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MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "WHITEWATER" AND ENRON? I HAVE THE ANSWER
dfu | 1-10-02 | dfu

Posted on 01/10/2002 8:23:49 PM PST by doug from upland

The RATS are circling in the waters like sharks. They go to bed every night hoping upon hope that they can do something to destroy the Bush administration.

Do the RATS care about our war effort? Perhaps some of them do. I would say, however, that the great majority of the far leftist hardcore of the RAT party wants Bush to have trouble more than they want the U.S. to defeat terrorism. Hey, that's why we call them the RATS.

We hear the Clinton complicit press jumping all over the Enron case and comparing it to Whitewater. Some have already suggested it is much worse.

It is clear to any good Clintonologist why they think it is worse. They loved Clinton. They hate Bush. They were too lazy or too stupid, or both, to follow what happened in the myriad of scandals called Whitewater. And the Clinton DNA is still dripping down their chins. If they can make Bush look bad, they can make Clinton look better. There is that legacy thing, you know.

Will Enron be a problem for Bush? It will be an irritant as the RATS think it is payback time. They will attempt to smear this president with the same enthusiasm as they tried to protect and defend real Clinton criminal activity.

But the real difference should put some of you at ease. George W. Bush is basically a decent and honest man. Conversely, we learned very early that Bill Clinton was a lying, manipulating, evil, self-serving, piece of human debris.

The first instinct of Bush is to tell the truth. The first instinct of Clinton is to tell a lie.

Clinton, we know, would do anything to be president. In fact, he did. There was nothing out of bounds. Bush did not need the job. His life would be fine without out. Certainly it would be less stressful.

Might they find some wrongdoing? There is a chance, however, I doubt it. Unlike Clinton, Bush has surrounded himself with good people rather than compromised people. Clinton sick-o-fants stayed with him because they were as dishonest as their boss. It started at the top and ran right down the line.

It should give you comfort that a pretty honest and decent man with character is guiding our ship in these troubled waters. Those who did wrongdoing are not going to get a pass in this administration.


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To: doug from upland
It is really beyond me what the demonrats are so gleeful about...they hope to "prove" GW drove Enron into bankruptcy??? They hope to "prove" GW cooked the books at Enron??? They hope to "prove" GW certified the questionable audits of Enron??? They hope to "prove" GW bailed out Enron with public moneys??? Just what are they so giddy about...this is total nonsense.
21 posted on 01/10/2002 9:15:52 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: america-rules
Cramer said he was blasted three years ago for talking down Enron and he caught hell from his dem friends--he now says he was right and all this happened under the rats control of the white House !

I saw him as well and he was quite exercised, but rightly should have been. It comes down to sleazy business practices and lying by Enron and Andersen and Cramer said the way to stop this is to prosecute people just like insider trading was in the 80's.

22 posted on 01/10/2002 9:20:35 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
but can they link him to any of this?

No, but they can lie and claim they already have.

23 posted on 01/10/2002 9:20:56 PM PST by Timesink
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To: doug from upland
They will attempt to smear this president with the same enthusiasm as they tried to protect and defend real Clinton criminal activity.

Okay. I may just be really dense when it comes to matters of corporate bankrupcy. But, what can the president be smeared with ????

Enron inflated their stock rating for four (yes, four!) years. Enron executives may have engaged in criminal insider trading. Enron's accountants, Arthur Andersen, may have intentially destroyed evidence that conflicted with their claim that they made "honest accounting" mistakes.

Enron calls the Secretary of Commerce and the Secretary of the Treasury hinting at a bailout. The administration doesn't raise a finger in favor of their old "Texas buddies".

So, where's the smear come from? Campaign contributions--then smear everyone on the Hill. The President's friendship with the CEO? Well, then smear x42, too.

Sorry, but I still don't see the mud the democrats will sling at Bush.

24 posted on 01/10/2002 9:23:49 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: doug from upland
Do the Names Ron Brown,Tony Lake and Bill Clinton ring a bell???

ENRON link to Billy Jeff Clintoon

25 posted on 01/10/2002 9:24:55 PM PST by HP8753
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I said they would attempt it. They are dreaming.
26 posted on 01/10/2002 9:26:14 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
how does The President deflect this?

My guess is he won't really have to. Today and Tomorrow (Thursday and Friday) are the only two days this Enron story is even going to be big in the news cycle, because the big Justice Department probe was just launched. Since they're just starting, it's going to be many months until they figure anything out, and Justice isn't going to leak much. So that means there's not going to be anything left for the presstitutes to say until Ken Lay shows up in front of Congress ... and that's not going to happen for over a month. (And when it does, it's not going to produce any evidence damaging to the Bush Administration.)

My guess: Before Lay testifies, we will finally start Phase II of the war, or at least get our mitts on Omar or Osama. Either of those events will completely overwhelm the media for a good long time. The lapdog Dems will then of course cry "wag the dog", which will a) be Barbra Streisand, and b) be ignored by the media and everybody else. There's your deflection.

27 posted on 01/10/2002 9:28:01 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
They may from what I read on the Barr to be on CNN thread/
28 posted on 01/10/2002 9:28:06 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: Frances_Marion
"if they wanna play with Bush, they can "take their chances and throw the dice" as Jack Nicholson would say..."

They have to be cracked in their brain to try to "play" with Bush. He's already wiping the floor with them and they are just to stupid to notice.

29 posted on 01/10/2002 9:29:56 PM PST by Sueann
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To: doug from upland
We shall see. I would say that there is no linkage to Bush in his current job but I am wondering about Texas and the governorship. The Dems are tying to keep him saddled with investigations and bad press for the 2004 elections and fundraising for 2002.

If they get nothing but air it would not tarnish their sterling reputations. They have little to loose.

30 posted on 01/10/2002 9:32:05 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Okay. I may just be really dense when it comes to matters of corporate bankrupcy. But, what can the president be smeared with ????

No, you're not being dense. There's NOTHING THERE. It is the DemocRATS grasping at straws and praying. Actually, they're grasping at hallucinations of straws and praying. Part of it is just their general leftist tinfoil beliefs about Big Business and the GOP. it's all "a big conspiracy" to them anyway, so they're absolutely convinced that if they just put on enough pressure and raise enough hell, some sort of proof of illegal activity has just gotta rise up Real Soon Now. The other part is just sheer Bush-hate, a desire to hurt him any way they possibly can. And since this is the best they can come up with, they'll run a few polls over the weekend, probably see Bush's approval rating has fallen fron 85% to 81% or so, and then try to convince themselves of a Big Win.

31 posted on 01/10/2002 9:32:57 PM PST by Timesink
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To: doug from upland
I said they would attempt it. They are dreaming.

Thanks! I watched a little too much MSNBC tonight. I just needed to "hear" you say that.

32 posted on 01/10/2002 9:34:36 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Timesink
Thanks. I can live with an 81% approval rating!
33 posted on 01/10/2002 9:36:58 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: doug from upland
Also, Doug - this is just another one of their "projection" techniques in full force. You know - project upon your enemy what you are doing yourself! They already know (by way of Lanny Davis' confession), that x42's fingerprints are all over Enron. The dems have much more to lose - and I believe that's why they have chosen Enron (who happens to come from TEXAS), to be the means by which they hope to dump Bush.

However, I agree with you - our President surrounds himself with good people. He's a good man - and I expect any involvement on his part or any of the administration will be found out to be nothing more than just former energy people trying to assist Enron's people. Quite frankly, I don't even see any problem in that. And ... even if they donated to the Bush campaign - they donated to several other campaigns too.

34 posted on 01/10/2002 9:37:45 PM PST by Sueann
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To: wirestripper
As I said on the Barr thread I heard they were going to investigate him while he was Governor. What I saw on that link doesn't look good.
35 posted on 01/10/2002 9:41:19 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: doug from upland
With the expanding market of Fox News, hopefully it won't be as easy to fool the sheeple as it was during the CNNABCCBSNBCMSNBClinton Administration!
36 posted on 01/10/2002 9:51:33 PM PST by brat
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To: doug from upland
Freeeeeeep mail
37 posted on 01/10/2002 9:56:57 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: horsewhispersc
This Enron media tempest began not with Enron's imminent bankruptcy but with Daschle's tax raising debacle. This is an effort to change the subject. Sinse the Dems cant win on foreign or domestic policy, all they have left is smear and innuendo. They hope to mollify their base, tarnish the halo a little and hope something more substantive comes along.

If the media weren't solidly democratic they would focus on the fact that a huge energy bankruptcy occurs with minimal effect on markets(remember blaming oilman Bush for high energy prices). Compare that to the financial disaster done TO CONSUMERSeg the "people"when government bungles energy markets in California.

38 posted on 01/10/2002 10:05:09 PM PST by calebcar
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Bush has an 84% approval rating from CBS and 90% on the way he's conducting the war.

The poll came out Monday but nobody reported on it !

Here is the poll

39 posted on 01/10/2002 10:08:30 PM PST by america-rules
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To: doug from upland
They will attempt to smear this president with the same enthusiasm as they tried to protect and defend real Clinton criminal activity.

Wrongo Douglas! The Enron thing is dead, dead, dead! Simple reasoning is all you need to see it's true....Democrats are just as hip deep in these 'gators as the Bushies. I give the hearings until Feb 15th and then you'll never hear about this "scandal" again!

40 posted on 01/10/2002 10:15:32 PM PST by cartoonistx
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