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Wicked Witch of the West: Hanoi Jane Exposed in New Book
Hanoijane.net ^ | HENRY MARK HOLZER and ERIKA HOLZER,PhilDragoo

Posted on 10/30/2001 10:05:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

"AID AND COMFORT":
JANE FONDA IN NORTH VIETNAM
McFarland & Co. is now accepting pre-publication orders for
"Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam.

Please visit www.hanoijane.net to view a flyer containing information about the book, a pre-publication order form, and ordering information. I encourage those of you who want this book to succeed to promptly forward this notice to your email lists, and to ask the recipients to promptly forward it to others, and so on down the line. Also, feel free to print, copy, and distribute the flyer/order form, and ask libraries to purchase "Aid and Comfort." I cannot stress enough the importance of pre-publication orders. For one thing, they will affect the quantity of the book's first printing. For another, pre-publication orders may influence the publisher's promotional and related efforts on behalf of the book. Thus, it will be very helpful if those of you who intend to purchase "Aid and Comfort": Jane Fonda in North Vietnam order it now, and encourage others to do so. Thanks. HANK AND ERIKA HOLZER

A member of the New York Bar and a First Amendment Fellow of the National Press Club, Henry Mark Holzer is professor emeritus at Brooklyn Law School and co-author of “AID AND COMFORT”: JANE FONDA IN NORTH VIET NAM. Erika Holzer, author most recently of EYE FOR AN EYE and co-author of “AID AND COMFORT”, is a lawyer, novelist, and essayist. They may be contacted at Hankholzer@aol.com.
Jane Fonda is at it again.
Nearly thirty years ago, she went to North Viet Nam and aided a Communist anti-American propaganda campaign. (See www.hanoijane.net) Now, in the aftermath of the September 11th terrorist attacks, she is once again undermining the United States — this time, by blurring a crucially important distinction.

On September 20th, Fonda reportedly told an Atlanta radio station that Americans should “try to understand the underlying causes” of the terrorist attacks which, in her view, must “be dealt with as a crime. And when there’s a crime, you don’t bomb a city or a country — you use very, very clever intelligence, undercover-type operations to get the criminals and punish them. . . .” It would be a mistake, she opined, for America to retaliate militarily.

Put aside that Fonda characterized American response as “saber rattling” and “calls for vengeance.” Put aside her implication that the “underlying causes” of the attacks were poverty and hunger rather than hatred for Western values and culture. Put aside that Fonda knows nothing about intelligence operations. What Fonda is saying is that the terrorists are not soldiers to be attacked militarily, but mere criminals.

There is a profoundly important distinction to be made between an act of war and the commission of a criminal act. Indeed, that Fonda blurred this distinction is far less important than why she did.

President Bush has consistently characterized the terrorism as an act of war against the United States. By any customary definition of “war,” he is correct. War is armed military combat, regardless of whether the combatants have issued an official declaration (which, incidentally, the terrorists have done). Let Fonda tell the dead, the missing, the wounded veterans from Korea, that they were not at war with the North Koreans and Chinese Communists. Let her tell the mourners at the Viet Nam Memorial Wall that their loved ones were not at war with the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese. And let her tell the dead beneath the rubble of the World Trade Center that they were not killed in a radical Islamic “holy war.”

Declared or not, a war exists when armed belligerents mount an attack — as in killing stewardesses and pilots, hijacking aircraft, and crashing them into buildings filled with thousands of people.

A “crime” is very different. It is a violation of domestic law punishable by fine and/or imprisonment and sometimes death. It is prosecuted in court, and the proceedings are hedged with constitutional and other safeguards — notably, due process of law, non-self incrimination, search warrants supported by probable cause, etc.

It is this important distinction between a state of war and the commission of a crime that is being blurred by Fonda and likeminded Leftists. If the terrorist killings are not treated as acts of war but rather as the commission of mere domestic crimes, the terrorists would be entitled to the safeguards ensured by our criminal justice system — with the outcome as uncertain as O. J. Simpson’s trial for the brutal murder of two people. On the other hand, if the attacks on American soil are considered acts of war, military response, unhampered by the safeguards afforded criminals, is necessary and justified.

Based on this war/crime dichotomy, the radical Islamic terrorists would stand a far better chance in our criminal justice system than on the receiving end of the military’s smart bombs and special forces operations. That is what Fonda and people of her ilk want: an escape hatch for the terrorists. And that is why, when she equates the killing of thousands of Americans by the soldiers of radical Islam with the domestic crime of murder, and when she rails against a military response to an act of war waged against the United States of America, Jane Fonda stands exposed as being soft on terrorists.


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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Yes good one. They would be much funnier on the show too.
101 posted on 10/31/2001 8:27:40 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Joe Montana
...Here's an ..ALOHA.. Ping 2-U...
102 posted on 10/31/2001 8:36:26 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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103 posted on 10/31/2001 8:50:43 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Snow Bunny
...I am now going to CBS-TV to see if they again do NOT cover Former First Lady HILLARY CLINTON being BOO'd off that New York Concert Stage in less than a New York Minute by our American Hero NYFD Firemen, Rescue Workers and NYPD Police Officers...

...in it's 10 pm TV Special Covering that PAUL McCARTNEY Night at Madison Square Garden in their Honor 2 Saturday's ago.

...Any Bets that she's again NOT shown...

...on CBS...?

104 posted on 10/31/2001 8:54:44 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Snow Bunny
Thank you for posting the target.

oh... there are more...



105 posted on 10/31/2001 9:00:01 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Bet you are right again my friend.

OH how I would love to march in their in their main studio and offices and ask the head honcho about it , in his face and see him squirm.

106 posted on 10/31/2001 9:17:27 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: glock rocks
The one in the top of your post #105 is the one a bunch of us put in as many bathrooms as we could along the coast of Calif. when I came back from Nam.

Thanks so much for posting these.

107 posted on 10/31/2001 9:22:35 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Snow Bunny; miss print; kristinn; Registered; Republic; goldilucky; reformjoy; onyx
...took just 20 Minutes to see that America's Divider HILLARY's being BOO'd by America's Heroes right off a New York Concert Stage in less than a New York Minute...

...was NOT shown again ...on CBS-TV.

108 posted on 10/31/2001 9:29:45 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I love that " less then a New York minute".

CBS must have it in the hidden recesses of their building.

109 posted on 10/31/2001 9:44:41 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Thanx for the heads up and the link! This is a real wake up call for us to support our soldiers overseas AND here on the homefront - they needed us then, and those of us who weren't old enough to help our Vietnam vets surely can make up for some of the sins of our elders by helping out now.

AAAAAHHH where is the barf alert here??? That picture on the jacket is enough to give me a cardiac arrest... have mercy!!!

110 posted on 10/31/2001 9:49:11 PM PST by dandelion
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To: Slapper
Yes, there is a reason. It's called Islam. Search the net for Clash of Civilizations and read it. Read the Qu'uran. They hate the West and the US most of all. They want to destroy us. Nothing deeper than that. Just pure, unadulterated hate, spoonfed to them from the earliest ages.

There is no way to reason with this kind of enemy. The only thing that will prevent them from carrying out more terrorist missions, deadlier as time goes on, is to eradicate them. By "them", I mean those Muslims oriented toward terrorism and violence (and there are a lot of them all around the world). They must be taught that terrorism will not be tolerated and that they will pay a heavy price. Hopefully, there are more of those famous "peace-loving" Muslims than have made themselves apparent to date, and they will overpower the more violent among them in order to save Islam itself from complete annihilation. But if that's what it takes...

111 posted on 10/31/2001 10:05:24 PM PST by constable tom
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To: constable tom
ALOHA
112 posted on 10/31/2001 10:31:41 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: constable tom
Will you be the judge of who is "eradicated" and who is not? Where will you draw the line between those who you believe deserve to die and those you will let live? You will never get them all, and the ones you miss will only hate you more. Then next time, 20,000 Americans will die, and again you will say, "Kill them all," and the next ones will hate you even more and so on and so on. But hey, as long as we make sure we kill more of theirs than they kill of ours, it will be alright, yeah?
113 posted on 10/31/2001 11:10:16 PM PST by Slapper
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To: JA
"That never happened"

and you are 100% sure that Hanoi Jane did not hire some PR type to spread the rumor that it was false?
This thread is NOT for defending the traitor Hanoi Jane, aka Taliban Jane.
115 posted on 10/31/2001 11:23:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Slapper
"as long as we make sure we kill more of theirs than they kill of ours, it will be alright"

as long as we keep killing the terrorists and those who harbor and supply them.
terrorists are NOT to be defended on this thread or on Free Republic
116 posted on 10/31/2001 11:26:25 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I am not defending terrorists. I condemn the actions they took just strongly as you do. What I am saying is that we have to be careful that we don`t help to create a whole new generation that will be even more fanatical and kill even more Americans than this current crop already have. If we keep killing their people, you can guarantee they will keep killing ours. Sooner or later nobody will be left standing and that will be a very hollow victory indeed.
117 posted on 11/01/2001 12:34:45 AM PST by Slapper
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To: Slapper
"What I am saying is that we have to be careful that we don`t help to create a whole new generation that will be even more fanatical and kill even more Americans than this current crop already have."

This is what they have been doing for generations and will do for generations to come.
It is their way of life. This is why you see pictures of children burning American flags and carrying weapons.
118 posted on 11/01/2001 12:53:32 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: JA
You are the only one who has stated this is not true. I have been told numerous times this is indeed true...including family.

Now here's the dilema...discard thirty years of teachings because JA said so....

Naaaa...I'll hang with what I got. Your comment has been noted though.

SR

119 posted on 11/01/2001 1:16:07 AM PST by sit-rep
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Hanoi Jane went halfway around the world to side with those poor people whose country was being attacked by outsiders. How noble of her. Somehow I think she owes something to her own country. The story of Jane and the POW's has been debunked as an urban legend, but I think she would have done it if she had the chance. Her trip did harm POW's because Hanoi felt free to abuse them after Jane convinced them that US did not support the war. We are at war again and it is important that we realize that there are a lot of janes out there today. Old Eagle believes in God and Country. Apple pie is OK too.
120 posted on 11/01/2001 1:50:08 AM PST by OldEagle
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