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Petition for veto of Shays-Meehan / McCain - Feingold
P8riot

Posted on 02/22/2002 8:10:47 AM PST by P8riot

I have just initiated a petition for the president to veto Shays-Meehan / McCain - Feingold.

Go here to add your signature.


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To: WIMom
Well need like 10,000 signatures.
221 posted on 02/23/2002 7:07:12 AM PST by weikel
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To: WIMom
Already signed!
Thanks for the ping,

CD

222 posted on 02/23/2002 7:10:09 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Slip18
Thanks! We need to keep this alive!
223 posted on 02/23/2002 7:11:36 AM PST by WIMom
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To: weikel
Are you saying, "Vote early, vote often?" LOL!
224 posted on 02/23/2002 7:12:11 AM PST by WIMom
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To: Constitution Day
Thanks!
225 posted on 02/23/2002 7:12:36 AM PST by WIMom
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To: WIMom
I hope I don't get flamed too bad.

(Just kiddin'! - CD)


226 posted on 02/23/2002 7:15:33 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: diotima

Enemies of the State
Voting YES on CFR:

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227 posted on 02/23/2002 7:16:06 AM PST by WIMom
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To: P8riot, WIMom
Done!!!!

To WIMom: Thanks for the heads up!!!

229 posted on 02/23/2002 7:17:36 AM PST by MsLady
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To: Constitution Day
HAHAHAHA! That's great!
230 posted on 02/23/2002 7:18:01 AM PST by WIMom
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To: WIMom
I signed earlier, thanks for the ping though.
231 posted on 02/23/2002 7:18:43 AM PST by pubmom
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To: newblood;All;ReaganGirl;diotima
Thanks!

HELP STOP CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM IN ITS TRACKS! Join the First Amendment Action Network NOW!

232 posted on 02/23/2002 7:20:43 AM PST by WIMom
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To: MsLady
You're welcome, pass the petition along to all your friends!
233 posted on 02/23/2002 7:21:28 AM PST by WIMom
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To: pubmom
Thanks for bumping by!
234 posted on 02/23/2002 7:21:48 AM PST by WIMom
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To: MsLady

235 posted on 02/23/2002 7:25:47 AM PST by WIMom
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To: ForGod'sSake
A little dated, but some TALKING POINTS from The Heritage Foundation; the PDF is a neat handout:

Top Ten Myths About
Campaign Finance Reform
by Todd Gaziano

The Heritage Foundation Legal Memorandum

Link to: | PDF (62k) |

No. 5

February 12, 2001 


Produced by the
The Center for Legal
and Judicial Studies

Published by
The Heritage Foundation
214 Massachusetts Ave., N.E.
Washington, D.C.
20002-4999
(202) 546-4400
http://www.heritage.org


Dispelling a number of stubborn myths about the current campaign finance proposals is critical now that the perennial debate over campaign finance reform has returned, with the House taking up H.R. 2356--the self-styled Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2001 ("Shays-Meehan"). The Senate already has approved a similar version of campaign finance controls on political speech, S. 27 ("McCain-Feingold"); and the President has indicated that he likely will sign whatever Congress passes. Thus, the House may be the final bulwark against a serious violation of our First Amendment rights.

Myth #1: "Shays-Meehan is constitutional." Any bill that attempts to "equalize" citizens' political speech through criminal and civil penalties for "excessive" or "unfair" speech violates the First Amendment, which provides in plain terms that "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech" (emphasis added). Many provisions of H.R. 2356 are unconstitutional. Although the constitutional debate is complicated by the convoluted nature of past laws and current proposals, the proof of the pudding is that approximately 30 of 32 similar "reform" statutes were struck down in the federal courts. (For a list of key cases, see the James Madison Center for Free Speech February 2001 report on S. 27 at www.jamesmadisoncenter.org.)

Myth #2: "Congress need not consider the `complicated' constitutional issues." According to this myth, Congress can pass a questionable (or blatantly unconstitutional) bill and let the courts sort things out. But every Member of Congress takes an oath, required by Article VI of the Constitution, to uphold the Constitution. This duty is non-delegable. Although the courts may have to rule on some aspects of a law after years of uncertainty and litigation, Congress has an independent duty not to criminalize speech that it knows, or should know, to be constitutionally protected.

Myth #3: "Only right-wingers and partisan Republicans oppose Shays-Meehan." Although this is hardly an argument on the merits of the bill, it is not true. Besides Representative Albert Wynn (D-MD) and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus, the AFL-CIO opposes key provisions of the bill. So does a large coalition of other liberal groups, including the Alliance for Justice and the American Civil Liberties Union. According to the Washington director of the ACLU, the legislation "represents a double-barreled attack on political freedom in America."

Myth #4: "Congress should decrease the amount of campaign spending." If the First Amendment means anything, it means that Congress cannot try to limit the amount of campaign speech or spending. The Supreme Court has made clear that this is a prohibited purpose, and the intent of many reformers to achieve this end renders their legislation unconstitutional. It is a fundamental tenet of the First Amendment that government has no business trying to limit the amount or type of political discourse.

Myth #5: "Shays-Meehan would decrease the amount of campaign spending." Even if it were acceptable to try, almost every reform proposal regulating political speech would increase the amount of campaign spending. As long as any First Amendment protections remain, enacting convoluted campaign regulations (constitutional or not) is like trying to dam a stream with a pile of sticks. Campaign spending eventually will flow through the dam, over the dam, or find another path. But because such indirect spending is often less effective than direct contributions to candidates, the amount of money chasing the same end will increase. All past reform efforts prove this basic law of economics and politics--unless government's size and scope are significantly reduced.

Myth #6: "Shays-Meehan would equalize citizen participation." The only effective way for most citizens to be heard during an election campaign is to band together in interest groups such as unions, fraternal organizations, and community groups. H.R. 2356 would restrict the rights of poor or middle-class citizens to engage in campaign activity through such groups, but it leaves wealthy individuals and huge media corporations alone. Plutocrats and powerful media corporations should be free to speak, but it is wrong to increase their power artificially at the expense of less affluent citizens.

Myth #7: "Shays-Meehan would help challengers defeat incumbents." No bill would pass if it hurt incumbents, and H.R. 2356 substantially helps incumbents. The Canadian experience with reforms similar to those proposed in Shays-Meehan confirms this: Incumbents lost even fewer elections, and because of new spending caps, campaign ads became almost totally negative. According to one scholar, this caused "widespread disinterest and disgust at the issue-less, invective-driven campaign."

Myth #8: "Banning soft money will increase transparency and accountability." Attack ads produced by unknown or "sham" groups have grown as a result of past reform laws. They will surely mushroom if accountable and well-respected organizations are prohibited from contributing or using soft-money contributions. Unions, corporations, and political parties are important repeat players with strong interests in maintaining their long-term reputations. These groups often pull ads that are criticized as unfair. Under Shays-Meehan, unaccountable groups will fill the void and run attack ads in increasing numbers.

Myth #9: "Independent speech can be `redefined' as a candidate's speech." Shays-Meehan attempts to redefine normal contacts between independent interest groups and a candidate as collusive so that any later campaign activity by the independent group is treated as an in-kind gift to the candidate. Try as it might, Congress cannot change by statute what the Supreme Court has said is a constitutional distinction. Unless the campaign activity itself truly is coordinated with the candidate, independent groups may spend as much as they want on election activity. Even if the redefinition were constitutional, however, the result would be that affiliates would form to engage in election activity that is less transparent and accountable than under current law.

Myth #10: "Nothing will please the constitutional purists." Standing up for the Constitution is noble in and of itself. However, constitutional purists have offered a practical and effective reform proposal: lifting contribution limits to candidates but requiring rapid disclosure of significant contributions. If voters are outraged by large contributions and always equate them with corruption, as "reformers" claim, then rapid disclosure is not only self-enforcing, but also far more effective than a thousand other regulations that simply channel political contributions elsewhere.

--Todd Gaziano is Director of the Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at The Heritage Foundation.


236 posted on 02/23/2002 7:28:12 AM PST by WIMom
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To: P8riot
I'm number 886. Come on, FReepers, get moving.

One of the most amazing things I have seen in the past month is the willingness of our Congress to accept the Supreme Court as a higher authority in the land than they are. Senator Spectre, (RINO-PA) called them the highest authority in the land. Now Congress wants to approve a bill they know is bad so they can count on SCOTUS to kill it. That's like mommy telling a kid to ask daddy when she knows the idea is bad so daddy will be the bad guy.

Congress, POTUS, and SCOTUS are co-equal. They have different roles and responsibilities, but neither is above the other and each is checked and balanced by the other two. When Congress passes a bill that they know SCOTUS will strike down, they cede their legitimate Constitutional authority to SCOTUS. Likewise, if POTUS signs it knowing SCOTUS will strike it down, he cedes his legitimate Constitutional authority to SCOTUS. If they keep this up, our nation will become an oligarchy (which it nearly is now).

The larger Constitutional issue than even this assault on our freedom of speech is this assult on the separation of powers. Conservatives have got to start demanding that the people they elect do their duty and maintain the delicate balance of powers that our founders intended. Otherwise, this great governmental experiment will fail.

Shalom.

237 posted on 02/23/2002 7:32:51 AM PST by ArGee
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238 posted on 02/23/2002 7:33:14 AM PST by WIMom
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To: ArGee
"Conservatives have got to start
demanding that the people they
elect do their duty and maintain
the delicate balance of powers
that our founders intended."


239 posted on 02/23/2002 7:39:56 AM PST by WIMom
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To: WIMom
Proudly signed and proudly bumped. Thanks for the heads-up.
240 posted on 02/23/2002 7:44:44 AM PST by strela
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