Is This Gay Behavior Sick?

Too Good Reports ^ | November 21, 2001 | Henry Makow Ph.D.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Just about every reputable psychologist in the world disagrees with the assumption that homosexuality is a perversion.

Maybe YOU need to look at the facts. Up until the mid 1960's homosexuality WAS listed as a sickness, a perversion of a deviant mind. It was a "scientific book" by a known homosexual and pediphiliac that was pushed by the pro-homosexual crowd that browbeat the APA into removing it from the list of abnormal behavior.

My point is that just because the APA (which recently published a paper claiming that pediphelia was not harmful to children and was in fact, GOOD for them) says it is so, doesn't mean it is true.

Just because you call it a giraffe doesn't turn a horse into a giraffe.

[BikerNYC]

Something that's the opposite of fun is misery....

No it isn't. When someone isn't having fun, that doesn't mean they are miserable. It doesn't mean they are even sad. It means, more closely, that they are serious.

What does "sacred" mean to you? What do you mean when you use that word?

When I say something is "sacred," I mean that it is worthy of serious thought, reflection and contemplation; that it is something not to be "sniffed" at or dismissed easily. The sacred evokes a serious emotion within one; it is something that has deep meaning and value; something that one values for its own sake. The sacred evokes a powerful serious emotion and I just can't see where "fun" enters into it.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

I think the text of Leviticus 20:13 is sufficently clear and would be good form.
I'll have to check into getting this on my state's ballot.

[baxter999]

"By the way, what exactly does the Bible say about homosexuality? It calls it an abomination."

Such a classic and correct response that I thought it should be posted again. Thanks for your eloquent response.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

I think the text of Leviticus 20:13 is sufficently clear and would be good form.

I'm unfamiliar with the Bible. Could you sum this?

[BikerNYC]

Homosexuality very well may be nature's way of stopping defective genes from being passed on. Normalizing the perversion would be a grave mistake.

Wait. If it's nature's way of stopping defective genes from being passed on, that's a good thing, no? It might also be nature's way of keeping some people childless so the community is not overburdened with children. In either case, how is normalizing it a bad thing if nature is using it as a tool to "advance" the species?

[eaglewatch]

Methinks Mr. Jim should ban anything from the Too Good Reports, just as he did with the Spotlight. Way too much uninformed, biased crap spewing from that rag!

[Romulus]

That's a mighty private and arbitrary definition. If I wanted to be rude, I'd call it mush.

Most dictionaries will tell you the word's most often used in connection with the divine, and most especially with places, things, and acts set apart, reserved for the service, use, or worship of a god.

I happen to believe that human intercourse is sacred because it's reserved for the transmission of life, in the context of a marital union, an act of cooperation with God's creation (the fact that this sacred reservation is often violated doesn't vitiate it). And yes, it's frequently great fun.

[FormerLib]

In either case, how is normalizing it a bad thing if nature is using it as a tool to "advance" the species?

If the hypothesis is correct, normalizing it would expand the behavior, causing healthy specimens to be destroyed as well.

[FormerLib]

Way too much uninformed, biased crap spewing from that rag!

The fact that it's ticking off the pro-homo cheerleaders is an excellent argument for keeping it though! ;-)

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Oh here's a handy link to a book and chapter index of the King James Bible. Just find Leviticus and click on the number 20. The quote you are looking for is on line 13. Thus Leviticus 20:13. Don't be afraid to continue reading. Oh and if you have sound, if you click on the speaker symbol, God will talk directly to you. :-) *just kidding*

[EdReform]

BUMP!!

[BikerNYC]

Things "sacred" are too important to be limited by a concept of a deity. "Sacred" has great meaning to both theist and atheist.

...places, things, and acts set apart, reserved for the service, use, or worship of a god.

So, you would find a Taliban holy place used to worship god sacred? Let me guess that you wouldn't. Not because it is not a place to worship a god, since it is. But because it has no value for you, it evokes no emotion of serious contemplation.

The fact that something is set up to worship a god IN NO WAY makes it sacred to you, unless that particular place evokes in you a sense of value and seriousness which I described in my post.

And you think that intercourse is a way to worship god? That's what can make it sacred?

[BikerNYC]

If the hypothesis is correct, normalizing it would expand the behavior, causing healthy specimens to be destroyed as well.

Destroyed? Where did that come from? You said that it could be a way to prevent unhealthy genes from reproducing. Not destroyed...just not reproduced. And so what? Do you have a personal worry that this may happen to you? I don't think so. Do you seriously think that 90% of the population will suddenly be attracted to members of their own sex should this be "normalized?"

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Methinks Mr. Jim should ban anything from the Too Good Reports, just as he did with the Spotlight. Way too much uninformed, biased crap spewing from that rag!

Especially crap from Makow.

From an Amazon.com review of his book A Long Way to Go for a Date:

"The story comes unwound by the second half of the book. Makow, after convincing the reader of the legitimacy of his mission, comes off as particularly unlikable as he continuously bullies and manipulates his 18 year old fiancee/wife in petty arguments. He is chauvinistic to a fault. When she herself proves to be just as selfish and immature, one can hardly blame her. After all, she has the excuse of being a teenager. For all his advantage of wealth, age, and education, Makow is eventually subdued and humiliated by his child-bride.

This is unfortunate. It is a simple fact that thousands of Western men like myself have found true fulfillment in romance and marriage with Asian women through experiencing the beauty and synchronicity of cross-cultural romance. The author foolishly marries an immature teenager yet seems genuinely upset with her when she begins acting like one. Makow's book, though at times insightful, reveals him to be a poor specimen of Western male and a poor spokesperson for those of us who have found real love and fulfillment in a foreign land. "

[Clint N. Suhks]

I hope you don't mean to suggest that it is not deviant when a woman puts her mouth over the organ a man uses to urinate, simply because a woman happens to be the one doing it.

You know what, only you could glean that kind of foul analogy from my point, what part of “normal man/woman relationship” didn't you understand? Still frequenting the sodomy threads to justify your brother’s filthy perversion I see?

[FormerLib]

Do you seriously think that 90% of the population will suddenly be attracted to members of their own sex should this be "normalized?"

It seems unlikely that such a percentage could be indoctrinated into such a perverse mindset, but, then again, it also seems unlikely that you could get a nation to sit idly by while the government sent people to death camps.

Remove the moral constraints from such sexual deviations, teach pubescent males that such behavior is acceptable, and, yes, I believe you will see an increase in homosexual activity (and all of the social pathologies that come along with it). Don't bother asking if I think this could have happened to me as I was raised in a society that celebrated America's Judeo-Christian moral heritage and would have been largely immune from the perverse indoctrination programs that our children are currently subjected to.

This nation's Judeo-Christian moral foundations have served us well thus far. Only the foolish and the perverse would suggest abandoning them now.