Posted on 01/22/2009 12:00:43 PM PST by real_patriotic_american
No. 08A524 Title: Gail Lightfoot, et al., Applicants v. Debra Bowen, California Secretary of State
Docketed: Lower Ct: Supreme Court of California Case Nos.: (S168690)
~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dec 12 2008 Application (08A524) for a stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, submitted to Justice Kennedy. Dec 17 2008 Application (08A524) denied by Justice Kennedy. Dec 29 2008 Application (08A524) refiled and submitted to The Chief Justice. Jan 7 2009 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 23, 2009. Jan 7 2009 Application (08A524) referred to the Court. Jan 13 2009 Suggestion for recusal received from applicant.
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~~Name~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Address~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~Phone~~~ Attorneys for Petitioners: Orly Taitz 26302 La Paz (949) 683-5411 Counsel of Record Mission Viejo, CA 92691 Party name: Gail Lightfoot, et al.
You said — “Arnold could run if the CFR, Bilderbergers and Tri-Lats are behind him, and he will win.”
I suppose the conspiracy-minded will float that scenario... LOL...
These groups exist, and there is no conspiracy when it is the truth.
You said — “These groups exist, and there is no conspiracy when it is the truth.”
Those “names” exist in the world we live in. As to “who” they are and “what” they are doing and what they are accomplishing and what they are trying to do — that — is the “conspiracy talk” that exists in many places...
I can come up with all sorts of “names” of groups out there... but it doesn’t mean a thing...
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The only thing that the Bible makes clear that is a “conspiracy” of any sort — is something that is done “outside of this world” and is in the hands of Satan in bringing about his kingdom on this earth — that he has been granted by God to set up (in due time).
If one wants to talk about conspiracies — that’s the only one to talk about...
Do more research as... about 15+ years ...so you can catch up.
God has done the research for us, in the Bible and He tells us who is the only one we have to be concerned about.
Just as the founding fathers (also) told us that no nation could be founded without the help of our Creator God, in like manner nothing happens in nations without our Creator God being in complete control of everything, as the Bible tells us.
We have nothing to be concerned about — in terms of any organization weilding any power or being involved in any conspiracy, because God controls the “strings” over everything and everyone in this world, including the strings controlling Satan. His time will come and when it does, it’s by God’s timing that the world comes under the control of Satan, completely, as the Bible tells us it will. And at the end of Satan’s time here on earth, he will be totally destroyed, with all his accomplices, and Jesus, the Messiah of Israel, will set up the world-wide rule over all the nations and rule from Jerusalem, upon the Throne of David...
I would say that you need to catch up to what God is doing in the world, first...
Would PLEASE give it a rest and stop replying to me, PLEASE! You have nothing to say of any interest to me.
Orly Taitz has Lightfoot vs. Bowen filed in Federal Court (Santa Ana, CA. - Central Division).
...which will probably dismiss it for lack of subject-matter jurisdiction, based either on lack of standing or nonjusticiability. (BTW, not to quibble, but the Santa Ana courthouse is in the Southern Division of the Central District).
I’m going to say that since Dr. Taitz is representing one of the candidates, Alan Keyes, that the case will have standing.
And wait until Orly Taitz group gets to the U.S. Attorneys in all 50 States of the Country. We will hear some noise.
Also, thank you for correcting me in that the Federal Court in Santa Ana, CA. is in their Southern Division, Central District. I’ve delivered legal documents all around there when I was working at a Irvine law firm.
Since Keyes would not have won a single electoral vote even if all votes for Obama were thrown out, I'm going to say that I respectfully disagree that he has standing.
And wait until Orly Taitz group gets to the U.S. Attorneys in all 50 States of the Country. We will hear some noise.
What makes you think they will pay any more attention to her than the courts have?
Why would the number of electoral votes determine standing rather than being a candidate? If Obama should not have been in the running in the first place (I’m aware of Obamas’ argument that non-natural born candidates have historically been in the race, but I don’t consider that a valid argument), then would it not follow that the electoral votes are nullified?
(I’m not trying to be argumentative, just looking for clarification on the rationales.)
The usual definition of standing in U.S. law is that the plaintiff must have (1) suffered some personal, particularized injury, (2) which was caused by an illegal act of the defendant, and (3) which would be cured by a decision in the plaintiff’s favor. If Keyes is basing standing on his status as a candidate, he loses at step 3, because a decision that Obama was disqualified wouldn’t hand the election to Keyes.
Hmm.
That is predicated on whether or not Obama should have been in the race to begin with, is it not? e.g. If Obama should not have been a candidate to begin with, who can say how Keyes would have done against Hillary?
By running while not being qualified, Obama poisoned the process.
Or does that not matter in the eyes of the law once Obama signed the papers and started the campaign?
Why will Taitz make some noise with the U.S. Attorneys in all 50 States, because that will provide her with political capital. When is the Department of Justice going to conduct an investigation of Obama’s original birth certificate?
Understood. Thanks for the explanation.
I can’t help but think timing is more important than right or wrong here, but, if that’s how the law works, so be it. Perhaps justice and recourse must be sought elsewhere...
... and Obama wants to spend our tax dollar to kill babies in foreign countries (with abortions) while at the same time he wants to protect the rights of terrorists (the most savage murderers imagineable).
The courts can still reverse the Electoral College certification. My question is how would McCain have faired against Hilary? I believe McCain/Palin would have won.
According to the lawyers, it doesn’t seem to work that way. But who knows...
McCain isn’t eligible either. The house resolution 511 or whatever it was, to somehow show McCain was eligible, doesn’t mean a darn thing.
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