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SurveyUSA Poll Shows Growing Gap Between Davis and Simon
KXTV.com ^ | 10/14/02 | News10/SurveyUSA

Posted on 10/14/2002 6:07:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Poll Shows Growing Gap Between Davis and Simon
Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani's visit to California brought some energy to Bill Simon's campaign, but last week's photo flap appears to have hurt Simon in the polls.

An exclusive News10/SurveyUSA poll released today shows the gap widening between Simon and Davis. Davis has dropped eight points in the past week.

The new poll shows Simon at 33 percent with Davis at 48 percent. Green Party candidate Peter Camejo is holding steady at nine percent.

Just a week ago, the gap between Simon and Davis had closed to just seven points. The latest poll results reverse a multi-week trend of falling popularity for Davis and rising numbers for Simon.

Davis leads the gubernatorial race with Central Valley and Foothill voters for the first time since the News10/Survey USA polls began in July. The survey showed Davis edging ahead of Simon by a margin of 43 to 41 percent.

Simon fell precipitously with female voters, hitting his lowest popularity of the campaign. The latest poll showed 49 percent of women preferring Davis, while 31 percent said they intended to vote for Simon.

Among male voters, the gap between Davis and Simon that had closed to just two points last week widened to 10 points, with Davis at 46 percent and Simon at 36.

The poll has a 4.2 percent percent margin of error.

For full results of the latest News10/Survey USA poll, click on the link below.

Nuews10/SurveyUSA Gubernatorial Poll

Story last updated Monday, October 14, 2002 - 5:16 PM


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; davis; poll; simon; surveyusa
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GO SIMON

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Tom McClintock for CA State Controller


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Dick Ackerman for CA Attorney General


1 posted on 10/14/2002 6:07:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping

OK .. I think we got the high seas behind us now .. Now we can campaign and kick some Davi$ butt the next 2 and 1/2 weeks. It will be close ...BUT IT CAN BE DONE!!!
2 posted on 10/14/2002 6:10:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Did Davis sign the bill to allow vote registration on Election Day? That is a big concern of mine.
3 posted on 10/14/2002 6:14:57 PM PDT by IVote2
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To: NormsRevenge
Norm, 22 days and counting. DUMP DAVIS!
4 posted on 10/14/2002 6:19:13 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: NormsRevenge
ouch, what a poll ... fair warning: This is a REGISTERED VOTERS poll, and was asked to FORCE A CHOICE.

Biased to favor Davis. Still, sad that Simon couldnt do better here.

Key question: Why has Simon LOST GROUND since July 30? and why has he lost ground among republicans?
5 posted on 10/14/2002 6:25:38 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: IVote2
It is proposition 52,aka "massive voter fraud"
6 posted on 10/14/2002 6:26:54 PM PDT by Tadhg
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To: kellynla
I can't understand why Davis isn't behind 30 points. Are they all crazy in California? Davis has signed bills to cost taxpayers and retired people all their money. I guess everyone in California has lost all reason to common sense. What can Simon do at this late date?
7 posted on 10/14/2002 6:27:10 PM PDT by HoundsTooth_BP
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To: IVote2
Did Davis sign the bill to allow vote registration on Election Day? That is a big concern of mine.

No - it's Ballot Initiative #52 that we get to vote on - be sure to vote "NO".

8 posted on 10/14/2002 6:29:41 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
. I guess everyone in California has lost all reason to common sense.

No, not everyone. A lot of Freepers are Californians, including Jim and JohnRob. Unfortunately, we have the libs in San Francisco and LA, not to mention the thousands of new "immigrants" who are voting Dem because of the social services they're gonna get.

They're noisy and they demonstrate. The rest of us go to work and pay taxes.

9 posted on 10/14/2002 6:32:33 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
Relax...sit back and take a deep breath...we in CA can't understand why so many people who live out of state are so concerned and/or naysayers. Bottom line in CA. The undecideds/independent voters like almost all elections here are the deciding voters. And historically those voters do not decide until the night before or the day of the election. They look in their wallets, they look at the balance in their checking, savings and retirement accounts and they vote. WE VOTE PEOPLE OUT OF OFFICE HERE! And Dimwit Davis is T O A S T !
10 posted on 10/14/2002 6:32:35 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: WOSG
You lie. It was "likely voters", not registered voters.

-- VeritatisSplendor (spouse of heartwood)

11 posted on 10/14/2002 6:32:50 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh Sh#T.

Not another 4 years of Doofus.

12 posted on 10/14/2002 6:32:57 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
Try to understand the demographics. It is OVER in California. It will be coming to other states soon. Americans are being inundated.
13 posted on 10/14/2002 6:40:05 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Inspectorette
I guess everyone in California has lost all reason to common sense.

No, not everyone. A lot of Freepers are Californians, including Jim and JohnRob

I stand corrected. Usually a blanket statement is never correct. Thank you for being there and carrying the water.
14 posted on 10/14/2002 6:40:15 PM PDT by HoundsTooth_BP
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Poll conducted 10-11-02 and 10-12-02. Sample
of 711 registered voters from the State of California.
Margin of error is plus or minus 3.8 percent. Results may
not add up to 100 percent because percentages are rounded to whole
numbers.
15 posted on 10/14/2002 6:42:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Inspectorette
Please help us SPREAD THE WORD about our NEXT "Dump DAVIS!" FReep - in SACRAMENTO!
...to see what bad, bad things Davis has done...
LOL!

Click on that link for a VIDEO version of www.eGray.org - set to music!

We now have some GREAT sign ideas for the FReep:
FIRE GRAY DAVIS!
and
He did a bad, bad, thing.
See also:
"Dump DAVIS!"
Get the FACTS
about our "Pay for Play" governor at:
www.eGray.org


"We, the people of the State of California,
refuse to take it any longer;
we will fire Gray Davis on November 5th."

from
www.FIREdavis.com

The "DumpDAVIS"/"FIRE Gray DAVIS" FReep in SACRAMENTO will be:
Saturday (10/19) - 1 pm to 3 pm
- on the South Steps of the Capitol building in Sacramento

FReepers from all across California will gather on the Capitol Steps to "Dump DAVIS!"
Jim Robinson will be there.
Eric Hogue with Sacramento radio station KTKZ (1380-AM) will broadcast LIVE from the FReep!
theme: "Dump DAVIS"/"FIRE Gray Davis"
(Get your picture taken in front of a GIANT "dump truck"/or "PINK SLIP"...)
And, join us for a post-FReep PARTY at the Hyatt Regency:
Good food, GREAT fellowship, and daviddennis FReep videos on their BIG SCREEN TV!

See also this MONSTER billboard on the south side of the westbound 10 freeway in downtown Los Angeles:



** H E R E ** H E R E ! ! !

7 posted on 10/13/02 3:17 PM Pacific by webber

I will have the "little brother" of that MONSTER sign in Sacramento for the FReep.
MY "FIRE Gray Davis" sign is ("only") ten feet by three feet...
By comparison, this "DUMP DAVIS" sign - which will ALSO be at the Sacto FReep - is six feet by two feet:

RonDog, Jimbaugh, ?, ?, ?, not-yet-FReepers
(Monique and Simon), dalereed
after the "Bill & Rudy" rally in San Diego

16 posted on 10/14/2002 6:43:07 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Try to understand the demographics. It is OVER in California. It will be coming to other states soon. Americans are being inundated

I hope you are wrong, but my fear is that you are right and it is only a matter of time.
17 posted on 10/14/2002 6:43:26 PM PDT by HoundsTooth_BP
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To: heartwood
You lie. It was "likely voters", not registered voters.
Insiders with the Simon team say that their recent internal polling of "very likely voters" puts Simon AHEAD of eGray by 3-4 points...
18 posted on 10/14/2002 6:46:03 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: HoundsTooth_BP
What can Simon do at this late date?
He is already DOING it: campaigning with the two most popular political leaders in America, George Bush and Rudy Giuliani:
San Diego- SIMON & RUDY EVENT FREE ! ! ! 10/13
http://www.simonforgovernor.com/ ^ | 10-12-02 | jimbaugh
Posted on 10/12/2002 4:30 PM Pacific by Jimbaugh

and

FREE Giuliani/Simon Reception in SAN FRANCISCO!
Posted on 10/13/2002 1:26 PM Pacific by Mediaqueen
OK, Bay Area, It's OUR turn now! A FREE reception featuring Bill Simon and Rudy Giulani!
and

Los Angeles FRN Chapter Freeps for Simon Giuliani in Burbank, Ca
Los Angeles FRN Chapter | 10/13/2002 | DoughtyOne
Posted on 10/13/2002 3:00 PM Pacific by DoughtyOne

FreeRepublic Network Los Angeles Chapter Freeps for Simon Giuliani

for MORE of this post-FReep report - CLICK HERE!
See also this RE-post:

Conservative Triumphs in California GOP Primary
Human Events (COVER!) ^ | John Gizzi
Posted on 03/12/2002 11:32 AM Pacific by ElkGroveDan








Conservative Triumphs in California GOP Primary
Simon Stomps Riordan
By John Gizzi

Los Angeles, Calif.—"Simon! Simon! Simon!"

The cheers from the largely conservative Republican crowd gathered here at the Los Angeles Airport Westin Hotel on Tuesday evening were as much about their own cause as for the man on stage, businessman William Simon, Jr., who had just won a surprisingly large come-from-behind landslide victory in the California gubernatorial primary over former Los Angeles Mayor Richard Riordan.

In winning the right to face embattled Democratic Gov. Gray Davis this fall, first-time candidate Simon demolished Riordan by 49% to 31%, with Secretary of State Bill Jones placing third at 17%. This was a shift of 58% from just two months ago, when Riordan was leading in the polls by 40%.

Not since Bruce Herschensohn defeated liberal Rep. Tom Campbell in the Republican U.S. Senate primary here a decade ago had the conservative grass-roots activists in this state dealt such a significant blow to the party faction they characterize as "RINOs" (Republicans In Name Only).

Reagan Formula

Riordan’s double-digit lead over Simon began imploding by the end of January when Simon, Jones, the media, and Gov. Davis himself exposed GOP primary voters to the 71-year-old Riordan’s record on key issues: favoring partial birth abortion, endorsing President Clinton’s record-high 1993 tax increase, opposing George W. Bush’s tax cut last year, favoring affirmative action, an amnesty for illegal immigrants, and saying he would "consider" legalizing homosexual marriage.

The former mayor was also forced to defend his record of making large contributions to a string of left-of-center Democrats, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Rep. Maxine Waters, and Gov. Davis himself.

Former federal prosecutor Alfredo Jarrin of Palos Verdes seemed to be speaking for tens of thousands of California Republicans when, over breakfast at the Jonathan Club in Los Angeles on the Sunday before the balloting, he told me: "I will vote for Bill Simon. Why should any Republican vote for a candidate who seems ashamed of being a Republican?"

The 46-year-old Simon put up $5 million of his own money and raised another $4 million to underscore a message that clearly stimulated conservatives. Unlike Riordan, he is pro-life and unambiguously against tax hikes. Indeed, he vowed that the first thing he would do as governor was "reduce your taxes." He also said he would back more local control of education, support energy deregulation, and "safeguard our borders." (Some on the right complained, however, that he discussed illegal immigration infrequently and only when asked.)

"Bill appears to have tapped the forgotten formula Ronald Reagan put together in 1966—never back down on your conservative beliefs, but be compassionate rather than angry in expressing them," State GOP Chairman Shawn Steel told me Saturday before the primary. "And it looks like it’s working."

Much was made in the California media last week about Davis’s intervention in the Republican contest. It is estimated that he spent $8-10 million slamming Riordan in TV ads that depicted the former mayor as flip-flopping on the death penalty (which he now favors) and abortion (he once called it "murder," now he favors legalized partial-birth abortion).

The Davis blitz, said Steel, was "the equivalent of a general parachuting commandoes into the enemy camp to shoot up the Officer’s Club."

In the weekend before the primary, an obviously exasperated Riordan denounced the governor, charging that Davis’s "gloating that he hijacked the Republican primary [is] just like Mussolini bragging about killing a lot of his enemies."

But given the size of Simon’s eventual margin over Riordan, his triumph cannot be attributed solely to Davis’s ads. Noting that the ads started on January 20, Simon pollster Stephen Kinney of Public Opinion Strategies argued they "actually had little impact on Riordan’s ballot numbers. By early February, a public poll still found Riordan leading 41% to 24% over Simon, with Jones down to 9%." It was former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s strong endorsement of his onetime assistant federal prosecutor Simon, according to Kinney, that "provided the initial kick, and then by connecting the endorsement with an economic message that GOP primary voters were focused on [Simon’s promise to cut taxes], Simon kept climbing."

Simon’s big surge came shortly after the state convention, when former Republican Gov. George Deukemejian and three past state party chairmen announced they would not vote for Riordan if he were the nominee. If the Davis ads did anything, argued Kinney, "they caused voters to pay attention to the campaign" and "shook Riordan personally and caused him to make numerous mistakes, such as talking about abortion at a time when voters were focused on the economy."

Riordan also cut his appearances to one per day and denounced Simon as an "extremist" whose pro-life views would drive away women voters.

Having initially refused to appear on most talk radio programs, Riordan finally began frantically trying to get on the programs of Warren Duffy of Orange County, Hugh Hewitt of Los Angeles, Lee Rogers of San Francisco, and other popular conservative radio hosts.

Pointing out that Riordan’s Democratic consultants never understood what a strong medium talk radio is for California GOP primary voters, veteran Los Angeles talkmeister Ray Briem told me, "Riordan never called me for an interview and I never wanted him."

Having encouraged Riordan to run after attempting unsuccessfully last year to entice Arnold Schwarzenegger to make the race, the Bush White House began to move away from their favored candidate on the eve of the voting. "The President has always said he will support the nominee," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer told reporters. Almost as if preparing for the inevitable, California Bushman-in-Chief Gerald Parsky told me, "I met with representatives of all the candidates at the San Jose [state GOP] convention last month and told them that the President would be out in California not long after the [gubernatorial] decision was made and would campaign for whoever was the nominee."

"Bill Simon is a true-blue, think-tank conservative, and that’s all right," Davis told cheering Democrats at their primary night party at the Biltmore Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. An obviously pleased Davis then ticked off the issues he and Simon disagreed about: abortion, gun control, school vouchers, and further deregulation of the state’s energy industry. "California can’t go backward," said Davis, "and it certainly can’t go right."

But will Davis’s plan to portray Simon as "too" conservative gain traction with California voters who are clearly disgruntled with a governor who has brought them an energy crunch, a $12-billion budget deficit and a tax increase? A recent Field poll showed that only three in five Democrats say they are inclined to support Davis for re-election. According to Field Poll Director Mark DiCamillo, Davis "is very weak in core constituencies."

At a cookout in Pasadena the Saturday before the primary, local real estate agent Kathy Soulek, a lifelong Democrat who was "very happy" that Democrat Adam Schiff had unseated Republican Rep. Jim Rogan in her district last year, told me, "I will vote for Dick Riordan in November." Asked how she would vote if Riordan wasn’t the nominee, she said, "Then I will vote for Bill Simon. Gray Davis is an idiot."

Similarly, actress Jeanine Jackson, also a Democrat, told me the next day at Mastro’s Steakhouse in Los Angeles: "I voted for Gray Davis last time, but I don’t think I will this time. He hasn’t seemed to have done anything the past four years."

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19 posted on 10/14/2002 6:55:24 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: NormsRevenge
"Poll conducted 10-11-02 and 10-12-02. "

This poll was taken on a holiday weekend. It is worthless.
20 posted on 10/14/2002 6:56:54 PM PDT by LarryM
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