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Bush Winning Gore Backers' High Praises [Dem Leaders say: We're glad "Gore did not win"] NYT
The NY Times ^ | Oct. 20, 2001 | Richard Berke

Posted on 10/19/2001 9:02:34 PM PDT by summer

October 20, 2001

THE DEMOCRATS

Bush Winning Gore Backers' High Praises

By RICHARD L. BERKE

WASHINGTON, Oct. 19 — As he leads the country in a war on terrorism, President Bush has won over some unlikely supporters, prominent Democrats who campaigned for Al Gore in last year's presidential campaign.

Many Democrats who once dismissed Mr. Bush as too naïve and too dependent on advisers to steer the United States through an international crisis are now praising his and his advisers' performance. Some are even privately expressing satisfaction that Mr. Gore, who tried to make his foreign affairs expertise an issue in the campaign, did not win.

Sounding relieved that Mr. Gore is not president, Representative Jim Moran, a Virginia Democrat, said: "I feel comfortable with President Bush. I never thought I would utter those words."

He continued: "Even though I'm a Democrat and think the Supreme Court selected our president, I don't think it's to our disadvantage to have George Bush as president. Sometimes you need a certain amount of braggadocio in your leaders."

Perhaps out of a desire to rally around Mr. Bush, not one of more than 15 prominent Gore loyalists interviewed said their candidate would have done a better job.

The most blunt assessments were from Democrats who spoke on the condition that they not be identified. Several said the nation was fortunate to have Mr. Bush in power, and they questioned whether Mr. Gore would have surrounded himself with as experienced a foreign policy team as Mr. Bush did. Citing Mr. Gore's sometimes rambling speech in Des Moines on Sept. 29 in which he praised Mr. Bush, some Democrats also questioned whether the former vice president would have been as nimble at communicating to the public.

One former senator who was a staunch Gore backer said he was relieved that Mr. Bush was president because he feared that the former vice president would think he had all the answers.

"He may know too much," he said. "And he would have tried to micromanage everything."

A top appointee in the Clinton administration. criticizing the qualifications of those he expected to be Mr. Gore's foreign policy team, said he could not imagine Mr. Gore's foreign policy advisers "running a war against Afghanistan."

Representative Norm Dicks, a Washington Democrat who was one of Mr. Gore's most ardent supporters, said his candidate might have handled the crisis as well as Mr. Bush — but not necessarily any better.

"People were wondering if Bush was up to it," Mr. Dicks said. "I think he's answered that. The guy has really impressed people. One of the real strengths of this administration is that people do feel comfortable about Colin Powell and Dick Cheney in particular."

Of course, no one will ever know how the crisis would have unfolded in a Gore administration. But discussions about how Mr. Gore might have tackled the crisis have reverberated in the capital, perhaps because last year's election was so close.

In a statement today through an aide, Mr. Gore declined to join in the speculation. "I have consistently declined either in public or private to say what I would have done or what I would do now during this war on terrorism," he said. "As I said in Iowa, George W. Bush is my commander in chief, he is president of the United States. And I refuse to second guess his decisions in this matter."

Several Gore loyalists said Mr. Gore probably would have also turned to seasoned professionals to staff his administration. Richard Holbrooke, the veteran diplomat, was frequently mentioned as a likely choice for secretary of state. Leon Fuerth, Mr. Gore's longtime foreign policy adviser, might have served as White House national security adviser.

Still, many Democrats said they felt particularly reassured by Mr. Bush's team, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, Colin L. Powell, the secretary of state and Donald H. Rumsfeld, the defense secretary.

The diminished confidence in Mr. Gore that some Democrats are expressing is a big change from last year's campaign, when Gore supporters argued that Mr. Gore should be elected because of his grasp of world affairs, if for no other reason. At a rally only days before the election, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, Mr. Gore's running mate, asserted, "When I think of a solitary figure standing in the Oval Office, weighing life and death decisions that can affect the security of our country and the stability of our world, I see Al Gore."

Now, not even Mr. Gore's closest aides would assert that their candidate would have done any better.

"The Bush administration has a number of people with tremendous experience in foreign policy and crises," said Carter Eskew, one of Mr. Gore's top political advisers. "They were able to add a sense of stability to the situation, and the president has led them well. Gore himself would have had that experience."

One foreign policy adviser to Mr. Gore said that he would have been more assertive earlier in engaging other nations. But, he said, "I don't think our conduct at the tactical or strategic level would be that much different."

Whatever Mr. Gore's capabilities, others Democrats noted that members of their party are known to be more aggressive defenders of Israel than Republicans, which may have complicated diplomatic objectives in the region.

"Because of the politics of the Democratic Party," Mr. Moran said, "it may have been more difficult to work with Pakistan versus India and to have worked with some of the Arab nations against the wishes of Israel."

Not all Democrats were skeptical about Mr. Gore. Some noted that he was much more emphatic during the campaign than Mr. Bush about the need to deal with terrorists and for nation building. Others said Mr. Gore did not need to rely on as talented advisers because he was far more steeped in international affairs.

For better or worse, they added, he would probably have been more hawkish about military action than Mr. Bush, because he often pressed President Clinton to be more aggressive, particularly in the Balkans.

"I don't think there would have been a lick of difference," said Rahm Emanuel, a senior adviser in the Clinton White House. "I remember the counsel the vice president provided to the president many times during military action."

Senator Tom Daschle of South Dakota, the majority leader, said it was unfair to assume that Mr. Gore would not have done as well.

"I am very comforted by the way the president has handled all this," he said. "He has more than risen to the occasion. He's impressed me a lot. Al Gore could have been every bit as capable of rising to an occasion like this."


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To: weegee
The only problem is the base is all fired up to "re-elect" gore

I'm not sure I agree with that. If Gore ran again and lost, that would make him a FOUR TIME LOSER.

241 posted on 10/20/2001 9:09:48 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: JohnHuang2; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Sounding relieved that Mr. Gore is not president, Representative Jim Moran, a Virginia Democrat, said: "I feel comfortable with President Bush. I never thought I would utter those words."

He continued: "Even though I'm a Democrat and think the Supreme Court selected our president, I don't think it's to our disadvantage to have George Bush as president. Sometimes you need a certain amount of braggadocio in your leaders."

Doesn't sound like "high praise" to me. More like damning with faint praise.

I guess I'm a skeptic, but I think they are just jumping on the bandwagon because polls show the country is 90% behind President Bush. Just wait, the first time something goes wrong (as it inevitably will) they'll revert to their former nasty selves and blame it all on the President.

At least we don't have to hear the "gravitas mantra" anymore!

Interesting article, nevertheless. Thanks for the flags.

242 posted on 10/20/2001 9:12:32 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: summer
Summer, I can't imagine in my wildest dreams, the spectacle of HRC running for president, the chaos it would create in this country. As Americans, we can no longer vote for a party, we have to weigh the candidates, their integrity, their honesty, and their respect for our United States Constitution and yes for the American Culture and the American Way.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/550992/posts

You are a teacher and you must be both surprised and pleased at the awareness that this horrible mess has brought us. Americans are once again joining together in prayer and taking a long buried delight in their nation by showing respect to their American symbols and who we are.

Hillary Clinton has publicly declared "the Constitution is an old worn out piece of paper, only an opinion." Her understanding of the rule of law is that of how well it bends her way.

Summer, YaYa and all you caring Freepers, we must not let HRC get back into the White House again. Once was enough!

243 posted on 10/20/2001 9:21:59 AM PDT by yoe
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To: randita
Do you recall when Sandy Berger and Maddy Albright traipsed around the country holding town meetings on what we should do about the Serbia-Kosovo situation?

ARGGGGGHHHHHHHH. I had forgotten this! Thanks for the memory!

244 posted on 10/20/2001 9:22:08 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: yoe
she told Fox News she would not be interviewed if Sean Hannity could ask her questions.

Do you know that for a fact?

245 posted on 10/20/2001 9:25:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dog Gone
Anybody seen James Carville lately?

He was on CSPAN two weeks ago, asking Bill Clinton softball questions and basically kissing his butt.

246 posted on 10/20/2001 9:27:03 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Ah, darn. I was sure he had climbed into a cave somewhere.

Oh well. If he was only on CSPAN, then you probably represented 10% of the entire national audience.

247 posted on 10/20/2001 9:34:02 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
It was that Clinton love fest they had at some college. It was gawd awful, what with him telling us what HE would be doing now and how "we" are going to win this thing.
248 posted on 10/20/2001 9:35:24 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: lavrenti
What's a "Jongor Pont"?
249 posted on 10/20/2001 9:40:56 AM PDT by jaime1959
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To: Howlin
You are much stronger than me. I simply cannot bear to watch Clinton for more than a few seconds before I either have to flip the channel or leave the room. I'm serious.
250 posted on 10/20/2001 9:44:51 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: yoe
Summer, YaYa and all you caring Freepers, we must not let HRC get back into the White House again

I'm already preparing my placard..

The Constitution negates Hillary's campaign
.........she ALREADY had a two term presidency...
........lol
251 posted on 10/20/2001 9:49:14 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Torie
Gore, Bush aides testify on debate

The Associated Press

DALLAS -- Advisers to Vice President Al Gore and President-elect George W. Bush testified before a federal grand jury about Bush debate materials mailed to the Gore campaign before the first presidential debate.

The grand jury in Austin, Texas, is considering criminal charges, possibly including mail fraud or lying to a federal investigator.

Meeting in private, the panel heard testimony Thursday from former Rep. Tom Downey, D-N.Y., about an Austin-postmarked package he received Sept. 13. Downey was helping Gore prepare for debates against Bush.

The Gore campaign has said it had no role in the mailing.

The parcel, which Downey turned over to the FBI, contained a Bush debate preparation videotape and other classified debate materials.

"He testified as to the chronology that has already been made public," Downey's attorney, Marc Miller, told The Dallas Morning News.

Bush media consultant Mark McKinnon testified about former employee Juanita Yvette Lozano, who is the focus of the FBI investigation into the mailing.

Lozano, 30, was captured on an Austin post office security camera mailing a package on Sept. 11. She told investigators that she was sending a pair of pants to The Gap.

Democratic officials in Austin said Thursday that Lozano is a precinct chairwoman for the Democratic Party.

"I continue to maintain hope that her story is true, and will do so until I see some hard evidence to the contrary," said McKinnon, who apparently is not a target of the inquiry.

Source: http://quest.cjonline.com/stories/010601/gor_0106017624.shtml
252 posted on 10/20/2001 9:50:17 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: summer
Bump for later reading. Talk to you later.
254 posted on 10/20/2001 9:58:50 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: summer
"Hey, Osama! What about that Dingell-Norwood bill?"
- President Al Gore's speech of Sept. 12, 2001,
from a parallel universe of his own invention

255 posted on 10/20/2001 9:59:49 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: summer
The most blunt assessments were from Democrats who spoke on the condition that they not be identified. Several said the nation was fortunate to have Mr. Bush in power, and they questioned whether Mr. Gore would have surrounded himself with as experienced a foreign policy team as Mr. Bush did.

How can this be? All the Buchanan supporters and Libertarians assured us there was no difference between Goron and Dubya.

256 posted on 10/20/2001 10:01:30 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: summer
My husband asked me this morning if I heard the story about the 2 hard core democrats going around. I told him no and so he began telling it to me. Here it is
This couple was watching President G.W.Bush give his famous speech to the Nation after the attack, and the wife said to the husband: :Wasn't the speech great? I am glad he is President and it didn't go the other way in Florida." To which the husband replied: "Shut up Tipper."
257 posted on 10/20/2001 10:05:14 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Paranoid-Pessimist
First half of the article kisses up to Bush. Second half kisses Gore. Leave it to the NY Times for their attempts at balance. GORE WOULD HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE, JUST LIKE HE WAS IN THE DEBATES, DURING THE CAMPAIGN, AND THE ELECTION'S AFTERMATH!

Exactly! And what's really being said? Gracious dimocraps grant Bush is OK and finish article - for last impression - Gore could have done the same or better. Psy-ops by the clymers setting up for 2002/2004.

258 posted on 10/20/2001 10:05:21 AM PDT by Tunehead54
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To: summer
Many Democrats who once dismissed Mr. Bush as too naïve and too dependent on advisers to steer the United States through an international crisis are now praising his and his advisers' performance.

One hallmark of a good leader is the ability to wisely delegate responsibily to subordinates.

Perhaps out of a desire to rally around Mr. Bush, not one of more than 15 prominent Gore loyalists interviewed said their candidate would have done a better job.

I'll submit that they simply can not argue with the truth.

259 posted on 10/20/2001 10:06:17 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Faraday
And we still have people who post here that refuse to vote for moderate Republican candidates for Senate; this is why. I can't believe that Bush is submitting names for positions in his administration that won't be heard for a year or more.
260 posted on 10/20/2001 10:06:36 AM PDT by marajade
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