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Why the nation will embrace universal health care
The Seattle Times ^ | 6/3/05 | Lance Dickie

Posted on 06/03/2005 10:17:58 AM PDT by bagocookies

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1 posted on 06/03/2005 10:18:02 AM PDT by bagocookies
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To: bagocookies
I just can't take seriously any article authored by a man named Lance Dickie .
2 posted on 06/03/2005 10:19:44 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems are putting all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: bagocookies
The U.S. is headed toward a single-payer system of universal health care.
At the same time we're seeing single-payer systems England and Canada failing?

Not likely.

3 posted on 06/03/2005 10:20:58 AM PDT by jdege
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To: bagocookies

Must be smoking some of that medicinal marijuana.


4 posted on 06/03/2005 10:21:03 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bagocookies

If our system is so bad, why do wealthy Canadians and Europeans keep coming here to use it? Why don't they stay in their wonderful socialistic health systems? Just wondering.


5 posted on 06/03/2005 10:21:30 AM PDT by Tulane
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FWIW, I personally agree. Universal health care seems to be inevitable, and it will be the first priority of the next Dem elected president, whenever that might be. It's mainly a matter of how it's going to get structured.


6 posted on 06/03/2005 10:22:05 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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Corporations are sick of paying high cost of health care, though. They do wield influence.


7 posted on 06/03/2005 10:22:05 AM PDT by bagocookies
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The one sweetener I would add is having the new health system pick up the costs of medical-malpractice insurance.

In other countries with socialized medicine, there is NO suing the government for health care issues. Funny how this person wants the "best of both worlds" from a socialistic standpoint...

8 posted on 06/03/2005 10:22:09 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Geyman sees national change driven by runaway health-care prices, the failure of the marketplace to contain costs and the inability of people to afford medical care.

I agree.

9 posted on 06/03/2005 10:22:20 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Tulane

It's not bad, it's just expensive.


10 posted on 06/03/2005 10:22:43 AM PDT by bagocookies
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Does anyone here have any experience with those Health Savings Plans. I was talking to a company the other day about it and it looked pretty good. What you pays goes into a medical IRA. What you don't use rolls over at year's end and stays in the account like an IRA. It looks like a good deal for a healthy family like mine. The deductibles are a bit higher, but I can't remember the last time I even came close to meeting the deductable on a standard Cigna plan.

Those MSA/HSA plans look like a much better alternative to socialized medicine, especially for the self-employed.


11 posted on 06/03/2005 10:23:03 AM PDT by gregwest
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Go away leftie dweeb!


12 posted on 06/03/2005 10:23:06 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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When will someone please stand up and shout: "WE ALREADY HAVE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE AND IT IS THE BEST IN THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD!"?????When has ANYONE in the USA been DENIED HEALTHCARE?...........


13 posted on 06/03/2005 10:23:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Goooooooogle your own name.............)
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I can actually see the greedy geezers demanding Hillarycare on top of their "free" prescription drugs and "free" SS checks.


14 posted on 06/03/2005 10:24:12 AM PDT by k2blader ("A kingdom of conscience ... That is what lies at the end of Crusade.")
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Gimme a break. It's an article I thought folks would want to read.


15 posted on 06/03/2005 10:24:22 AM PDT by bagocookies
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Everyone keeps his or her doctor and, more to the point, everyone will have one

Welcome to FR.

Where are all these doctors going to come from?

16 posted on 06/03/2005 10:24:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Red Badger
That's a good point. I think universal health coverage would've been a better way to put it (though one could make a similar statement about that).
17 posted on 06/03/2005 10:24:52 AM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: bagocookies
To quote the author

That is just nuts.

18 posted on 06/03/2005 10:24:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (.)
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What would be wrong with some of opt-in system? Much like the SS that is being proposed. No doctor or client would be forced to deal with a federal system it would be their choice.

If the experiement falls on it's face (it most likely will) nobody loses and this whole converaation finally dies.


19 posted on 06/03/2005 10:25:21 AM PDT by JNL
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Yes. There is enough class envy and "gimme"-ism in the US to have enough political pull to get the whores in Congress to saddle us with a fully socialized healthcare system.

This, of course, is exactly the opposite of what we should be doing. But the masses screaming for more won't care. They are too stupid and thoughtless to care. By sheer force of numbers they will have it crammed down our throats, just like prescription medicine for seniors, and we'll will be one more swirl closer to the bottom of the toilet bowl.

And no. I'm not sure there is a damn thing any of us can do about it. I do know that we shouldn't go quietly.

20 posted on 06/03/2005 10:25:37 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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