GAY PRO-LIFE LEADERS ARRESTED AT NATIONAL PRO-LIFE MARCH

www.PLAGAL.org ^ | Jan 22, 2002 | PLAGAL

[GraniteStateConservative]

What you're saying is that only people who live strictly by Christian teaching are allowed into the pro-life movement.

Actually the poster probably believes only people who live strictly by Christian teaching should be allowed to be in America. You're talking to a wall.

[VeritatisSplendor]

Well, unfortunately, some baies have died as a result of homosexual activity - artificial insemination of lesbians. Some lesbians do not want boys. I was once at a party where I was the only straight woman - and one woman there asked a pregnant woman if she would abort the child if it was a boy. Fortunately the answer was no, and the child was a boy, but the question was not considered offensive, and the expectation and the practice were not out of the normal within that community.

I have met and had lunch with some men from PLAGAL, found them to be likable with the exception of one gossipy old queen who had it in for the Catholic church. They said they were generally much better received by pro-lifers than by the homosexual community. And no, I don't approve of homosexuality, but we have all sinned and having them arrested for participating in a pro-life rally (which is no sin) will neither bring them from sin nor bring anyone else to recognize the evil of abortion.

Mrs VS

[VeritatisSplendor]

baies = babies

typing behind some window that won't close

[Marysecretary]

I agree. We have to come to agreement on some issues and this seems to be one of them. Perhaps there's more to the story but it seems a little overboard to me. As long as they were behaving and not pushing their own cause, why all this commotion? Gays are humans, too, and if we can come to an agreement on this issue, then so be it!

[Marysecretary]

Good answer!

[justshutupandtakeit]

What Bible verse are you refering to that says the perverted will get to heaven without repentence?

[He Rides A White Horse]

Whatever..........call it what you want, but as far as I'm concerned, this is what it appears to be.

A group of people who are always motivated by their own desires being consistent yet again in that respect. Again, nothing but a selfish PR move conceived and executed for the sole purpose of deflecting attention to themselves, as always.

Have fun trying to BS the others.

[Arthur McGowan]

Nellie Gray has pro-life people arrested, but she accepted a telephone call from a man who says that it is part of his job to cooperate in the killing of babies. George W. Bush and his Attorney General are committed to enforcing "laws" that cause the arrest and prosecution of people who attempt to prevent an abortionist from killing a baby. Such arrests and prosecutions have taken place under Bush and Ashcroft, which means that Bush and Ashcroft have made themselves actual accomplices in the killing of actual babies, while professing to be "opposed" to the killing.

[Fee]

The sinner needs our presense more than the believer. If pro-life gay want to join the ProLife movement, it provides and opportunity for Christians to spread the word. If done properly and compassionately, who knows what wonders will happen. Remember, Christ socialized with the undesireables of his time (prostitutes, tax collectors and etc) because he knew they needed his teachings alot more than the believers.

[ravingnutter]

Personally, I'm fascinated that such a subculture exists. Gay pro-lifers! Just goes to show you when you think you've seen it all, you haven't, especially in this country.

My take on this is that they want more children to be available for adoptions so the bar will be lowered for them.

[helmsman]

Thank you for reposting madprof98's excellent post. I was fairly certain when I created this thread that I was going to be standing alone against a hostile army (that's alright, I often do), but you folks have shown that there are at least some here who can appreciate the wrongness of what happened yesterday. And, hey, as madprof pointed out, we're on Father Frank's side in this one. I like our chances...

[JenB]

Was Ms. Gray the elderly lady with, um, purple hair? I was there for the first time yesterday and after about the five hundredth time she got up to talk I was getting sick of her. I mean, I'm sure she's a nice person who's been organizing this march and such, but, well, she's not the best public speaker, is she? And pulling a dumb stunt like this sure isn't going to help the cause!

[ArGee]

Yes, but many of us have come to our pro-life convictions based not on religious teaching, but on rational examination.

That's what you think, but your rational viewpoint has been prejudiced by being raised in a culture with a primarily Christian morality. If you had been raised in Sparta, you would not think that a prolife stand was rational at all.

Most people who believe in atheistic morality simply have no idea how much their culture has influenced their thought patterns.

Shalom.

[Artist]

"Nobody is suggesting that Nellie Gray should have adopted the beliefs or lifestyle of the members of PLAGAL, only that she should have allowed them to protest alongside other pro-lifers in unity."

I couldn't agree more.

BUMP

[Poohbah]

Arresting homosexuals is good for society and the nation. It should be done whenever these people flaunt their lifestyles in public. Its for the children.

Actually, arresting anyone who disagrees with ME is good for society and the nation. It should be done whenever those people flaunt their deviant thought processes in public. It's for the children.

[ArGee]

First arrest the fundies. They're even more annoying.

Oh, really? People who spread their values via persuasion are more annoying than people who spread their values via coercion?

I respectfully disagree.

Shalom.

[Republic]

Good for Miss Gray. Really GOOD! I wouldn't want PLAYGAL, I mean, PLAGAL marching with me, either. So what if this group pretends it cares about the unborn. It hurts a wonderful cause like Miss Gray's to have an organization that wants to braodcast itself as perferring same sex sex to march alongside. I mean, WHO, containing even an OUNCE OF COMMON SENSE, really believe that bedroom sexual preferance has any business being broadcast ANYWHERE. Miss gray knows that the focus of many would be directed at the sign the homosexuals carried, everyone wondering why people who want to braodcast deviant homosexual proclivities were there. Let the homosexuals have their own marches, where they can parade their dildos and the other sick stuff we have all seen. These homosexuals simply want to latch on to a huge event to make it appear to the rest of America that others think they are upright, accepted and part of the mainstream. Sorry. WRONG!

[ArGee]

This idea is the only thing that distinguishes humans from lower beasts.

Hmmm, I would hate to see your definition of a human being.

Shalom.