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CALL 1-(310)576-7503 AND TELL CALIF.GOV. CANDIDATE BILL SIMON.......
am790KABC | 8/28/02 | voa-davidk

Posted on 08/28/2002 11:12:47 PM PDT by voa-davidk

At the begining of the week , Sean Hannity was in San Fransisco on his 'Hannitization ' tour and had candidate for Calif. Governor Bill Simon on as a guest .

When Sean hannity asked Simon if he would make a campaign issue of Caalif. Gray Davis wanting to give drivers licenses to illegal aliens , Simon in essence 'Draft Dodged ' the issue , and in so many words told Sean Hannity that he would not make it a campaign issue against Davis .

Simon then gave out his phone number and asked that anyone who wants to call him can . His phone number is 1(310)576-7503

Also , make the suggestion that he go to the FUERZA NATIONALISTA AZTECA website : members.tripod.com/~mitlam/funaaz.html to find out what his opposition is really up to .


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To: TBP
My position doesn't elect liberals. Simon is a conservative, and Ray Haynes has set the record straight on this issue. Those who stab Simon in the back ARE, by their actions, re-electing Gray Davis.

Those who abandon Simon in this case are going to get the same results that John Warner and Donnie DiFrancesco worked for and obtained. And I will be just as unforgiving to those who sabotage Bill Simon as I am to the people who sabotaged Ollie North's 1994 Senate run (Warner) and Bret Schundler's 2001 gubernatorial run (DiFrancesco).
81 posted on 08/30/2002 5:52:24 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: voa-davidk; Coop
Then I suggest you do not act in a manner that is objectively pro-Left.

See Post 81. As a conservative, who was outraged by the back-stabbing of Ollie North and Bret Schundler in their campaigns by moderates, I am not going to spare conservatives from the same standards of conduct that I have STRONGLY condemned RINOs for not following (stabbing conservative candidates in the back).

I've condemned John Warner and Donnie DiFrancesco in the past for back-stabbing, and I expect any who were angry about the back-stabbing done to North and Schundler to not do any such thing.
82 posted on 08/30/2002 6:08:36 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: voa-davidk
Sorry, you didn't talk to me at my office. You are mistaking me for someone else.

Are you a disruptor trying to cause confusion or was this an honest mistake?

83 posted on 08/30/2002 6:24:52 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: voa-davidk
I posted the article , and I am a Reagan Conservative Republican activist . This is not stuff for the primary. Simon is no diferent from Riordan : Republican in name only .

You are an idiot if you really believe that. Please just join the Davis campaign if you want to see him reelected so much. How pathetic.

84 posted on 08/30/2002 8:05:54 AM PDT by montag813
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To: voa-davidk
I posted the article , and I am a Reagan Conservative Republican activist

YOU are the RINO.

What do you think Ronald Reagan would DO if he still had his faculties? He would spend every ounce of energy he had to help get Bill Simon elected.

You make me sick.

85 posted on 08/30/2002 8:09:31 AM PDT by montag813
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To: All
>Don't blame anything to do with Bill Simon on Carl Rove. >FreeRepublic and purist conservatives gave him the primary >and are totally responsible for having this man as our >candidate for governor.
86 posted on 08/30/2002 8:10:28 AM PDT by jern
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I see you are taking some flak from the exact crowd I mentioned in my post. Pragmatism before principles. Like I stated the "Vote GOP because ... well ... afterall we are not Democrats" catch all. And actually on election day, when I am in the both I find myself doing just that, but I darned sure do so as a "non-political party registered" citizen these days.

American politics has really come down to pleasing the mushy middle. The days of being able to just know what principles a candidate embraced because of his party affiliation are long gone. In fact, in the main, pricipled leadership, is long gone.

We do get, however, what we deserve. That is the all encompassing "we". Nothing personal, eh?

87 posted on 08/30/2002 4:09:33 PM PDT by ImpBill
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To: goldstategop
I don't live in California so I am not really up to speed on what is going on there other than the articles I read here and news on Fox. Let me assure you that, however, it doesn't appear that you are alone in the dilemma. I think it is a practice that is taking on new proportions all over the country. That age old political ploy of being "all things to all people".

Bare with me. With the current political makeup of the nation - 1/2 on the right and 1/2 on the left in voting patterns - political candidates have a real dilemma and have found the best bet is to play to the middle. A little conservative rhetoric and a little liberal rhetoric. The group most sought after in the voting booth these days seems to be those that are comfortable with finding political leadership that will allow them to continue to be absolutely NOT responsible for anything they do or decisions they make in life.

The political party bases these days are pretty much void of ideologues and replete with pragmatists. Prior to election day the message is "we have to get elected and then we can implement our philosophical bent in legislation". Then when they are elected and they do little if anything to implement what their voters thought they would it is the "we have to govern from the middle excuse". Lost in all of this, of course, is principled LEADERSHIP. And it is almost bereft in both major political parties.

Triangulation is the order of the day and most voters are just fine with it, it seems. I have seen posters on this forum even suggest that died in the wool Constitutional Conservatives are more or less an albatross around the necks of the Republican Party these days. Amazing how far we have devolved.

Good luck on election day. Remember if you elect Bill Simon he isn't really a Democrat ... after all. The hearts of all Republicans will be thumping with joy when their new Republican Gov. declares a "Gay Pride Day" and marches in their parade, eh?

88 posted on 08/30/2002 4:28:14 PM PDT by ImpBill
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To: montag813
Boo hoo .
89 posted on 08/30/2002 7:35:36 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: montag813
Just keep feeling sick .(LOL)
90 posted on 08/30/2002 7:36:34 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: montag813
Just keep feeling sick .(LOL)
91 posted on 08/30/2002 7:36:58 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: oc-flyfish
I did mistake you for the campaign aid at Simon's campaign office in Santa Monica. I called her Yesterday and she said she would send me things like what you posted . She spoke exactly of what you posted : The survey done by Simon for the 'Log Cabin ' homosexual club.

In fact I mentioned what I posted here _- Simon's number he gave to Sean Hannity on his show recently .She asked me for the Freerepublic web adress .I told her how to become a member of Freerepublic , and she said she would contact me .

I had told her of www.savecalifornia.com , the article that was posted to me here in this thread by someone ,showing that Simon has announcedbsupport for homosexual rights to the Republican homosexual group the ' Log Cabin ' club.

P.S.- Why all the false accusations and assumptions( Your question ," Are you a disrupter trying to cause confusion , or was this an honest mistake ? " ) around this site when someone tells the truth about our supposed ' conservative Republicans ' in name only ?

It was an honest mistake and no ,I am not a disrupter . I am an honest Conservative Reagan Republican in the infancy stage of starting a Conservative , honest , forward looking , forward moving Reaganisque people's PAC , with the intent , with the truth ,help educate the public ( Ronald Reagn said at a rally I helped out at in 1992 : " Never before have the differences between the two parties ever been so clear ." I would ammend that to also apply to ' between Conservatives and moderate Republicans '. ) help clear out moderates, and put in people who will stand for the ideas and institutions that have made our country great for so long .

This will mean that a lot of people may feel like their toes are being stepped on ( Democrats and moderate Republicans ; sychophantic ,corrupt , lying , status -power - self-important people plaguing the Republican party ) , but hey , you cannot please all Republicans all of the time .

'Half my brain tied behind my back , just to make it fair ' .Would you like to hear my impression of a dolphin ? ( One of my favorite animals ? *** Voice Of Americans *** Committees Of Correspondence , VOA /COC /PAC , P.O. Box 5053 , Anaheim Calif. 92814

92 posted on 08/30/2002 8:03:54 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: hchutch
No ,thanks , I don't and never will accept your brand of politics , which is ' Politics -over - principle ', and it is why Republicans keep losing more and more every year .What those who think like you are REALLY saying is that Republicans - Conservatives should think and act more like Radical Democrats , or Democrats period : ' Soften our way ' as do the so called 'NEW MAJORITY REPUBLICANS ' in my County , Orange County Calif.say .They want abortion , and recognized homosexual ' rights', etc..They are not true Republicans , and they dishonor and defile the name .They are cowardly , deviant( they are not a 'NEW MAJORITY as they call themselves ). What you call back stabbing is simply standing on integrity .

Congressman Jim Rogan or another who spoke in Orange County Ca. in 2000' gave a speech titled 'Principle -over -Politics '. You will never change my thinking and observations , and I may not change yours .'NO -GUT's , NO - Glory ' .

" For you Oh' Lord will bless the righteous ,with favor you will surround him as with a shield ." - Psalms , voa-davidk ,"....for God is love ." 1jhn 4:8 , Church Of Christ

93 posted on 08/30/2002 8:17:12 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: voa-davidk
Just keep feeling sick .(LOL)

Laugh it up RINO. Just keep electing Socialists.

94 posted on 08/30/2002 9:03:38 PM PDT by montag813
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To: voa-davidk
I'm not the one who lacks the courage. I'm choosing to fight the battles as they come, and I'm making hard calls. I know full well that I cannot win on all of my principles in this, or any election. But I'm goign to get as many of them as I possibly can in this battle, and I will keep fighting.

You have run both from the battle (politics) and the principles. What you call integrity, I call cowardice. I call it betrayal. I call it backstabbing. What you call "politics over principle" is getting my butt out there, and doing the best I can.

You are leaving fellow conservatives to fight without you. I'm not the one who lacks the guts, and I do not seek glory. I just want a better country for my new nephew (he's almost two months old).

No, Republicans don't lose because they fail to stand up for principle. The problem they have is two-fold: They cannot sell the agenda, and they have to deal with people who are too afraid to take risks or accept that they will not get perfection at once.

No, go off to your third party - but I will fight any effort of yours to encourage others to follow your siren song of self-destruction, because YOU, not I, will destroy ALL of the principles I stand for.
95 posted on 08/30/2002 9:10:19 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
I am sorry that you are so angry and upset . Reason , truth , integrity, and principle escape the irrationaly angry mind .

Calm down , have a cup of tea ( or coffee ), and take up drawing , oil painting , or ceramics as I have . The clouds will open up , and accent the sky . Take in the supernatural renewal of your mind . If you do , you will find with absolute certainty that you , through him , will be able to do much more than you would able to do on your own .

" Be transformed by the renewing of your mind . " - Paul the Apostle.

" Let not your heart be troubled . You believe in God , believe also in me ..." - Jesus Christ , in the Gospel of John the Apostle .

" Be anxious for nothing , but in everything by prayer and supplication let your requests be made known unto Godd , aand the peace taht passes all understanding shall guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus . The things you have heard and learned in me do , and the God of peace will be with you ." - Paul the Apostle , In the book of Philipians . Settle down , and let God bless you by following him , " Follow me ... " - Jesus Christ , " I have come that they may have life , and have it more abundantly ." <

You'll find that life is much , much more than politics .

" , ....but those who keep the law contend with the wicked ." - Proverbs 28 . voa-davidk , Church Of Christ

96 posted on 08/30/2002 10:40:31 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: hchutch
I am sorry that you are so angry and upset . Reason , truth , integrity, and principle escape the irrationally angry mind .

Calm down , have a cup of tea ( or coffee ), and take up drawing , oil painting , or ceramics as I have . The clouds will open up , and accent the sky . Take in the supernatural renewal of your mind . If you do , you will find with absolute certainty that you , through him , will be able to do much more than you would able to do on your own .

" Be transformed by the renewing of your mind . " - Paul the Apostle.

" Let not your heart be troubled . You believe in God , believe also in me ..." - Jesus Christ , in the Gospel of John the Apostle .

" Be anxious for nothing , but in everything by prayer and supplication let your requests be made known unto Godd , aand the peace taht passes all understanding shall guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus . The things you have heard and learned in me do , and the God of peace will be with you ." - Paul the Apostle , In the book of Philipians . Settle down , and let God bless you by following him , " Follow me ... " - Jesus Christ , " I have come that they may have life , and have it more abundantly ." <

You'll find that life is much , much more than politics .

" , ....but those who keep the law contend with the wicked ." - Proverbs 28 . voa-davidk , Church Of Christ

97 posted on 08/30/2002 10:41:49 PM PDT by voa-davidk
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To: patriciaruth
I have no idea whether Bill Simon is a crook (like Davis says) or a Gay Pride supporter or supports granting driver's licenses to illegal aliens, but I think that it is MIGHTY STRANGE that these kind of articles are now showing up on FreeRepublic.

I don't find it strange at all.

Are these articles meant to sabotage the candidacy of Bill Simon?

Perish the thought! Heaven forfend such a thing!

However: DING DING DING! You broke-a da code, sweetie!

98 posted on 08/30/2002 10:43:07 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: voa-davidk
I am sorry

I heartily agree. You are VERY sorry.

Reason , truth , integrity, and principle escape the irrationally angry mind

Oh, that explains your trashing of Simon.

99 posted on 08/30/2002 10:44:33 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Rockitz
Campaign for California Families is going to get us all killed. If "Gay" Davis gets re-elected, we'll have four more years of this democrap madness. Simon signed the marriage protection pledge. Randy Thomasson is an embarrassment. He's more interested in his ego and his personal agenda than in saving California families from "Gay" Davis! Sending out news releases like this causes some deranged idiots to send him their hard-earned money. Stop this crap. Somebody save us . . . from Gray Davis. Please somebody save us . . . from Gray Davis. Go, Bill Simon!!!
100 posted on 08/30/2002 10:51:25 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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