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Why the nation will embrace universal health care
The Seattle Times ^ | 6/3/05 | Lance Dickie

Posted on 06/03/2005 10:17:58 AM PDT by bagocookies

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To: bagocookies
If "universal health care" is so wonderful, why did the U.S. military dump it? Hmmmmmmmmmm????

I can't take someone named Lance Dickie seriously either.

21 posted on 06/03/2005 10:25:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: bagocookies

Under the current insurance system, we pretty much have this in place already. The only difference is there is not a single payer.


22 posted on 06/03/2005 10:26:33 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: bagocookies

So your a good conservative that thinks nationalized (socialized) medicine would be the same disaster here that it's been in other countries, right?


23 posted on 06/03/2005 10:26:46 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: safeasthebanks

I did not write the article.


24 posted on 06/03/2005 10:27:42 AM PDT by bagocookies
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To: bagocookies

Attendance at medical schools will drop like a rock...

I know that in Canada a lot of med students end up with really crummy locations where they have to start their practices...

ie...you go to school at UBC in Vancouver BC Canada, and the first place you may practice medicin is some podunk inuit village north of the 60...

not to mention that if you start your own practice you have to put up with the nurses unions etc...

My Physician (my best friends father) finally gave up his practice because he was sick of dealing with the government and the unions...


25 posted on 06/03/2005 10:28:28 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: bagocookies
Sixty-five percent of Americans support the U.S. government guaranteeing health insurance for all citizens, even if it means raising taxes, according to a survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.

Don't forget that this is the same polling organization that ginned up FAKE polling results in support of Campaign Finance Reform!

Mark

26 posted on 06/03/2005 10:28:59 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: A. Pole

Ping for your thoughts.


27 posted on 06/03/2005 10:29:17 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: safeasthebanks; bagocookies
Go away leftie dweeb!

Give the guy a break. Granted, the post is pretty aggressive for a newbie, but unlike most trolls worthy of ZOT, at least he/she has stuck around to respond to comments.

28 posted on 06/03/2005 10:29:33 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: bagocookies
The fundamental change is that a broad swath of the public knows it is poorly served by an inefficient and bureaucratic system...

Thus it will turn to the Federal Government, with its legendary efficiency and lack of bureaucracy, for a solution. ;)

29 posted on 06/03/2005 10:30:06 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: joesbucks

What we have now through private insurance & medical companies is hardly perfect, but still far better than Hillarycare, which is how *any* "nationalized health care system" would ultimately end up.


30 posted on 06/03/2005 10:30:15 AM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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To: bagocookies
yes we will have national health care.....because.....

#1 too many already sucking from the govt tit whether it be the illegals, the old, the poor or the government employed or retired....

#2 too much money for those of us who do buy health care for our families.....over $600 dollars a month for TWO people (mine is actually "free") is insane...

the unfairness of the present system will soon right itself because it has too.....

at the route of the problem is of course, the govt......a govt who lavishes wonderful health care on their chosen people, and sends the bill to people like me, who actually pay their way and don't have the govt freebies....

its all going to end....

something very wrong about people working in health care such as myself plus millions of others in non-profit private hosptitals.....physical therapist, pharmacist, aides,etc.....NOT having medical retirement benefits at all......

31 posted on 06/03/2005 10:30:26 AM PDT by cherry
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To: bagocookies

Please answer my question (I know who wrote the article newbie).


32 posted on 06/03/2005 10:30:35 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: Labyrinthos

Thanks. I think this is a topic that needs discussion. Even if you disagree with a premise, it does churn out responses that add to the discussion.


33 posted on 06/03/2005 10:31:09 AM PDT by bagocookies
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To: MarkL
Those figures are typical though. Check here (scroll down).
34 posted on 06/03/2005 10:31:36 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: safeasthebanks

of couse.


35 posted on 06/03/2005 10:32:08 AM PDT by bagocookies
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To: JNL

"What would be wrong with some of opt-in system?"

Hillary and other liberals don't see any such thing. For them, we are all in the same village, and we all should be under the same system.

As someone else on FR said, "Scratch a liberal, uncover a fascist".

Besides, they won't be able to fund it unless everyone is in it. They will have to be Robin Hood and take from the rich to fund it.


36 posted on 06/03/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: theDentist
I just can't take seriously any article authored by a man named Lance Dickie .

Sounds painful.

37 posted on 06/03/2005 10:32:43 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: cherry

If you expect benefits, get a job that offers them.


38 posted on 06/03/2005 10:33:05 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: theDentist; bagocookies

The U.S. is headed toward a single-payer system of universal health care.

Correspondingly, look for physicians to leave the industry in droves as Federal price controls greatly reduces the profitability of private practice.
39 posted on 06/03/2005 10:33:31 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: bagocookies

I am sure everyone can hardly wait for our own version of the VA hospital system.


40 posted on 06/03/2005 10:33:53 AM PDT by mathluv
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