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Unfree Republic: Thread II
Lewrockwell.com ^ | September 24, 2001 | Jeff Elkins

Posted on 09/24/2001 4:24:58 PM PDT by Rebeckie

Unfree Republic

by Jeff Elkins

Let the stench of Middle East flesh reach Paradise reassuring them that these filth have gone to hell permanently."

The quote above is representative of many posted on the FreeRepublic.com site in the wake of the WTC attack, and unfortunately its like is not uncommon elsewhere. Americans are angry, predictably and rightly so, but just as predictable are the side effects. As always, that righteous anger will be accepted as a beloved gift by the state and molded into tools of oppression.

It’s funny how that works. Every single state-sponsored war the US has become embroiled in has resulted in an inexorable increase in the power of the state.

It’s also funny that it’s always assumed that human behavior in the past has no relation to how we behave today. Why those people were old-fashioned, we’re modern, educated, etc.

The beginning of this repeating pattern has already become public with the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security. It has an ominous sound, that name, almost Germanic. (I can’t wait to see the uniforms.)

On April 13, 1917, days after our entry into World War One, President Wilson created the Committee on Public Information to promote the war domestically while publicizing American war aims abroad. Bush has replicated that step, with this new cabinet-level department.

Under the leadership of journalistic muckraker George Creel, the CPI was a propaganda apparatus unparalleled at that point in world history. The CPI functioned as a de facto public censor, vetting nearly all published material about the war and helping to draft legislation such as the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918. In the months prior to our entry into the war and especially after our entry when they were nearly criminal, antiwar viewpoints were rarely heard.

The same pattern emerges now: Penn. Gov. Tom Ridge will be President Bush’s George Creel, and just as in those dim days of yesteryear, he’ll have plenty of willing civilian accomplices. And after all, there’s so much more to censor -- Ridge will need all the help he can get. In seeking warriors for the front line of Internet censorship, Ridge needs look no farther than FreeRepublic.com. The atmosphere there is now poisonous.

Again, look back to Wilson's CPI. It encouraged businesses to spy on their employees, parents to spy on their children, children to spy on their parents, neighbors to spy on neighbors, and above all to report "disloyal," pro-German sentiments. State authorities banned the teaching of German in schools and changed German street names. As the madness mounted, those regarded as pro-German were hounded from their jobs, pressured to change their German names, beaten, and in a few cases lynched. Almost all cases of violence, while incited by the state, were carried out by "civilians" in the grip of war hysteria.

Along with this anti-German hysteria, Congress passed several measures designed to rigidly suppress criticism of the war. In particular, the Espionage Act, passed in June 1917, specified a fine of $10,000 or twenty years in prison for "whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag."

The Espionage Act was very popular in its day. It was cheered on by mindless lemmings under the influence of state propaganda. Their great grandchildren now inhabit FreeRepublic.com, viciously attacking anyone who questions the wisdom of the state.

Our Congress is considering similar measures under the rubric of "anti-terrorism," and as it was at the beginning of the 20th Century, the FreeRepublic lemmings of the 21st are cheering the morally corrupt politicians along.

It’s not just message posters on the site. The management of FreeRepublic has instituted a "loose lips sink ships" campaign, with new moderators patrolling the forum to delete posts that in their opinion are detrimental to the "war effort."

The FreeRepublic mission statement claims "We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."

Sanctimonious hogwash. Everything old is new again – the keyboard warriors of FreeRepublic would be right at home in 1917 shilling for Wilson.

September 24, 2001


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To: Ronin
I second everything you said in this post. Back the Pres for sure and our guys fighting, but, beware of "trojan horse" fixes.
61 posted on 09/24/2001 6:52:36 PM PDT by poet
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To: Cultural Jihad
...Let me tell you something,,, buddy, this lirbertarian disagrees with that. I try to look at individual issues. I don't judge an individual by what is on the cover of his book. BTW, have you taken a poll? Or is this just more stereotypy?
62 posted on 09/24/2001 6:52:55 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: Storm Orphan
Har!!!
63 posted on 09/24/2001 6:53:09 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Eagle Eye
No one is checking their opinions at the door. It's just for the duration of the emergency, some of us feel that national and personal priorities need to be put on the back burner while our troops are in harm's way.
64 posted on 09/24/2001 6:53:18 PM PDT by TKEman
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To: TKEman
It's just for the duration of the emergency

So the new proposed laws are only temporary? They will expire shortly after? Good, one could start to worry that they will take root and expand like WOD.

65 posted on 09/24/2001 7:01:18 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: TexasKamaAina
I'm with you! When I heard the Pres. use this term it raised the hair on the back of my neck. I don't like it a bit!
66 posted on 09/24/2001 7:02:49 PM PDT by TexanaRED
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, I agree entirely with you. I've been extremely ticked at the response of some Libertarians to this emergency. Some are stepping up to the plate, but others seem more concerned about the breath of their rights. While I understand these concerns, I feel me all must unite around the flag, and defend the country.

I would say that in order to exercise your rights, you have to actually be alive. I think it's pretty obvious that Mr. Bin Laden and his band of criminals intend to kill as many of us possible, thereby allowing us to exercise our rights from the grave.

Personally, I think that we should now exercise our right to kill Mr. Bin Laden. There simply is no other solution to this problem. If this means tightening up security for our country, then so be it.

67 posted on 09/24/2001 7:04:00 PM PDT by TKEman
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To: A. Pole
...Don't let your guard down, be diligent of the IFG.
68 posted on 09/24/2001 7:05:14 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: OWK
I agree entirely with you. Browne's actions since 9/11/01 have been downright disgusting. This is war. We must fight to win.
69 posted on 09/24/2001 7:05:37 PM PDT by TKEman
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To: TKEman
It's just for the duration of the emergency

What a pity. You've neglected your history books. Any idea how many of the FDR-inspired laws were "just for the duration of the emergency"? How many of them still exsist? Most of us are up-to-date on this stuff. Are you?

Callahan

70 posted on 09/24/2001 7:06:45 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Texaggie79
It's a switch, isn't it? See, we're not all bad.
71 posted on 09/24/2001 7:07:00 PM PDT by TKEman
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To: TKEman
It's good seeing you lined up in Freedom's ranks.
72 posted on 09/24/2001 7:09:50 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Cultural Jihad
Amen. He's not alone. There are many stepping up to the plate and exhibiting fine patriotism, such as TKEman and others.

Thanks for your comment. Yes, it's nice to be on the same side for once. We all must rally around the flag, and support our troops. There simply is no other rational choice. We must win the war.

After the war is over, we'll return to our regularly scheduled program.....

Trust me on this. :-)

73 posted on 09/24/2001 7:11:05 PM PDT by TKEman
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To: Ronin
Very well said. Thanks
74 posted on 09/24/2001 7:13:42 PM PDT by malarski
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To: gargoyle
Don't let your guard down, be diligent of the IFG.

What is "IFG"?

75 posted on 09/24/2001 7:15:41 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: TKEman
After the war is over, we'll return to our regularly scheduled program.....

After the war, can I really trust FReepers to demand that any 'temporary' restrictions on financial privacy (to cut off terrorist $$, of course), any 'temporary' ID card requirements, any 'temporary' WOD-like suspensions of the 4th amendment, etc. be removed? We cannot even get rid of the damn mohair subsidy.

Sorry guys, but I just don't trust y'all to fight to repeal something signed by Bush that you would man the ramparts against if signed by Clinton. I honestly don't.
76 posted on 09/24/2001 7:18:18 PM PDT by sendtoscott
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
What a pity. You've neglected your history books. Any idea how many of the FDR-inspired laws were "just for the duration of the emergency"? How many of them still exsist? Most of us are up-to-date on this stuff. Are you?

Whoa there big fella....

Nobody said anything about accepting violations of our rights and liberties ala FDR. (or at least I didn't)

I recognize that our nation is at war. I recognize our need to weild military force against those who have killed 7000 innocent citizens of our nation. I recognize that our enemy deserves no quarter, and I would readily see them crushed under the overwhelming might of true justice.

But that doesn't mean I accept the Orwellian measures which may be in store for us over the next several years. I still oppose the National ID card. I still oppose socialism. I still oppose the draft (although I'd volunteer in a snap if needed). I still oppose violations of the 4th amendment.

The evil monsters who did this are the people who need to pay.... not the liberties of American citizens.

Don't confuse my support for military action (which is clearly necessary and just in this case) with support for further encroachments of state upon our liberties. They are two distinct questions.

77 posted on 09/24/2001 7:18:20 PM PDT by OWK
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To: annalex, all
On this war, the unpopular does not translate to the right.

But it is also both fair and true to say that on this war (on any war, for that matter) the popular does not always translate into the "right," either. By the way, whatever you think of Mr. Rockwell's actual views, do try to bear in mind the article in question on this thread wasn't written by Mr. Rockwell himself, merely published on his site. It is always wisest to condemn a man or woman for what they do believe or say (while upholding and defending always their right to say it), rather than what you think they believe or say.
78 posted on 09/24/2001 7:24:50 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I am not exactly sure why you pinged these song lyrics to me...I personally think that this columnist had a good point and I welcome people to disagree with me. What does disturb me however, is that you seem to be insinuating that I am not patriotic and do not love this great country that I am blessed to live in. I would fully support a war against whomever is responsible for these terrible acts against our country--I am a conservative's conservative and a strong Christian. But I am wary of George W. Bush's leadership and personality traits, sorry, but even if he gave a couple of great speeches; saying something and then actually following through in politics is something of a statistical anamoly.

I know that you probably think that I am somehow being unpatriotic in posting this thread and I don't mean to be at all; but I think that if your website is to be named 'Freerepublic' the name should at least stand for something, including free speech.

79 posted on 09/24/2001 7:27:06 PM PDT by Rebeckie
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To: OWK
I wasn't addressing you, but thanks for the reply nonetheless.

Regards,
Callahan

80 posted on 09/24/2001 7:27:08 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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