 28 March 1973)



1. Vietnam Advisory Campaign (15 March 1962 - 07 March 1965)
2. Vietnam Defense Campaign (08 March 1965 - 24 December 1965)
3. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Campaign (25 December 1965 - 30 June 1966)
4. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase II (01 July 1966 - 31 May 1967)
5. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase III (01 June 1967 - 29 January 1968)
6. Tet Counteroffensive (30 January 1968 - 01 April 1968)
7. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase IV (02 April 1968 - 30 June 1968)
8. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase V (01 July 1968 - 01 November 1968)
9. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase VI (02 November 1968 - 22 February 1969)
10. Tet 69/Counteroffensive (23 February 1969 - 08 June 1969)
11. Vietnam Summer-Fall 1969 (09 June 1969 - 31 October 1969)
12. Vietnam Winter-Spring 1970 (01 November 1969 - 30 April 1970)
13. Sanctuary Counter-offensive (01 May 1970 - 30 June 1970)
14. Vietnamese Counter-offensive Phase VII (01 July 1970 - 30 June 1971)
15. Consolidation I (01 July 1971 - 30 November 1971)
16. Consolidation II (01 December 1971 - 29 March 1972)
17. Vietnam Ceasefire Campaign (30 March 1972 - 28 March 1973)

II.STATISTICS

IN UNIFORM AND IN COUNTRY
 

* Vietnam Veterans: 9.7% of their generation.
* 9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the Vietnam era (August 5, 1964 - May 7, 1975).
* 8,744,000 GIs were on active duty during the war (August 5, 1964 - March 28, 1973).
* 3,403,100 (including 514,300 offshore) personnel served in the Southeast Asia Theater (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in Thailand, and sailors in adjacent South China Sea waters). 2,594,000 personnel served within the borders of South Vietnam (January 1, 1965 - March 28, 1973).
* Another 50,000 men served in Vietnam between 1960 and 1964.
* Of the 2,6 million, between 1 - 1.6 million (40 - 60%) either fought in combat, provided close support or were at least fairly regularly exposed to enemy attack.
* 7,484 women (6,250 or 83.5% were nurses) served in Vietnam.
* Peak troop strength in Vietnam: 543,482 (April 30, 1969).

CASUALTIES

* Hostile deaths: 47,359.
* Non-hostile deaths: 10,797.
* Total: 58,202 (includes men formerly classified as MIA and Mayaguez casualties). Men who have subsequently died of wounds account for the changing total.
* 8 nurses died - 1 was KIA.
* Married men killed: 17,539.
* 61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.
* Highest state death rate: West Virginia - 84.1 men per 100,000 males serving in Vietnam (national average 58.9 men for every 100,000 males serving in Vietnam. {Averaged in 1970}).
* Wounded: 303,704 (153,329 hospitalized + 150,375 injured requiring no hospital care).
* Severely disabled: 75,000--23,214 100% disabled; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081 sustained multiple amputations. Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WWII and 70% higher than in Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WWII



* Missing in Action: 2,338.
* POWs: 766 (114 died in captivity).

DRAFTEES AND VOLUNTEERS

* 25% of the total forces in country were draftees 648,500 as opposed to 66% of the ones in WWII.
* Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of combat deaths in Vietnam.
* Reservists killed: 5,977.
* National Guard: 6,140 served; 101 died.
* Total draftees (1965-73): 1,728,344.
* Actually served in Vietnam: 38%.
* Marine Corps draft: 42,633.
* Last man drafted: June 30, 1973

RACE AND ETHNIC BACKGROUND

* 88.4% of the men who actually served in Vietnam were Caucasian, 10.6% (275,000) were black; 1% listed as others.
* 86.3% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasian (includes Hispanics); 12.5% (7,241) were black; 1.2% belonged to other races.
* 170,000 Hispanics served in Vietnam; 3,070 (5.2% of total) died there.
* 86.8% of the men who were killed as a result of hostile action were Caucasian; 12.1% (5,711)were black; 1.1% belonged to other races

* 14.6% (1.530) of non-combat deaths were among blacks.
* 34% of blacks who enlisted volunteered for the combat arms.
* Overall, blacks suffered 12.5% of the deaths in Vietnam at a time when the percentage of blacks of military age was 13.5% of the total population.
* Religion of Dead: Protestant--64.4%; Catholic--28.9%; other/none--6.7%.

SOCIO-ECONOMIC STATUS

* 76% of the men sent to Vietnam were from lower middle/ working class backgrounds.
* Three-fourths had family incomes above the poverty level; 50% were from middle income backgrounds.
* Some 23% of Vietnam vets had fathers with professional, managerial or technical occupations.
* 79% of the men who served in Vietnam had a high school education or better when they entered the military service. (63% of Korean War vets and only 45% of WWII vets had completed high school upon separation).
* Deaths by region per 100,000 of population: South-31, West-29.9; Midwest-28.4; Northeast-23.5

WINNING & LOSING

* 82% of veterans who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost because of lack of political will

* Nearly 75% of the public agrees it was a failure of political will, not of arms.

HONORABLE SERVICE

* 97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.
* 91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.
* 66% of Vietnam vets say they would serve again if called upon.
* 87% of the public now holds Vietnam veterans in high esteem





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To: Colonel_Flagg
"The Incredibles"

That's on our list too. Thanks for your kind words.

We put on a second coat of paint today and cut some trim. Just stopping in to say we are still above ground and will be back in about an hour or so.

61 posted on 11/07/2004 3:51:06 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
we are still above ground and will be back in about an hour or so.

I'm delighted to hear it, snippy :) .. but what is the alternative?

62 posted on 11/07/2004 3:54:36 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Gloating? Us? Well, okay.)
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To: SAMWolf

That is the same information I have. I actually re-enlisted one of my men on his hospital bed the day after he was wounded.


63 posted on 11/07/2004 5:04:47 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf

Steve McQueen makes an "appearance" in a Ford commercial for the new model year Mustang, it's pretty cool.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


64 posted on 11/07/2004 5:51:54 PM PST by alfa6 (Meeting: an event where minutes are kept and hours are lost.)
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To: bentfeather; Samwise; Professional Engineer; PhilDragoo; alfa6; w_over_w; colorado tanker; ...
All,

Here is what we've been doing since Friday! The "Sam and Snippy" store is coming along pretty good. We're tired.











More pics below.

65 posted on 11/07/2004 5:57:24 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: All







Sam checks the mail

One more set of pics below

66 posted on 11/07/2004 5:58:06 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Sam does some woodwork on our lunch table :-)

67 posted on 11/07/2004 5:58:36 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Grzegorz 246; Iris7
Grzegorz, here is a thread we did on the tunnels.

The FReeper Foxhole Studies the "Tunnel Rats" of Vietnam - January 23, 2004

Thanks for answering Iris, it's good to know we have folks who will take care of others while we're away (or even when we are here). :-)

68 posted on 11/07/2004 6:03:45 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
Will this EVER be put to rest? I Doubt it, it's to useful to the left.

That's the thing, if we don't study history on our own and are only left to the left, we will have it all wrong.

69 posted on 11/07/2004 6:05:23 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Coleus
I wonder what that stats. are on those smelly and freaky scum bags who spat on the soldiers coming home from Nam who are now members of United for Peace, MoveON, Pax Christi and the DemocRAT party?

The stats on them...W1 to ZERO!

70 posted on 11/07/2004 6:08:05 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; All

Great pics, Good Luck you two!

I wish I was closer, I would have loved to help..
keep us posted.......


71 posted on 11/07/2004 6:22:59 PM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
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To: snippy_about_it

WOW great pictures snippy and Sam. That's a pretty big store.

I like that color green! Woo HOO when's the grand opening?


72 posted on 11/07/2004 6:31:06 PM PST by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Grzegorz 246; Aeronaut; alfa6; E.G.C.; GailA; U S Army EOD; The Mayor; ...
GOD BLESS OUR VIETNAM VETERANS

Except for John Forbes Kerry


Future home of Hanoi John Kerry

NewsMax reports Kerry's diary account admits he "met with North Vietnamese terrorists" in Paris.

It was not for nothing he was given a LTH discharge--which he attempts to conceal by refusing to sign the Standard Form 180.

2000-Gore down.
2004-Kerry down.
2008-Hitlery-


73 posted on 11/07/2004 6:48:26 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: snippy_about_it
Thanks, Snip.

Thinking about those days, so wildly improbable and reckless those affairs were. The strange GIs I hung out with. Wild is not the word for those guys.

Came to think about telling a story about the fellow who is responsible for getting me to hang out around those Duc Pho area villages. Me a straight laced middle class Swab in Indian Country when not even ordered to be there! Just can't though, no way to clean it up, glad I didn't get into real trouble. And I don't mean just getting shot at! A miracle I am right here, right now.
74 posted on 11/07/2004 6:53:38 PM PST by Iris7 (.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks Phil

God Bless them all!

Hitlery will go down.
People will come out more than they did for Bush this time to vote against her...........

That is my Prayer anyway!


75 posted on 11/07/2004 7:03:39 PM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Busy days for you! Do you have a grand opening date yet?


76 posted on 11/07/2004 7:05:18 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Gloating? Us? Well, okay.)
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To: alfa6

I'll have to look for this commercial. The new mustand is sure sweet looking!


77 posted on 11/07/2004 7:15:28 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Who knows, after we perfect the telegraph, it may be possible to someday send voices over wires.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Whaddayaknow, it looks like the plan ya'll sent me. ;-)

I'm glad to see the plastic still on the light fixtures. The louvers are a booger to clean if they get sullied.


78 posted on 11/07/2004 7:19:35 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Who knows, after we perfect the telegraph, it may be possible to someday send voices over wires.)
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To: PhilDragoo

I really wish that the FBI would reopen the investigation of the 1971 bombing of the US Capital Building!!!!!


79 posted on 11/07/2004 8:03:06 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: The Mayor
I would have loved to help..

And we would have loved to have you. Being a small business the two of us are doing everything we can ourselves and boy are we sore and tired, but it's worth it!

80 posted on 11/07/2004 8:06:19 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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