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GAY PRO-LIFE LEADERS ARRESTED AT NATIONAL PRO-LIFE MARCH
www.PLAGAL.org ^ | Jan 22, 2002 | PLAGAL

Posted on 01/23/2002 6:22:00 AM PST by helmsman

Washington, D.C. January 22, 2002. Leaders of the Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians (PLAGAL) were arrested today at the 29th annual March for Life. The arrests were conducted by the United States Park Police by direct orders of Miss Nellie Gray the March for Life Leader and holder of the permit, according to the Park Police.

PLAGAL President Cecilia Brown and Vice-President Eric Jurek were at the March for Life for the sole purpose protesting the 1973 Supreme Court decision which legalized abortion-on-demand. They were simply carrying the PLAGAL Banner -- which states the organization's name and "Human Rights Start When Human Life Begins." Brown, Jurek, and the rest of the PLAGAL delegation were approached by the officers and ordered to remove the offending sign. Consistent with their deeply held pro-life convictions, they refused. Police back-up arrived at the scene. At that time, though not resisting arrest, Brown and Jurek were wrestled to the ground and dragged to an area away from the crowds were they were handcuffed and taken away.

"How can Miss Gray claim to stand for the dignity of all human life while at the same time denying gays and lesbians our dignity in openly defending the rights of all human beings to life?" asked PLAGAL Vice-President, Ms. B.A. Keener. She then went on to comment, "Most every group that attends the March for Life openly identifies itself with signs and banners -- be they Feminists, Democrats, Catholics, etc. It seems that PLAGAL has been targeted by the leadership of the March for Life simply because of their sexual orientation. PLAGAL and its leaders have a long and solid history in pro-life activism."

"Nellie Gray, in a meeting a few years ago, stated PLAGAL may participate in the March for Life so long as we do not identify ourselves as lesbians and gays," stated Moses Remedios, VP for Media Relations. "That's as offensive as telling an African American, 'you can ride on the bus, but just sit in the back.'"

Prior to the arrest Brown stated, "PLAGAL participates in the March because we believe in positive, life-affirming alternatives to the tragedy of abortion. To say that we have no place for open participation in the pro-life movement is not only counter-productive, but it simply wrong." She then went on to say, "We urge Miss Gray to set aside her personal biases, and "FREE THE MARCH" for Life, by allowing all peaceful, pro-life groups to stand in solidarity with women and the unborn."

We are appalled that Miss Gray is incapable of setting aside her personal sentiments against gays and lesbians, thus prohibiting, with the use of police force, our open participation in the pro-life movement," stated Ms. Keener who went on to say, "By this malevolent act and to her detriment, Miss Gray has moved the focus of the March for Life away from the protection of the unborn -- where it belongs -- to the participation of lesbians and gays."

All those wishing to express their disgust with the March for Life for this malicious and divisive act of exclusion are encouraged to contact the March for Life at info@marchforlife.org. For pictures and the latest information on this developing story please visit our website at http://www.plagal.org.


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To: helmsman
"The pro-life movement is hurt if it's image is one of exclusionand intolerance."

Sounds as if you've learned your liberal spin r-e-a-l good. I side with the pro-lifers they don't want their message muddied by those trying to cash in on whatever press and media attention the pro-life march can attrack. Knowing the pro-homo liberal media, they would focus on one of their favorite causes, that is to make sodomy respectable. I don't think any self identified group of perverts would be welcomed if they insisted on advertising. Tolerance is way over-rated. It's responsible for much of the social problems we are now facing. Flame away!

201 posted on 01/23/2002 12:03:22 PM PST by arepublicifyoucankeepit
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To: ArGee
(m)SASU works for me....it'll keep those liberals wonderin' what we're up to.

Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately for some, I'm going to have to leave. I'm going to a dinner tonight which will be attended by current and former EOD people. It should be a real blast.......er.....we should have a bang up time.......ummm.......I hope nobody blows up.......ahhhhhhh.......I mean it should be a great party.

God Bless,

EODGUY

202 posted on 01/23/2002 12:06:49 PM PST by EODGUY
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To: helmsman
Hosexuality is neither "positive or life-affirming". The sodomites and rug-munchers are a fifth column who's only purpose is to push their perversion in peoples faces and go out of their way to sow disention, then whine about the problem they caused.
If someone visits your home and you tell them you do not allow smoking in your home and they light up a smoke in your livingroom you have the right to eject that person from YOUR HOME, it is called "freedom of association".
Nellie Gray applied for and recieved the parade permit, SHE has the right to decide who may be involved and under what conditions. If the alleged pro-life perverts wanted to demonstrate AND headline their disgusting behavior they should have gotten their own parade permit.
203 posted on 01/23/2002 12:30:26 PM PST by Unbeliever
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To: helmsman
If you believed that the only healthy meat to eat were fish and walked down the street with a banner proclaiming your beliefs, would you welcome someone with a poster that said: "Fish Is Good Too!" -- National Beef-Eaters Association?

How about if you were sponsoring a parade promoting what you would consider to be the 'natural-ness' of homosexuality and someone showed up with a poster that stated: "HOMOSEX GOOD! -- National Man-Boy-Infant-Beastial Sex and Thinking-About-Corpses and Cannibalism-Next Society?

204 posted on 01/23/2002 1:17:35 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: helmsman
"Gay Pro-lifer" has the ring of an oxymoron.

The Homosexual Lifestyle, or "The Great Gay Lie" is not a promotion of life, but a culture of death.

The militant homosexual lobby would like us all to believe that homosexuality is perfectly normal :"Nothing to see here folks, move along!"

This just isn't the case. I'm simply astounded that people have been frightened into silence over the propagation of mass pervesion.

Homosexuality is a severe and disturbing disorder which is typically derived from some psychological trauma so devastating that the individual can longer recognize their own sex despite the obvious evidence that God has placed in front of them.

There has never been any viable evidence to prove contrary to this fact.

The shocking nature of homosexuality is not only offensive to the savy, stable psyche, it is an affront to nature itself.

The decent into to homosexual lifestyle, the "Great Gay Lie" is a path sown with deception, depression, disease and paved with the misery of friends, family and loved ones. The corruption promoted by the militant homosexual lobby feeds this cycle of despair with the lives of our innocent loved ones.

Those afflicted with this life-destroying malady need to seek both psychological and if necessary medical help immediately.

The message simply isn't consistant with that of the the pro-life movement. It's like making a peace agreement with Yassar Arafat.

205 posted on 01/23/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: orcmasher
I understand, but my concern is that when you join with a group that has a major opposing view in some arenas, you are taking a chance of legitamizing their cause and that can come back to bite you later.

I fail to see the logic in saving the child only to have them preyed upon by a group that gained legitimacy by joining with a single rightious cause.

It's not a promising scenario, particularly when so many of these people prey upon children.

In Broward and Dade County, homosexual activists are seeking to gain entrance into public schools and indoctrinate children during sex education classes by teaching the "Glisen Manual". If you haven't heard of the "Gay and Lesbian Alliance Manual" on sexual practice, it is basically a XXX homosexual practice guide. They'd like to have people who are approved by Glisen instruct children in homosexual practices, introducing it as a normal aspect of sexual relations, which it is not.

By joining with such people, you cause far more harm than good. No one should be decieved by this article. The ultimate objective is to legitimize homosexual behavior.

With the help of Steve Kane, we are winning this battle in Broward and Dade. Don't help further the cause of the enemy by allying with those who would prey upon your children because you'll get three or four more people to show up at an abortion clinic protest.

207 posted on 01/23/2002 2:06:49 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: cake_crumb
PLAGAL sees their mission as speaking to the homosexual community, the female part of which has been instrumental in legalizing and promoting abortion. I was told that in general homosexual men did not give a darn about abortion until they made a bargain with the lesbians: we'll support abortion rights and you support AIDS lobbying effort.

That is why they publicly identify themselves as homosexuals, to send a message to their own, who might otherwise be reflexively pro-abortion, without for a moment considering that the religious right just might be right on this one. Considering the influence of the homosexual culture in this country, if they can be shifted on this, I'll take it.

Mrs VS

209 posted on 01/23/2002 2:23:02 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: helmsman
I trust that you will understand that my reply was to the ethics of the situation -- not the morals.
210 posted on 01/23/2002 2:42:09 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: orcmasher
When ANYTHING is more important then saving a child you are no better then an abortionist.

Hey, I don't want to see it happen either. I will pray for your success.

We each pick our own battles. I admire your devotion to yours. I believe that through your commitment that eventually you will be able to convince people of the truth of your cause.

My chosen battle lies along a different front of the war for the very soul of our nation.

In the end, I believe we're both fighting on the same side. I'm just confronting a different face of the enemy.

Again, I will pray for your success.

211 posted on 01/23/2002 3:19:00 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: ArGee
What if that same person, instead of kissing other people, just looked at them and thought about kissing them. Does that count as sexual behavior?

I think I already addressed that one. No, it does not.


What about holding hands? I'm not trying to split ridiculous hairs here, as it may seem I am doing. But, for instance, when I was dating the aforementioned virgin, we didn't hold hands until 2-3 dates. Didn't kiss until 4-5 dates. I don't believe that she had no sexuality when I met her, but she suddenly acquired it as a result of going out with me! My contention is that people have sexuality, regardless of whether or not it is expressed physically. A person can be heterosexual for no other reason than they have feelings for the opposite sex, expressed physically or not.

PS... never date a virgin! : )
212 posted on 01/23/2002 3:34:56 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: ArGee;Arthur McGowan;helmsman;EODGUY;Khepera;proud2bRC
"Should "Klansmen for Life" be permitted? How about "Rapists for Life?" Maybe "Islamic Suicide Bombers for Life?" "

Heck, no. And here's why: The most basic tenets of pro-life wisdom recognize equal rights regardless of sex, skin color, religion, physical soundness, or age; and defend rights that do not come at the expense of others, unborn children, for example but certainly not excluding any of the victims of the reprehensible KKK, rapists, Islamic terrorists, pedophiles, wife-beaters, murderers,(or liberal democrats.) The groups you compare to PLAGAL all violate those beliefs.

Now, the minute a gay male tries to seduce one of my nephews, he is a pedophile and deserves a very long sentence in a cramped, dingy, roach-infested hole without "climate-control", at the very least. These men are out there, I know it. But not all gay men are that way, and you know it. To presume so is as ignorant as stereotyping all pro-lifers as clinic bombers.

213 posted on 01/23/2002 4:02:36 PM PST by hillsborofox
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To: all
I'm familiar with what happened at this incident and it revolved around the homosexual militants trying to link the pro-life march with legitimizing the homosexual lifestyle. They have done this time and time again and I am glad to see that for once someone stood up to them. I have been to rallies where these kooks were present and all they are concerned with is trying to advance their bizarre homosexual agenda. They seem to only support the pro-life movement as an afterthought. I support everyone who's truly pro-life, but these creeps have a perverted agenda that just can't be tolerated. We need to draw the line somewhere and clearly the right thing was done.
214 posted on 01/23/2002 7:52:27 PM PST by Bill Jones for GOV
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To: Stone Mountain
Should my dear wife depart for home before I do, I will obviously not be looking for a young girl so I doubt I will seek out a virgin. But I will seek out someone chaste - that is, who reserves her sexuality for marriage.

My contention is that people have sexuality, regardless of whether or not it is expressed physically.

We're splitting hairs over definitions. My point is that people have lots of thoughts, some good and some bad. Unless you are mentally ill, you can train yourself to think in the way that you want to think. If you have sinful thoughts - lustful, envious, greedy, those need to be dealt with. But the punishment comes for giving into them, not for having them.

I once read a report about a society in some remote area where the men were fully homosexual until they turned 18, then they established monagomous heterosexual relationships for the rest of their lives. They were taught to think that way, and it worked for them.

And yes, thoughts have crossed my mind (I'm not going to detail which sins, but more than one) that I would be ashamed to act out. In order to train my mind, I learned to shut those down as quickly as possible. The Bible calls this "taking every thought captive" and it is a valuable tool.

Shalom.

215 posted on 01/24/2002 5:41:18 AM PST by ArGee
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To: hillsborofox
Heck, no.

So, you would limit the association of those whose morality disagrees with yours, but you would deny Nellie the same right?

Whether or not I agreed with her decision, it was her right to make it. If she doesn't want her march tainted with the sin of homosexuality, she is no less correct defending that than if she doesn't want it tainted with the sin of the Klan.

Shalom.

216 posted on 01/24/2002 5:44:48 AM PST by ArGee
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To: helmsman; Bill Jones for Gov; George W. Bush; Clint N Suhks; Kevin Curry
Personally, I believe the actions taken to defend the Pro-Life March from being undermined by being associated with the homosexual agenda was correct. Many pro-lifers march without the need to have a banner identifying them according to what should be their private lives.

The primary purpose of that banner was to aid the homosexual perversion in metastasizing into every aspect of our society. These people know they can use their perversion to drive more people away from conservative issues than they will ever attact. And that is their primary purpose in this. Never forget that!

217 posted on 01/24/2002 7:18:13 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: helmsman
According to Christian scripture, a perverted believer will see Heaven, while a morally upright non-believer will bathe in the fires of Hell.

Where does scripture say that sinners will enter Heaven?

218 posted on 01/24/2002 7:24:48 AM PST by FormerLib
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And you know this because........

And, unless things have changed, here in the USA, they do have the right to protest and push thier agenda.

ehhhhh wrong answer - try again with statement not based soley on ignorance - it's not becoming!

219 posted on 01/24/2002 7:25:01 AM PST by KeepUSfree
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To: ArGee
I once read a report about a society in some remote area where the men were fully homosexual until they turned 18, then they established monagomous heterosexual relationships for the rest of their lives. They were taught to think that way, and it worked for them.

I woud love to read more about that - do you have any other info or a link?
220 posted on 01/24/2002 7:45:20 AM PST by Stone Mountain
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