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THE ENRON BUSH CONNECTION
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| NOTE---- 9 Feb. '01
| Uri Dowbenko
Posted on 12/16/2001 3:48:14 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
There's not a single thing in that article that supports even a whiff of corruption of Bush wrt Enron. Maybe I've missed something. Can you select a passage or two that shows anything close to a quid pro quo by Bush for the Enron donations?
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:31:27 PM PST
by
be-baw
To: Inspector Harry Callahan
"Bookmarked."
That'll be a Dead Bookmark tomorrow. A thread last night that only had a few excerpts of this info got deleted after about 100 replies.
Read a few of the moves toward profanity and name calling above and you'll see the same moves.
Wouldn't be Prudent to delete and ban the gross ones now, would it?
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:31:43 PM PST
by
rdavis84
To: rdavis84
I Didn't say he made them rich. The article might suggest that :-)Quite so. The article merely "suggests" that there must be some big scandal involving the Bushes and Enron. To buy this smear job, it helps to believe that free markets don't work and that price controls do. No thanks.
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:33:38 PM PST
by
WarrenC
To: rdavis84
Trying again, eh? My hat is off to you.
It still amazes me to see the folks who are aware enough to know how the world works within the areas they are able to reach, yet somehow believe that Platonic 'ideals' are how the demigods function...that someone could ascend to the pinnacle of national politics, and still be pure as the driven snow (just because he has an 'R' by his name, according to some).
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:35:10 PM PST
by
Le-Roy
To: be-baw
"Maybe I've missed something. Can you select a passage or two that shows anything close to a quid pro quo by Bush for the Enron donations?"
I don't know about the "qid pro quo".( poet and don't realize it!:-)
But that needs to be looked at for what's stated about Slick, too. Fair enough?
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:35:43 PM PST
by
rdavis84
To: WarrenC
I will speak for moi, I'm a Conservative and a big fan of some who post Meaningful articles of truth, and that's where my search engines start and I check it out to verify!
To: rdavis84
The only real problem I have with this editorial is the political viewpoint of the author. He seems to WANT federal intervention into a private business (like price controls). I stand firmly against federal intervention in any kind of private corporation. I approach the issue from a Randian viewpoint.
But no matter how one views federal intervention, we should still be connecting these sleazy political dots and second-guessing EVERYONE's political motivations.
That said, I still enjoyed the article. Investigative journalism was missing during the Clinton years. Glad to see it coming back.
To: rdavis84
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:44:30 PM PST
by
Dane
To: Defender2
knock off the profanity please.
To: Kath
In order to run a campaign they must accept donations. And when someone is willing to donate and you are running for president you accept the funds. Anything beyond that is nothing but lies and garbage. You have no proof just rumors.Sounds like Clinton's talking points.
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:50:15 PM PST
by
Osinski
To: rdavis84
Uri Dowbenko, the author of this article is a real crackerjack. There are not many that could be published in places Nexus Magazine.com, World of the Strange.com, Different Voices.com, Anomalous-Images.com, Free World Alliance.com, Secret Societies.net, etc, etc.
I'm not sure who is the bigger fraud, the author of the article or the individual who posted it.
To: rdavis84
excerpts from THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER 15, DECEMBER, 2001 (#3)
"We suspect that Enron's involvement with other companies in the derivative business will lead to some startling surprises. Calpine is the first candidate. It seems the power they sold to Enron in the third quarter of 2001 for $119.13 was averaging $84.00 across the sale spectrum. Calpine's sale of power to other customers averaged $75.48 per megawatt hour. Management has no answer for the discrepancy, which cost Enron 58% more than Calpine's other customers and caused a windfall increase to Calpine's profits of 56% in the third quarter of 2001. It could be this was a sweetheart deal for something that is not yet apparent. We certainly wouldn't buy Calpine's stock. It is currently $21.37 per share. The question is, is there a scandal here and will the stock trade lower? We think so. Parallel information has APS, Arizona Public Service, parent of Pinnacle West Capital, declaring it could lose up to $15 million as a result of the bankruptcy of Enron."
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:55:31 PM PST
by
Osinski
To: rdavis84
Thanks for the post.I was becoming bored with republicrat handouts from headquarters and the blind adoration threads.The entrance of sinkspurrious on every thread signals how hot this subject is at "spin central".Deviation from group-think may be hazardous to your posting privileges so let me wish you a Merry CHRISTmas before your possible banishment.
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posted on
12/16/2001 4:57:40 PM PST
by
Patrick
To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Investigative journalism was missing during the Clinton years. Glad to see it coming back.I understand there is a problem with "homelessness" in the country now that a Republican is back in the White House. I bet those "investigative journalists" get right on it.
To: isthisnickcool
Enron was pulling its stunts for years during the Clinton administration. G.W. hasn't even been in office for a full year yet. I don't see how he was gaining from Enron, rather it was the man before him who was cleaning up in the chicken coop.
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:05:17 PM PST
by
em2vn
To: rdavis84
So what is the Quid pro quo? (1). Bankruptcy (2).Congessional Investigation (3).future indictments and Jail.............. JeeWhiz, with friends like Bush, who needs enemies! Another fricken hit piece!
To: Patrick
"Deviation from group-think may be hazardous to your posting privileges so let me wish you a Merry CHRISTmas before your possible banishment."
Thank You, and the Same to you and yours. Good to see and assess the mix on FR periodically. In the category of Bandwagon Riders , Alpha Male, what my image of them is akin to Barney Fife, but with TWO Bullets! :-)
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:06:30 PM PST
by
rdavis84
To: Le-Roy
...the San Jose Mercury printed about how the CIA purposely fed dope to minorities... Last I knew, this had been verified and admitted.
Admitted by whom? Little green men writing contrail messages with black helicopters?
Last I heard, the story was revealed as pure crap, and that little flaky newspaper took a black eye.
To: Le-Roy
Well I came here to learn , but the last thing I saw was a bunch of profesionnal ethnic's on T.V. , surrounded with a bunch of Johnny Cochran types . The CIA admitted to running drug's to the minorities in California ? I admit I am a 'lil busy , but .. Seriously , The last I know of , it was the blame America 1st crowd looking for another handout .
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posted on
12/16/2001 5:11:06 PM PST
by
Ben Bolt
To: rdavis84
But since you bring it up, where DID those Billions go You obviously know nothing about the stock market. Also, I still fail to see the overall point. If Bush was so close to Enron, you would think they would have asked him for some kind of favor that would have prevented bankruptcy.
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