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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Charles W. Anderson and the 15th Air Force - Oct. 8th, 2003
http://www2.gvsu.edu/~vandelej/part1.html ^ | Leslie VanderMeulen

Posted on 10/07/2003 11:59:56 PM PDT by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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My Grandfather's Story
by Leslie VanderMeulen


Leslie VanderMeulen is a student at Grand Valley State University. For a semester project, she chose to research her grandfather's military career.

Charles Waldo Anderson, my grandfather, served in World War II, a war that altered his life forever. I have never had the privilege of meeting this man, but have been told his story many times. Gentle, shy, intelligent, fun loving, easy-going, a good sense of humor are words and phrases that characterized my grandfather’s personality before the war. Unfortunately, his experiences during the war had lasting effects, and after returning home he was not the same. I am not at all surprised that he changed in light of his time in war; many men with many different stories changed after they faced war.


Charles Anderson served as a tail gunner in the 15th Army Air Force, 463rd Bomb Group, 772nd Bomb Squadron during World War II. On February 13, 1945 his plane was shot down, and he spent the rest of the war as a POW in several camps.


A young Charles planned to enlist in the Army on a Monday in 1942. It is fortunate that he wanted to join, because he received enlistment papers before he went down to sign up. He departed for St. Louis, Missouri, only twenty-one and recently married. For six months he went through basic training in St. Louis, then (in February 1943) he went to Las Vegas, Nevada for gunnery training. In May of that year he joined his flight crew and departed for Sioux City, Iowa where they underwent combat training. After graduating from combat training, his flight crew picked up their plane in Nebraska and proceeded to their final destination: Foggia, Italy, which remained their home for the duration of the war.



In Foggia, and anywhere troops are stationed during wartime, the soldiers lived in humble quarters, to say the least. All soldiers of every rank slept in tents on the ground at camp. However, my grandfather’s crew used their ingenuity and made their stay as comfortable as possible. One night they took the rations of whiskey, which they received periodically, into town where they sold it and bought basic building supplies. When they returned to camp they built a small house, and when everyone woke up in the morning, they saw this little building in the middle of camp. Simply built of brick with a roof on top, it was a humble house. Nevertheless, my grandfather and his crew had the best sleeping quarters of any of the soldiers.


Camp in Foggia, Italy.


Though the crews tried to make the best out of life in the camp, wartime certainly did not consist of fun and games. My grandfather’s flight crew performed many missions during their time in Foggia. The crew was part of the15th Army Air Corps, specifically in the 463rd Bomb Group, 772nd Bomb Squadron, where my grandfather did his job as a tail gunner on their B-17. A tail gunner’s job is to shoot from the rear of the plane. Their final mission took place on February 13, 1945. This mission included bombing Vienna, Austria, and proved to be quite unsuccessful. The plane received a shot in the fourth engine, causing the third engine to catch on fire. This sent the plane crashing down in flames, and the entire crew bailed out at 15,000 feet. The report sent to my grandmother regarding the crash stated “plane sighted going down in flames – no parachutes sighted”.



My grandfather experienced a stroke of luck that day which saved his life. After he bailed out of the plane he landed in a tree, while his crewmembers landed on the ground. When Viennese civilians found six of the crew members, my grandfather watched them lynch his friends right there. The civilians took this action because German soldiers had convinced them that the Air Corps planned to bomb their villages and homes, thus they were very angry at these soldiers. German soldiers did find my grandfather’s extra pair of shoes that had fallen off his belt when they went to look for survivors. However, seeing no footprints in the snow, they concluded that this man must be dead. Lucky for my grandfather, they did not look up to see him sitting there in a bare tree.


Tail Gunner position on a B-17


In a report taken after the war, my grandfather stated that he evaded capture for three days, but a farmer turned him in, and he was then taken to Weiner Neustadt Airfield, Austria. Held there from February 16 to March 5, he then encountered interrogation for two days (March 8-10). After the interrogation, he was transported to three more camps. From March 12 through 16 he stayed at Dulagluft, March 18 through April 4 held at Nuremberg, and from April 4 to 29 at Moosburg.

My grandfather never spoke to his children about the treatment at the camps. All that he did say is that they were given very little to eat, so that they would be too weak to fight back. Most imprisoned soldiers involuntarily participated in prison detail, which consisted of any hard labor that could be found to keep the prisoners occupied. Most of this work done outside the camps, thus the Army Air Corps could not participate. Airmen could not perform prison detail because of the angry civilians, who attempted to harm them. If the men in the Air Corps attempted to work outside the prison, civilians tried to throw stones and such at them.



Civilians also abused soldiers during their marches between camps by throwing stones and rocks at them. The walked to and from camps or railcars must have been terrifying. Not only targeted by civilians, my grandfather and fellow soldiers incurred bombing by their own men in a few instances. While on a 100-mile march to Munich, they feared for their lives as their own planes dropped bombs on them. The soldiers faced more bombing by American planes when held locked in boxcars for three days in the Nuremberg Rail Yards. In this situation, the men stood cramped in the small cars with no room to sit, no food, water, or sanitation. The soldiers probably faced more danger between camps, whether walking or on trains, than actually in the camps.

The treatment that my grandfather and his fellow prisoners received was certainly inhumane. The situation did improve in a few instances, however, and that is how they knew the end of the war neared. Food rations increased, and the prisoners began to receive better treatment from the guards. The prisons also removed some guards from their posts who previously mistreated prisoners. This occurred because when the war ended and U.S. troops came in, they asked the soldiers who had mistreated them. These guards got taken out and immediately shot.


Charles W. Anderson


Luckily for my grandfather, his plane was shot down towards the end of the war, therefore was only held as a prisoner of war for a short time. After the war ended, he headed for Camp Lucky Strike in France, where he would be sent to London, and then home. However, he caught the mumps in France, hence he was detained in the hospital for three weeks. By the time he was on the way home, my grandmother finally received word that he had been accounted for. On July 11, 1945 he returned home for good.



Honorably discharged from the Army on September 25, 1945, my grandfather received several medals including a Prisoner of War Medal, an American Campaign Medal, a World War II Victory Medal, and a Purple Heart. Hearing all of this, I wonder how he felt about his experience in the war and how it ended. Since he rarely talked to his kids about it, all I can guess from is the ways in which his personality changed after he returned. Instead of easy-going and gentle, he became a man with an unpredictable temper, not much respect for authority, and a bitterness about him. Obviously this change stemmed from his time during the war, perhaps as a result of seeing and enduring too much in not very many years.



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To: Skylight
Hawaii! Good time of year to be there.

I'd love to see Pearl Harbor. Never made it to Hawaii except as a refueling stop.

Enjoy yourself and have happy birthday to the granddaughter!
61 posted on 10/08/2003 10:10:20 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: Samwise
Unfortunately she didn't say what her grade was.
62 posted on 10/08/2003 10:14:35 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: Samwise
Congrats to SamWise, Jr. Nice to see some kids are learning what's really important.
63 posted on 10/08/2003 10:16:21 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: Skylight
Thanks skylight. Great story, how different the current CIC is compared to the last one.
64 posted on 10/08/2003 10:17:36 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: colorado tanker
Yep. The 8th got all the press, the American people always treated the Med as a "secondary front". A discredit to the men who served there.
65 posted on 10/08/2003 10:19:43 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: Skylight
I got the set for Christmas. It's a great series. The book is excellent too.
66 posted on 10/08/2003 10:20:50 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: SAMWolf
One of my favorite movies is "Battle of Britain". I have read many books on the battle and watched the english film version of the story. Amazing air battles of strength and endurance against overwheming odds. The Germans were also brave and fought well. The English were blessed (and lucky) because the German leadership were fools. If they had let real airman wage the war the outcome would have been different. God most assuredly, blessed the British.


67 posted on 10/08/2003 10:22:07 AM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: SAMWolf
Another great presentation today, SAM. Thanks
68 posted on 10/08/2003 10:53:56 AM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Skylight
Beautiful story.
69 posted on 10/08/2003 11:08:39 AM PDT by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: snippy_about_it
You can brag about her any day here at the Foxhole.

Thanks. If I ever go overboard, just smack me. ;^)

70 posted on 10/08/2003 11:10:14 AM PDT by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: Diver Dave
Thanks DD.

It was good to see a granddaughter take the time to learn about her grandfather and make theeffort to dothe tribute.
71 posted on 10/08/2003 11:17:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: Skylight
If the Germans had continued the attacks on the air fields they could have beat the RAF. They came so close but the High Command screwed up. Same thing with switching to the close escort of the bombers, the Fighter sweeps were accomplishing the goal of destroying the British fighters.
72 posted on 10/08/2003 11:20:48 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: Samwise
..just smack me. ;^)

LOL. I'm always telling SAM I wish sometimes I could smack him upside the head through the computer! All in fun, of course, he rarely deserves it. :)

73 posted on 10/08/2003 1:46:37 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Prof Engineer
IMHO, best heavy bomber built.
74 posted on 10/08/2003 3:08:56 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; SpookBrat; AntiJen; MistyCA; PhilDragoo; All
Nice thread, Sam.

Good evening all.


75 posted on 10/08/2003 7:31:52 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The CA recall's biggest losers are the three musketeers: the RATS, the LAT, and the National Inquire)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
1982 Poland bans Solidarity

Now that certainly worked well.


76 posted on 10/08/2003 9:05:21 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: SAMWolf; Skylight
If the Germans had continued the attacks on the air fields they could have beat the RAF.

And the Japs failed to take out the fuel dumps at Pearl--which would have been a severe setback, worse than the actual attack.

77 posted on 10/08/2003 9:07:10 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good Evening Victoria.

Nice graphic for tonight.
78 posted on 10/08/2003 9:53:26 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Some things you can ban, but you can't stop.
79 posted on 10/08/2003 9:54:23 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Yep the fuel farms and the repair facilities. I believe that was supposed to be the third wave's targets, but not knowing where our carriers were and due to losses over an already alerted target, the third wave was never launched
80 posted on 10/08/2003 9:56:09 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Practiss makes perfict.)
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