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Freeper Research on Anthrax Perps - Updated 9/17/01
Various FR Posters | 9/17/01 | Various FR Posters

Posted on 11/16/2001 9:32:40 PM PST by Alamo-Girl

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To: archy; ratcat; backhoe; Medium Rare
Here you go! It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out this who-done-it. Who benefits from these attacks? After all they are trying to get FDA approval for the unsafe, ineffective, misbranded vaccine! Desperate measures, I would say!

A Compilation of Evidence and Comments on the Source of the Mailed Anthrax

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, 12 Nov 01

1. ANTHRAX STRAIN

--All letter samples are the same, and correspond to AMES in the N. Arizona State University database (which has been used for identification). That Ames sample was obtained from Porton Down (UK) in the mid-90's (the sample was marked "October 1932"); Porton had gotten it from USAMRIID.

--Many anthrax strains were isolated by labs in Ames, Iowa starting with one in 1928. There is much confusion about who has which sub-strain or which one is meant by "Ames."

--A 2000 paper by M. Hugh-Jones, PJ Jackson, P. Keim et al says that the Ames strain played a central role in the US BW program. Hugh-Jones says he learned that from David Huxsoll (Former Commander, USAMRIID). He also says Vollum 1B was the strain stockpiled.

--USAMRIID claims to have obtained the "Ames" strain around 1980 from the USDA lab in Ames, Iowa. They don't know when it was isolated. They did transfer the strain to Porton in the '80s. They claim have no information about the Ames strain prior to 1980.

--The Ames strain is highly virulent and is used now in the US biodefense program for testing vaccines etc.

--The Ames strain recurred in nature in 1997 on a Texas goat farm.

2. WEAPONIZATION

--The form in the senate letter: fine particles, very narrow size range (1.5-3 microns diameter), treated so it won't clump and will float.

--An ABC reporter who writes on anthrax vaccine has privately confirmed that four labs have told him that under the electron microscope the sample looks just like material obtained by UNSCOM in Iraq. The Iraqi material was spray-dried BT. I have been told that such particles are distinguishable from milled particles. The US process did not use milling.

--The senate sample contains silica, a drying agent used in the US process, and not bentonite (used by the Iraqis)

--The US weaponization process is secretBill Patrick, its inventor, says it involves a COMBINATION of chemicals. Therefore, further analysis should be able to determine whether or not the process used to make the letter anthrax was identical to the US secret process.

All the available information is consistent with a US government lab as the source, either of the anthrax itself or of the recipe for the US weaponization process.

3. TESTS IN PROGRESS?

--A study of genetic drift at certain locations in anthrax is said to be underway at Northern Arizona State Univ. This will give an idea of how many times the letter anthrax replicated, in comparison to the reference strainie, whether it was grown on a very large scale (as in a State program) or on a very small scale, as would be likely if recently made by a terrorist.

--Analysis of trace contaminants could be used to determine the method of production.

--Senator Bob Graham, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that 30-40 labs in US and perhaps 100 worldwide could have produced the anthrax mailed Daschle. Investigators can identify with great certainty which lab produced the anthrax, Graham said, but it will be a laborious, time-consuming process. (Chicago Tribune, 27 Oct 01).

4. LETTER ANALYSIS

--Analysts believe the letters were not written by a Middle-Easterner. The FBI now conjectures that the perpetrator was a lone domestic terrorist (obviously one with a scientific background and lab experience who could handle hazardous materials).

5. TIMING

--There was only 1 week between 11 Sept and Sept. 18th, when the first two letters (and probably a letter, never found, to AMI) were postmarked. This suggests that the anthrax was already in hand before Sept 11.

--Did the perpetrator have advance knowledge of the Sept 11 attacks? Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld has said that he does not believe al Qaeda was responsible for the anthrax attack, and other public officials have increasingly indicated that the perpetrator was probably domestic.

6. PUBLIC STATEMENTS

-- AT FIRST, US officials provided miscellaneous bits of information, some conflicting; then denied some of the earlier information, then clammed up. Chances are they know more than they want to say. They are clearly concentrating on domestic investigations, however (the US even rejected a UN resolution condemning the anthrax attack, on the grounds that it might have been domestic terrorism).

--The Secretary of Health and Human Services said that some of the relevant information is classified, and some is restricted by the FBI.

7. SPECULATION

--The perpetrator was not only an American scientist but one with access to US weaponized anthrax or one who had been taught by an expert how to make it.

--An astute observer has pointed out that the letters warned of anthrax or the need to take antibiotics, making it possible for those who handled the letters to protect themselves; and that it seems unlikely that the perpetrator would have anticipated that the rough treatment of mail in letter sorters etc, would force anthrax spores through the pores of the envelopes (which were taped to keep the anthrax inside) and infect postal workers. It is therefore possible that the perpetrator's goal was not necessarily to kill but to create public fear, in order to raise the profile of BW for some reason, and that he simply took advantage of Sept 11 to throw suspicion elsewhere.

MORE DETAILED SPECULATION

1. The perpetrator was a microbiologist who had, or once had, access to weaponized anthrax in a US government lab. Perhaps he had a vial or two in his basement as a keepsake. He does not necessarily live in or near Trenton! Trenton is a stop on the Amtrack line that runs along the East coast. If he is smart enough to handle anthrax he is smart enough not to mail it from his home town.

2. The letter anthrax was made and weaponized in a US government lab, either before Nixon terminated the US BW program in 1969, or later, for biodefense purposes.

--If the sample was made before 1969, then the Ames reference strain in the N. Arizona collection (which matches the letter sample) would have to be an early Ames substrain, probably 1928. Although Vollum was the main strain stockpiled by the US, at least during WWII, it is not unlikely that the search continued for better strains, and that the US BW program later switched to Ames, which is considerably more virulent than Vollum.

--If the letter sample was made more recently it could be a later Ames substrain, eg, 1980. But weaponization of dry anthrax after 1972, when the BWC was signed, could be construed as a violation of the BWC.

--The confusion about Ames substrains might have been cleared up if Iowa State had not destroyed the original isolates recently; but now it is probably only USAMRIID that knows the key. When questioned, they were evasive. It seems probable that retired USAMRIID Commanders and consulting anthrax experts have also been asked to stop talking. Most likely USAMRIID has had both the 1928 and 1980 Ames substrains for a long time, and is not willing to say which one was transferred to Porton in the '80s (ie, which one is the N. Arizona reference strain, which came from Porton and matches the letter anthrax).

3. Clumping: All the letters may have contained the same material. The clumping of the anthrax in the two letters mailed on Sept 18 (to NBC and the NY Post) might have resulted from the letters getting wet in the course of mail processing or delivery, or the perpetrator might have deliberately caused it to clump. In addition, some filler might have been added to those two letters. Analysis has probably already answered these questions and more.

4. The motive of the perpetrator may have been to attract attention to biological weapons as a threat, either to push the US government toward retaliatory action against some enemy or to attract funding and recognition to some agency/company/program/etc. with which he has a connection. The choice of media and the Senate leader as targets fits these motives.

--The perpetrator may not even have intended to kill anyone. The postmark on the Daschle letter is difficult to read. It has been reported as Oct. 8 in one NY Times article and Oct 9 in another. On the FBI website it looks more like 3 or 5 Oct to some observers. It is possible that the perpetrator did not know of the first anthrax case (in Florida), which was first reported at about 4 pm on Oct. 4, when he mailed the last letter (to Daschle).

5. If the US government suspects or knows that the anthrax was an "inside" job, it would probably want to cover it up that politically embarrassing information for the time being and gradually suggest the truth, as seems to be happening.

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, PhD

Natural Sciences

121 posted on 11/18/2001 4:37:53 PM PST by DaRocksMom
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To: Alamo-Girl
bttt
122 posted on 11/18/2001 4:42:46 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: DaRocksMom

Today....
A Massachusetts Hazardous Material Worker cleans up a white powdery substance across the street from Boston University's Photonics Center on St. Mary's Street. According to the Brookline, Massachusetts, Fire Dept who responded to the call, the substance is currently being tested. ©AFP

123 posted on 11/18/2001 4:45:14 PM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Alamo-Girl
Sorry to bother you, but... LOL - Alamo-Girl, I thought of you today! I saw a copy of the NEW STATESMAN magazine, and the cover story was on BIOTERROR - which is written from a "don't panic" stance.

Anyway.... not on the cover, but open up to the cover story, and just guess what the name of the author is?

KENAN MALIK - I found an online version of his article at his website, kenanmalik.com

I wonder if Malik/Malak are common names like Smith/Olson.

124 posted on 11/18/2001 5:30:49 PM PST by meridia
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To: ConservativeLawyer
Hmmm ... I wonder if they checked fingerprints on the letter to the carrier that they presumed was the one who picked up the letters early on??? The way it cross-contaminated so easily perhaps that initial infection clue was false.
125 posted on 11/18/2001 8:54:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh; amom
Great catch!!!!! Thank you! And thank you for the heads up, amom!
126 posted on 11/18/2001 8:59:39 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: meridia
My, how curious! I don't know if the names are common - but certainly there are a lot of common names we see in different mixes when we view reports about people from the Middle East - Mohammed, Abdullah, etc.
127 posted on 11/18/2001 9:13:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

State says clerical error to blame for unaccounted anthrax
The Associated Press
Published: Friday, April 21, 2006
Updated: Friday, April 21, 2006

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - New Jersey health officials on Friday said they cannot account for some anthrax once thought to be stored at a government laboratory, but said mistakes during previous inventories of the deadly bacteria may be to blame.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/newjersey/story/6147721p-6145628c.html


128 posted on 04/22/2006 8:09:38 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the cross-link!


129 posted on 04/22/2006 9:49:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1622444/posts
State Delays Report on Unaccounted Anthrax
Millennium Radio ^ | Thursday, April 27, 2006 | Joe Cutter


130 posted on 04/27/2006 6:35:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Alamo-Girl; KylaStarr; Cindy; Fedora; windchime; backhoe; Liz; nicmarlo; Viking2002; piasa; ...

>>>The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Malik’s help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax.

Dr. Malik has been in the U.S. since the 70's or so and is long established here. He is probably not a party to the terrorists. However, as head of the Islamic Center of Central NJ and being from Pakistan and having made it as a doctor here ... we wonder if a newcomer to the country living in that area, attending that mosque and wanting to become a doctor ... may have asked him for a job referral or such. <<<<<

Is the same Dr. Malik from here:

http://www.opednews.com/duncan_090504_njterrorism2.htm
New Jersey and Terrorism…Perfect Together

>>>Operation Diamondback which culminated with the arrests of two of the Jersey City men in June of 2001.

Diaa Moshen was sentenced to 30 months in prison and Mohamed Malik was freed and had his case sealed and purged of all references to Pakistan . Both men are now free and continue to walk the streets of New Jersey.<<<


131 posted on 01/30/2007 8:49:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Jeepers. Thanks for the ping!


132 posted on 01/30/2007 9:12:12 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Calpernia; FARS; DAVEY CROCKETT; Founding Father; milford421; Velveeta; LucyT

Re: your post 131, interesting article, and by going to the author list, was able to find all 4 parts.

Could this have been the seller of the missile that took out Flight 800?

All these bad doctors, make me think about the muslim who was giving fake flu shots in the west and Las Vegas, about 4 years ago, he has been on my mind for several weeks.

Thanks for the alert and added info.


133 posted on 01/30/2007 11:42:44 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Pray for peace, but prepare for the worst disaster. Protect your loved ones.)
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To: Calpernia

Good find, Cal.


134 posted on 01/31/2007 7:18:07 AM PST by Velveeta (Bears!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

I just ran across this old post through a series of links.

What are the odds that one of the anthrax attackers worked for KNF Nueberger? They were in the right place and they had the right equipment. Access to a lab that can process anthrax is very difficult. Access to a factory that produces lab equipment that can process anthrax is not so difficult.

Access to the equipment inside the factory may be positively easy once you are inside.


135 posted on 05/09/2007 5:50:30 PM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: sig226

Hmmm ... interesting possibility, sig226!


136 posted on 05/09/2007 9:01:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Original thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/571792/posts
Freeper Research on the Anthrax Perp


137 posted on 09/01/2008 2:31:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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