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Freeper Research on Anthrax Perps - Updated 9/17/01
Various FR Posters | 9/17/01 | Various FR Posters

Posted on 11/16/2001 9:32:40 PM PST by Alamo-Girl

The affirmative statements in the following profile are meant to convey that the majority view on the threads are thus and so. The conditional words, such as may be or in the alternative ... are used to convey alternative views where there is not an overwhelming consensus from prior posts. At the end are the significant competing theories presented so far.

This is not meant to obtain an indictment or plead a case before a jury ... it is to show the consensus additional profile information based on research done by many contributing Freepers.

Consensus Profile of the Anthrax Perp:

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language, he may be a proficient computer user or coder especially if Al Queda.

The downward slant from left to right in the anthrax letters has been debated at length. If you regularly write from right to left your hand would be trained to maintain a horizontal line. But, if you attempt to write from left to right and it is not your first language than you may have a downward slant from left to right. Try this yourself. Take a pen and paper and begin writing from right to left. We have done it and found that as natural left to right writers we automatically follow a radius instead of horizontal line when writing right to left, ending up with a right to left downward slant. The anthrax letter writer's first language is not one that is written from left to right.

The alternative theory is that the perp is left handed.

The 'G' and '6' as handwritten on the letters and envelopes are peculiar and perhaps indicate an arabic cursive normal usage.

He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems – of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures.

The alternative theory is that the terrorist cell had one and only one vial of the anthrax and they were rushed to use it for some reason, it could be that the very fine stuff settles to the bottom of the vial. The lab analysis of each specimen will eventually show if the only difference between envelopes is size of the spores - or if the batches were processed differently.

He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Malik’s help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax.

Dr. Malik has been in the U.S. since the 70's or so and is long established here. He is probably not a party to the terrorists. However, as head of the Islamic Center of Central NJ and being from Pakistan and having made it as a doctor here ... we wonder if a newcomer to the country living in that area, attending that mosque and wanting to become a doctor ... may have asked him for a job referral or such.

There probably are other people in his cell who may already be in custody - one with Florida license plates and others from Canada.

Several arrests of Pakistani nationals were made in Trenton/Hamilton two weeks ago --some in the Greenwood Village apartments, and some at 1001 N. Olden Street. The N. Olden Street arrests took place after a witness observed a man gingerly placing letters enclosed in a ziploc bag into his car. The car had Florida license plates.

Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton.

Ali Ayub Khan also listed as one of his addresses the same Chicago apartment house as Sabash Gurung is staying in with his brother. Gurung is the Nepalese who was arrested at O'Hare Airport with a large stash of weapons (knives, a stun gun, etc.). The FBI said (or implied) that the Ali Khan who lives in the same apartment house as Gurung is a different Ali Khan, that it's a coincidence of names. But this seems not to be the case -- in fact, there is a newspaper article on Khan, dated well before Gurung was in the news, which gives that Chicago address for him.

There may be a chain of infection following the medical route – like there is following the mail route.

In DelRay Beach, Florida – a pharmacist (Gregg Chatterton at Huber Healthmart Drugs) claimed to have talked to Atta and another hijacker when they came into his pharmacy with ailments last August. Mostly, we heard about Atta, who had red hands. But the other hijacker, Marwan Al-Shehhi, had symptoms of inhalation anthrax (cough) that would have required him to visit a doctor in his area. The pharmacist said that a man resembling Al-Shehhi had returned to have a prescription filled, but his name was not found in their records – leading the investigators to think he had used an alias. The pharmacist said the red hands looked like a result from washing with bleach – that it did not look like cutaneous anthrax.

In Chester PA on 11/14/01 - teams of FBI agents complete with hazmat gear and tents, broke down door(s), swabbed and seized evidence at two homes and the city hall. One house was shared by City Health Commissioner Irshad Shaikh and his brother Masood. The other was the home of city accountant Asif Kazi. They are all from Pakistan. Kazi’s wife had a prescription for Cipro. Kazi had been seen dumping a cloudy liquid and handing a silver canister to someone.

Freepers wonder if this Could he be THE Asif Kazi, or is it a very common Pakistani name?

Asif Kazi (or Qazi or Khazi) is a very common last name. It means "judge" and is the designation for lots of low-level functionaries - like the English surnames "Judge" or "Cooper" or "Fletcher", it's just a last name based on a profession.

However, the dialogue on the discussion thread is troubling:

It has a single entry under "replies". If you click it, you see a reply consisting of the original message quoted with carets, and no new text. It seems most each reply is the same, with "mustafa's" original message quoted, but no new content. One reply had the same message "mustafa" entered, but this time not quoted (no carets, it appeared to be original content), and signed by "Bharathi Kumar". (BTW almost all the names seemed to be middle-eastern types.) The next message -- a reply to "Bharathi Kumar" -- (this one by a poster named "bluess") quoted the original message, again attributing it to "mustafa".

The next message after that one again had the text in quoted format, but attributed it to ">ASHISH BHARDWAJ" -- which happens to be the same name shown as the author of the post, although the Author: field showed it in lowercase. The reply to that message had "mustafa's" message, but this time once again formatted as caretless original text, and, missing the linebreaks that the previous messages had. It was signed by "Venkat", and the Author: field showed VENKAT in uppercase.

Conjecture, for discussion:

1. It could be a series of coded messages, with the "message" part being the email address, or the author name, or perhaps there's some subtle changes in the body of the text (an extra space here or there, etc.)

2. It could be a "recruiting station", with volunteers directed to post a followup message to that thread, so that they could be contacted via email. Why do something like that? So that the "recruiter" could see who "applies" without disclosing his own identity. The contributing Freeper has heard that "no footprint" communications like that happen on Usenet; and believes there's a newsgroup dedicated to such comms. There is no way for an observer to know who the recipient is, because the message is readable to the entire world, even though only the intended recipient will know how to decipher it.

Dr. Shaikh PhD. has been the Commissioner of Health since 1994. He received his undergrad and postgraduate diplomas in Community Medicine in Pakistan. He received his Masters and PhD in Public Health from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is fellow of the Public Health Leadership Institute (PHLI). PHLI is an executive leadership program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the University of California at Berkeley. Dr. Shaikh also holds a faculty appointment at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

Welcome to the Johns Hopkins University Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies"...Sponsored by The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation & The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation..."

The Hopkins School of Hygiene and public health is across the street from the hospital. They do not have any labs for microbes there. They have no anthrax and neither does the hospital. This guy may be on the faculty at the School of Hygiene but there is certainly no institutional support for terrorist activites. The former Dean of that school, Henderson, was the one who wiped out smallpox. It is a great school except for some departments that seem to attract all kinds of socialists, communists, etc. The Robert Wood Johnson foundation endows all kinds of activities including wings at Hopkins for peds. The former head of a department at Hopkins headed the RWJ foundation. They probably do not provide cover for terrorists either.

Tests are now being performed for Dr. Gerald Weisfogel who believes he may have had skin anthrax earlier than the mailings. There are three Gerald M. Weisfogel's listed in NJ - Franklin Park, Kendall Park and Metuchen. Dr. Gerald Weisfogel is chief of cardiology at the JFK Medical Center in New Jersey, which is in Edison, New Jersey. Edison is just across the river from New Brunswick.

Good Morning America (7:00 AM ET) – ABC November 12, 2001 Monday

…ROSS: (VO) Dr. Weisfogel says he diagnosed his black scab as a spider bite and now wonders if this is the same common misdiagnosis in other anthrax cases. What's more, he wonders if the bioterrorists might have been in his office.

Dr. WEISFOGEL: Have I come across patients from countries who might be doing this? Yes.

ROSS: You've treated people like that?

Dr. WEISFOGEL: Yes.

ROSS: In this time frame?

Dr. WEISFOGEL: Yes. But there's no proof that any of them have had any connection…

Kendall Park, Franklin Park, Edison, and Metuchen are all close to each other, going north on Rte. 1. So all the addresses are probably for the same guy: hospital in Edison, offices in Metuchen and either or Franklin Park or Kendall Park, and home in the fourth place

There are significant labs in Piscataway, across the river from New Brunswick, the main campus of RWJ. Robert Wood Johnson has two high-profile microbiology labs in Piscataway -- the CABM(Center forAdvanced Biotechnology and Medicine) and the Waksman Institute. The Waksman Institute is a "microbe farm," producing germ "products" for industry and research.

The Waksman fermentation facility is troubling, and contributing Freepers hope the FBI has included ALL reference labs that have fermentation specialties. Most solid state fermentation is done with fungal spores, but the same technique would apply to bacterial (anthrax) spores.

Metuchen is right up the road to the northeast. (And down the road about 12 miles along Route 1 is the Islamic Society and Franklin Park.)

The perp accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway – he drove in. He may have gone to New York to pick up or deliver the anthrax. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Kathy. The perp, may be working for RWJ University Hospital and had a business contact with Kathy’s hospital.

A possible suspect in the Anthrax mailings is an Iraqi-American microbiologist who lives in Trenton, New Jersey (at last notice.) His name, or at least his alias, is "Waly Samar". In 1993, Mr. Samar was studying microbiology at Hunter College in NYC - less than a thousand feet from the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital where Kathy Nguyen worked - the latest victim of inhalation Anthrax. Waly Samar operated integrally with the Iraqi intelligence agents Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ramzi Yousef in planning, coordinating and executing the World Trade Center bombing on February 26th, 1993, the second anniversary of Kuwait's liberation from Iraqi occupation.

The perp is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) – he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin Park.

The zip code on the return address from the Daschle letter is 08852, Monmouth Junction NJ – the location of the Islamic Society of Central NJ – headed by Dr. Malik, and including a mosque and a school.

There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting.

He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named "Greendale" in Abingdon, VA (a tri-state area.) He didn’t grab that name out of the air – neither brook nor dale would be common words to him.

In the alternative, he might have intentionally changed the name of a nearby school "Greenbrook" to "Greendale." The Greenbrook school only goes to the 4th grade.

Another possibility: Greendale and Franklin, WI are right next to each other. The NJ school is Greenbrook School, not Greendale. Could it be some Freudian slip? There are 15,000 Muslims in the area.

The block lettering may indicate that he is a tutor for elementary level students or has (or is undertaking) an engineering or architecture education.

The emphasis on the letters might have been intentional – pointing to ATTA.

If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular – going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc.

He may be dead or missing.

Medical anthrax trail - there should also be a star for New Brunswick!

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Competing theories offered by contributing Freepers:

The perp is North Korean or possibly from China. English is not his primary language and neither is Arabic.

In the alternative, he is an operative for Cuba. Castro had a mole deep in the Department of Defense for years and has become close to Islamic fundamentalists. Cuba has advanced biochemical capabilities.

In the alternative, he is a white disgruntled American crackpot, keeping in mind all the anarchist websites and crackpot groups in this country.

Disturbing anti-NY Press rapper website that uses the term penacilin

In the alternative, it is an Arabic ME guy who has been here a long time and who is not happy with his career, someone not directly connected to the 9-11 events.

In the alternative, he is an anti-Arab who is pretending to be an Arab.

In the alternative, the perp is has some connection with BioPort, which manufactures the anthrax vaccine. The biography of the Faud El-Hibri:

Chairman and CEO of BioPort, Mr. El-Hibri was born in Germany in 1958 and is an American citizen… Mr. El-Hibri has participated in the management of a number of international biologics and telecommunications organizations since 1989. Prior to leading the BioPort privatization, he organized and directed the management buyout of Porton Products Ltd. (Porton), a mid-sized biotechnology company in the U.K… During his association with Porton, Mr. El-Hibri was instrumental in marketing and distributing substantial quantities of two types of bio-defense in the early nineties... Among recent accomplishments, he developed and co-managed as a principal, the implementation of the first digital cellular operating network in Moscow, Russia... It was with the support of East West Resources Corporation (EWR), a consulting and business development company which Mr. El-Hibri founded in Washington, D.C. in 1990, that he developed and managed the aforementioned projects and companies, among others, in the pharmaceutical and telecommunication industries. Prior to founding his own company, Mr. El-Hibri helped establish regional offices in Singapore and Sydney for Booz-Allen & Hamilton. As a Senior Associate and resident project manager, Mr. El-Hibri led consulting projects in Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Sydney, and Wellington. Before joining Booz-Allen, he was a manager of Citicorp in New York (Mergers and Acquisitions) and in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia (Operations and Credit)….”

The perp may not be Al Queda. Osama bin Laden seems to go for the Wal-Mart versions of WMDs (ricin, etc.)

The sender does not appear to be an American. The date is written 09-11-01. Americans would have written 9/11/01, without the leading 0, and with slashes instead of dashes.

A telegrapher [commercial or railroad] or military communicator would have used the zero, but those trained since the 1970s routinely add a slash to the zero to differentiate it from the letter *O*. A European would follow the month/day/format of 11.09.01 and the similar US military format would routinely abbreviate the month to eliminate the confusion: 11 SEP 2001. Some computer-world oriented procedures also follow the logical day/month/year format, though since the Y2K panic, the year is most commonly written with all four digits.

Much has been made of the fact that the date is written in the American order of month-day-year, but most foreigners would be aware of that and, in fact, would have become accustomed to that order after a few years here -- they'd be repeatedly told by Americans that they were writing dates incorrectly if they used the day-month-year order. But nobody misunderstands a date written with dashes instead of slashes; nobody even comments on such a thing, so a foreigner could easily not realize that it looks foreign.

Note though that telegraphers [and some amateur radio operators] also sometimes send the quicker *dash* character [*----* in international Morse] rather than *slash* [-**-*] [or *stroke* in Brit/Euro parlance] and thereby routinely write that char as the seperator. And at least some air traffic controllers will use dashes, rather than slash/stroke.

ATTC sold the anthrax to Iraq.

The anthrax strain kept in Ames, Iowa is called 'Ames' though that is not exactly correct. It is a strain of the Ames group, 1 of 7 groups that exist for type A anthrax. Another group used by countries for weapons production is Vollum. Ames originates in the Middle East primarily. All type A anthrax eventually originates in Africa. The Ames substrain was found in Iowa 50 years ago and widely disseminated to many researchers. It is in fact the standard for vaccine testing worldwide.

In the alternative, the anthrax came from the former Soviet Union.

If the perp loaded the envelopes in a house or apartment, there should be some spilled or leaked anthrax that should infect other people in the vicinity sooner or later. But if he loaded the envelopes in a special science lab, there might not be any spilled anthrax at all.

The perp would require either specialized equipment purpose-designed for biological engineering and efficient chemical processing, or some really clever adaptations of off-the-shelf equipment for such uses- in which case he's also an accomplished machinist, or has a really talented and well-equipped one at his disposal.

And such equipment can't be had just anywhere. Neither are purchases for such equipment generally made with more or less untracable cash, so there'd likely be a paper trail back to the financial sources behind such an effort- in which case it wouldn't be *just one lone crazed gunman labman*.

KNF Neuberger, Inc. markets the necessary laboratory equipment. They are at Two Black Forest Road in Trenton NJ which is located very close to the Kuser Road, where the accountant was infected.



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To: Alamo-Girl
There isn't very much information on the Florida anthrax at AMI. I did find an article from the Florida Sun Sentinal dated October 9, 2001.

Excerpt:

Newsweek also reported on its Web site Monday that the American Media office received a ``weird love letter to Jennifer Lopez'' a week before the Sept. 11 attacks. Inside was what was described as a ``soapy, powdery substance'' and a Star of David charm. The letter was handled by both Stevens and Blanco, according to unidentified workers cited by Newsweek

The article also mentions the intern and the e-mail left but indicates that the FBI doesn't believe he was involved. link to cached article here

101 posted on 11/17/2001 7:36:24 PM PST by terilyn
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To: terilyn
Thank you so much for the article! The intern was later cleared as I recall.
102 posted on 11/17/2001 7:43:25 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Yes, the intern was later cleared. I have been searching for an article I read but cannot find it. It was an article indicating that later that same intern had been admitted to a Florida hospital for what they believed was pneumonia. I remeber posters here, (including myself), wondering how a young man would develop pneumonia in Florida during the months of September/October, (I can't remember the exact date and can't find the article!), when the weather was still very warm. I never did see a follow up article.
103 posted on 11/17/2001 7:59:04 PM PST by terilyn
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To: terilyn
I recall that also. And my recollection is that he did not have anthrax.
104 posted on 11/17/2001 8:03:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mitchell; Alamo-Girl; daves_brother
The letter is probably a bogus copycat letter, unrelated to the real anthrax attack.

Maybe I'm missing something, but how can this "copycat" letter be dismissed as "unrelated" to the real anthrax attack? If this was received on the same date the real anthrax letters where mailed, then how could the copycat copy something that wasn't yet made public?

Unless they had prior knowledge of what was going to be mailed from New Jersey a few days later.

105 posted on 11/17/2001 8:32:29 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer
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To: Alamo-Girl
Great work as usual, Alamo-Girl!
106 posted on 11/17/2001 8:59:14 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer
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To: Alamo-Girl
Excellent as usual AG, keep up the good work!!!!!
107 posted on 11/17/2001 8:59:57 PM PST by Yellow Rose of Texas
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To: ConservativeLawyer
Thank you so much for your analysis!!!

The outbreak of anthrax, and death of Robert Stevens, at AMI preceded the hoax St. Petersburg letters. I wonder if the St. Petersburg mailer was a copycat to that event.

Even so, the selection of targets, letter style and such would point to some coordination with the New Jersey mailers, i.e. terror network, even though the St. Petersburg letters were a hoax.

In the hunt for the anthrax mailers, the St. Petersburg lead is not applicable. They should however be prosecuted - fiercely IMHO if indeed a part of a terror network.

108 posted on 11/17/2001 9:00:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas
Thank you so much! Hugs!!!
109 posted on 11/17/2001 9:02:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
You're welcome.

You state that "In the hunt for the anthrax mailers, the St. Petersburg lead is not applicable."

While I agree that since the St. Pete letter contained no anthrax, it was a hoax. I am not, however, so quick to agree with you that it should be dismissed as not applicable.

Your point that it could be a copycat of the AMI attack is well taken. But it is my recollection that in the time period soon after the death of Bob Stevens no one was sure how the anthrax got into AMI (indeed, I don't think the method of transmission has ever been firmly established). I remember speculation about it being placed in the air conditioning unit.

The selection of a media target for the St. Pete letter, the downward sloping block lettering on the envelope, the broken English make me think the connection is more than coincidental.

What I'm trying to say is I don't see the St. Pete letter as a red herring but as another piece of the puzzle. But then again, what do I know?

Two other things I've not seen mentioned: 1) have law enforcement been able to obtain any fingerprints off the envelopes or letters; 2) I thought I heard Sean Hannity mention on his radio show that he had received suspicious letters with similar handwriting postmarked from Indiana and New Jersey. He didn't open them and they were turned over to authorities.

110 posted on 11/17/2001 9:23:35 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer
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To: archy
Since the A and the two T's are highlighted, maybe the writer has a grudge against the phone company.
111 posted on 11/17/2001 9:32:04 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: ConservativeLawyer
I haven't heard a peep about fingerprints! They did however seize latex gloves when they busted the accountant in Chester, PA. That makes me wonder if they have no prints.

I'm not aware of any followup on the Hannity letters.

And I certainly agree with you that the style of the St. Petersburg letters is akin to the real New Jersey anthrax letters! And one of the cars involved in a bust there had Florida plates.

IMHO, we are likely seeing how an Al Queda operation works - with cells in multiple states and locations and some coordination between them. In this case, the terror is multiplied by the hoax letters intermingled with the real ones.

I didn't mean to dismiss the St. Petersburg letters altogether - only that the profile of the anthrax perp is a separate project from the profile of the hoax perp... maybe. The network may include both - or it may be the same perp! Hmmmm....

112 posted on 11/17/2001 9:36:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Indeed, the St. Pete letter is outside the focus of this thread, i.e. the profile of the perps who actually mailed the anthrax.

I suspect you are right that they have found no prints. And I suppose if someone saw a person mailing letters wearing rubber gloves they would have come forward by now. I was hoping maybe the fingerprints of the mail carrier who first retrieved the letter from whatever mailbox it was mailed from might be found so that the site of the mailing could be better pinpointed.

113 posted on 11/17/2001 10:07:30 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer
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To: ConservativeLawyer
You bring out some excellent points.  You are correct.  Based on the timing, I would say this was a hoax, and not a copycat.  If the St. Petersburg Times letter was opened by Troxler on Tuesday, October 9, that would mean it would have to have been mailed on Monday, or perhaps Saturday -- the day after Robert Stevens died.  I would tend to believe that the letter writer's reference to "1st case of disease" was in reference to Bob Stevens, and the letter was sent in a follow-up to Steven's death.

If this was received on the same date the real anthrax letters where mailed...

The Daschle and Leahy letters were postmarked October 9, but the Brokaw and New York Post letters were postmarked on September 18 -- long before Troxler received his letter.  As you mention, though, the information about the Brokaw and Post letters were not public at the time the Troxler letter was mailed.  (I believe that information was put forth on October 11 or 12.)

Interestingly enough, originally the focus of the NBC case was on a letter postmarked from St. Petersburg on September 20.  So it appears that there may be some connection between the two sets of letters (Trenton/anthrax and St. Pete/hoaxes).  I'm not sure I believe there is a connection, but it would not surprise me to find out there is.  The proximity of the postmarks (9/18 and 9/20, and 10/9 and 10/8 or 10/6) is certainly enough to pique my interest.

As I was typing this reply, I noticed you had posted again and said "Indeed, the St. Pete letter is outside the focus of this thread", but now that you have pointed out the possible connection, perhaps it is not outside the focus.  I mean, if there is a connection between the two, the St. Pete letters might have an impact on the profile of the Trenton mailer.

Like I said, I'm not sure I tend to believe there is a connection, but then again...

114 posted on 11/17/2001 10:29:25 PM PST by daves_brother
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To: ConservativeLawyer
Maybe I'm missing something, but how can this "copycat" letter be dismissed as "unrelated" to the real anthrax attack? If this was received on the same date the real anthrax letters where mailed, then how could the copycat copy something that wasn't yet made public?

The letter to Troxler was received on the same day the letters to Daschle and Leahy were mailed. But Bob Stevens of American Media had already died of anthrax (a week earlier, I think) by that date. It was already thought that American Media might have been sent the anthrax in a letter. And this was when there was a spate of letters with white powder that turned out to be hoaxes, many presumably by random copycats. (It's possible that the sender of the letter to Troxler was aware of the N.Y. Post letter and/or the Tom Brokaw letter, but I think it was a few days too early for that, if I remember correctly.)

I see nothing to connect this particular letter with the real anthrax letters. The handwriting is different (and looks American to me). The message in the letter was very different too. None of the real anthrax letters was from St. Petersburg (although I think other hoax letters were, including one to the N.Y. Times).

I think the only things that distinguish this hoax letter from others are that we have a photograph of the envelope and that the threat in the letter itself was memorable. It may also have been one of the earlier hoaxes.

I do think that it is possible that some of the letters with white powder that turned out not to be anthrax were mailed by the actual anthrax senders, to sow additional fear and uncertainty, and also to tie up investigative and medical resources on checking them out. It may also have been hoped that people would get complacent and end up ignoring suspicious letters.

115 posted on 11/18/2001 12:24:21 AM PST by Mitchell
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To: Nogbad
There was no letter found at American Media. What they found was powder containing anthrax spores inside a computer keyboard.

No one has mentioned that Microsoft also received an anthrax letter. It has major business relationships with Israel and Intel released the Intel 4 Processor in Israel.

This from an Arab Website:
Updated Alert: Intel support of Israeli ethnic cleansing : (July 22)

DASCHLE:
Article

Daschle holds the Senate seat once occupied by Arab-American Sen. James Abourezk, for whom Daschle formerly served as legislative assistant. When Abourezk retired, Daschle asked him if he thought Arab-American donors would help Daschle's run for the Senate. "Not as much as the other side would," Abourezk replied bitterly. Daschle obviously is a good listener. While in the Senate he has received $392,630 in donations from pro-Israel political action committees, according to filings by those PACs with the Federal Election Commission

Wondering why no Anthrax for Joe or Al?

GORE-LIEBERMAN HIRE ANTI-SEMITE:

A senior adviser to the American presidential campaign of Al Gore and Joe Lieberman is now lobbying the State Department to reduce military aid to Israel. The demands include a possible halt to the supply of helicopter gunships to Israel if they are used against Arabs - the same Arab mobs that have been shooting and killing Jews during the past ten days. The Zionist Organization of America President Morton A. Klein said, "Vice President Gore claims to be pro-Israel, yet his new campaign adviser is lobbying to slash US military aid to Israel." James Zogby, who was appointed last week as Senior Advisor to the campaign on Ethnic Americans, has praised the Hizb'Allah terrorist group as "the Lebanese armed resistance;" Hizb'Allah is now holding three kidnapped Israeli soldiers. He is the founder and president of the Arab American Institute and has written many articles condemning the nation of Israel. He is considered the leading lobbyist for the Palestinians and has publicly urged the Arab nations to refrain from normalizing relations with Israel. Zogby has come to the defense of Muslim terrorist groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad. A search of 'James Zogby' on the Internet wields a massive amount of literature backing the claims of his anti-semitism.

From Islamic Website:
MORE THAN 90 US SENATORS STAND BY ISRAEL
AIPAC hailed a bipartisan letter to President Clinton from Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) and Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD) and 94 US Senators. It expresses solidarity with the state and people of Israel and condemns the Palestinian leadership for encouraging the violence. The letter encourages US envoys to Egypt to stand solidly with Israel against the terrorist activities supported by Yasser Arafat.

* The U.S. should cease delivery of all armaments and military and economic aid to Israel immediately.

CALL, EMAIL, AND FAX YOUR LETTERS TO:

* President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
E-mail: president@w...

* Secretary of State Colin Powell
E-mail: secretary@s...
Bureau of Near East Affairs

* Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Ranking
E-mail: senator_leahy@l...

Please cc your correspondence to Al-Awda-Alerts@m...

Al-Awda, Palestine Right to Return Coalition
P.O. Box 1172
Orange, CT 06477

BTW:
The "Leahy Law," a provision in recent appropriations legislation, prohibits U.S. military assistance to foreign military units that violate human rights with impunity. Known by the name of its principal sponsor, Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy, the provision has become the most important legal tool used to promote respect for human rights through U.S. security assistance programs.

The Leahy Law's jurisdiction has slowly expanded since it first appeared as part of the 1997 Foreign Operations Appropriations Act (P.L. 104-208). Initially, the law applied only to the State Department's International Narcotics Control (INC) program. It was broadened in Fiscal Year 1998 to include all security assistance programs funded through the Foreign Operations Act, and in Fiscal Year 1999 was extended to include training programs authorized under the Defense Department Appropriations bill.

The Leahy Law in the 2001 Foreign Operations Appropriations Act (Sec. 563 of P.L. 106-429) states:

None of the funds made available by this Act may be provided to any unit of the security forces of a foreign country if the Secretary of State has credible evidence that such unit has committed gross violations of human rights, unless the Secretary determines and reports to the Committees on Appropriations that the government of such country is taking effective measures to bring the responsible members of the security forces unit to justice.

While the Foreign Operations law covers both training and assistance (such as weapons grants), the Leahy Law in the 2001 Defense Appropriations Act (Sec. 8092 of P.L. 106-259) covers only training, and states:

None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to support any training program involving a unit of the security forces of a foreign country if the Secretary of Defense has received credible information from the Department of State that a member of such unit has committed a gross violation of human rights, unless all necessary corrective steps have been taken.

He meant this to hurt, but those it could hurt the most turn out to be the *friendly* Arab Countries we have armed to the teeth, most particularly Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

On to the other letters:

VIACOM, Parent company of CBS was also the parent company of Medscape. Medscape is in Oregon.
Customers
--------

Many of our customers are key players in the healthcare industry.

Allina Health System, Minneapolis, MN
Arizona Medical Clinic, Peoria, AZ
Arkansas Blue Cross Blue Shield, Little Rock, AR
Austin Diagnostic Clinic, Austin, TX
Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX
Baylor Health Care System, Dallas, TX
Blair Medical Associates, Altoona, PA
Capital Region Healthcare Corporation, Concord, NH
Cardiology Associates of NE Arkansas, Jonesboro, AR
Carilion Health System, Roanoke, VA
Central Maine Healthcare, Lewiston, ME
Children's Hospital, Birmingham, AL
Christiana Care Health System, New Castle, DE
Christus Health Care System, Houston, TX
Cleveland Clinic, Cleveland, OH
Community Hospitals, Indianapolis, IN
Cox Health System, Springfield, MO
East Carolina School of Medicine, Greenville, NC
Eastern Maine Healthcare, Bangor, ME
ElderHealth, Inc., Baltimore, MD
Evans Internal Medicine & Pediatrics, Evans, GA
Health First, Inc., Melbourne, FL
Memorial Hermann Hospital System, Houston, TX
MeritCare Health System, Fargo, ND
The Methodist Hospital, Houston, TX
Mid-America Cardiology, Kansas City, MO
NASA, Houston, TX
New York University Medical Center, New York, NY
Noran Neurological, Minneapolis, MN
North Memorial Health Care, Minneapolis, MN
North Texas Medical Group, The Colony, TX
Oregon Health Sciences University, Portland, OR
Page-Campbell Cardiology Group, Nashville, TN
Palmetto Health Alliance, Columbia, SC
Promina Health System, Atlanta, GA
Providence Health System, Portland, OR
Queens Health Management, Honolulu, HI
Riverside Health System, Newport News, VA
Saint Vincent's Health System, Erie, PA
Sentara Enterprises, Inc., Virginia Beach, VA
Texas Children's Hospital, Houston, TX
Trumbull Memorial Hospital, Warren, OH
Union Health Center, New York, NY
Union Hospital Health Group, Terre Haute, IN
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, Little Rock, AR
University Community Hospital, Tampa, FL
**University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ, Newark, NJ
Yale New Haven Health System, New Haven, CT
Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center, Winston-Salem, NC
Washington Hospital Center, Washington, DC
Woodcreek Pediatrics, Puyallup, WA

Suddenly:
Title: Medscape Announces Termination Of Relationship With Viacom Inc

HILLSBORO, Ore., Nov 8, 2001-- Medscape, a leading provider of digital health record applications and online medical information, today announced that, effective immediately, it has agreed to a termination of its relationship with Viacom Inc.
???

Tom Brokaw was also the anchorman who wrote "The Greatest Generation".
Not exactly a terrorist's best friend.

New York Post is more often than not, pro-Israel. It could also have been a mis-send meant for the Jewish Post of New York.

ABC is an Eisner run company, Eisner being best known for his promotion of gays at Disney. Although there is no word for homosexual in Arabic, it IS one of those things they hypocritically condemn the US for.
Though addressed to Rather, he never got HIS missive nor the disease, (but he surely got a lot of PR mileage.) A child at a birthday party did. It could very easily have been picked up on a piece of TAPE in a mailroom and used to seal a gift or card. Not enough to infect an adult, perhaps not even touched by an adult, but enough to infect a 2 year old.

Hannity is an unswerving Netanyahu fan, and an uncompromising critic of the Muslims in this country who have so far refused to back this country.
How long between the Saudi Prince's visit and the *mystery* case of the Manhattan hospital worker? Might she have been in a crowd of Muslims who showed up at Ground Zero to see him?
And lastly for the moment, what exactly is it we call ex-pres bill?...As in:
"All the President's women (x42) [Free Republic]"
What is the return address on all the envelopes? Why does it have to be a route number?
There's more, but this is some stuff.

116 posted on 11/18/2001 10:27:35 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
> And lastly for the moment, what exactly is it we call ex-pres bill?...As in: "All the President's women (x42) [Free Republic]" What is the return address on all the envelopes? Why does it have to be a route number?

I should have explained this, but for this set of things, it has meaning only if you are an avid abacus user. Re: SETS.

117 posted on 11/18/2001 12:07:26 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Since the A and the two T's are highlighted, maybe the writer has a grudge against the phone company.

Well, that narrows it down to around 250 million possible suspects....

Possibly he was confusing those letters with the *muscle memory* of frequently writing some similar character in Arabic or another non-Roman character script language? Or perhaps a similarly shaped numerical character?

-archy-/-

118 posted on 11/18/2001 12:48:51 PM PST by archy
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To: Nogbad
I am looking at your letters.

Specifically the New York Post letter.

Look at the E

Clearly it was printed from bottom to top, every time.

No native born American ever would print an E that way, but it would be the natural way an Arabic printer would do it.

(Arabic script goes from right to left, from bottom to top).

Yes it could be a native trying to imitate the way an Arab would print, but would he be that clever?

By the way, the 3 letters and 3 envelopes were NOT all printed by the same person.

</i Note that there are some Americans with markedly different writing styles than most. See the following for an illustration, but railroad/Morse telegraphy has fallen pretty much into disuse since the midpoint of the 1950s [a pity; the beautiful cursive script was both highly readable and artistic in its own right] But I've also seen many Army message center pads with horrible hand-printing generally similar to that of the *anthrax letters*- from native English speakers. A well-studied graphologist would note major differences, I'm sure, though in the past I've worked with two documents examiners, and I ran some of this info past them, with two inconclusive and differing opinions about the handwriting in this case.

But check the following as an example of *industrial* or other influences on handwriting and penmanship, [and note the *rippled* lines/dashes- clearly the anthrax letter slinger is NOT an old-time railroad or Western Union *lightning slinger*] and other trades or subcultures also offer other differing examples of such specificality:


119 posted on 11/18/2001 1:16:39 PM PST by archy
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
thanks for this

AG: heads up post 116.

120 posted on 11/18/2001 1:21:06 PM PST by amom
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