Posted on 08/05/2014 6:20:08 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Chris McDaniel on Monday officially contested results showing he lost a Republican primary to Mississippi Sen. Thad Cochran, revealing what his camp alleges is evidence of voter fraud and other irregularities.
"They asked us to put up or shut up. Here we are. Here we are with the evidence," McDaniel said at a news conference in Jackson.
McDaniel, a state senator, has refused to concede the June 24 runoff result and filed a formal challenge with the Mississippi Republican Party's executive committee. The case could eventually wind up in court.
The challenge outlined claims of more than 15,000 cases of illegal or questionable votes, of which 3,500 were crossover votes. The official state count puts Cochran ahead by more than 7,600 votes.
McDaniel is asking to make the case publicly before the state GOP executive committee and he anticipates a "hearing in a public forum."(continued)
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NIght school
Then it's a lose-lose because no McDaniel voter will vote for Cochran. I'd think there's far less a chance of McDaniel for Cochran votes than vice versa.
Thanks. That’s exactly what I was looking for. It’s 28 pages of a filing plus probably hundreds of pages of affidavits submitted by McDaniel’s team.
On page 206 of the filing is an affidavit by a Baird Moor stating that on June 30th he counted 50 crossover votes (where “voted” was written in the Dem poll book for the June 3rd election and then again in the same poll book when it was used for the GOP runoff—the Dem poll book was used so that those who’d already voted in the Dem primary could be easily identified, and presumably turned away.)
Anyway, when he returned on July 8th, at least 41 of those “voted” notations for June 3rd had been crossed out as though they were entered there by mistake.
Note that those strike-throughs must have occurred between 6 and 14 days after the election, not on the day of the election, since Mr. Moor didn’t see them present on June 30th. Note also that these “corrections” were actually made to the June 3rd record, indicating that someone supposedly “remembered” that those particular 41 people hadn’t actually voted on June 3rd, almost a month earlier than the date of the corrections.
This is why, if the election board doesn’t take any action satisfactory to McDaniel, the matter will end up in court, so people can be put under oath to testify as to how those strike-throughs came about.
I also believe that there are a lot more than 41 such strike-throughs statewide, but this one just happened to have been caught by one of McDaniel’s team.
I hope you are right and I am wrong.
My faith in the Electorate took a nose dive in 2008 and it slammed into the ground in 2012.
And yet you appear to expect the McDaniel people to vote for Cochran.
THIS is why your arguments fall on many deaf ears, FRiend. The double standard is not your friend.
I have some Relatives in MS who Voted for McDaniel.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven, but I get your point that the perception that McDaniel is a sore loser could stick. Such is the way of the world when the message is controlled by our Political enemies.
That fact only proves to me that the majority of Voters are ignorant and do not take the value of their Vote seriously. McDaniel is a Victim of a well orchestrated “circumstance”, and there isn’t enough outrage to help him prevail.
I never thought Mississippi would be the forefront of a Banana Republic, but here we are. To think I used to like Hayley Barbour and actually shook his hand and shared a short conversation with him at CPAC way back when.
Also, around page 104 of the filing’s appendices, there is a list of approximately 500 Hinds Co voters with the June 3rd “voted” notation struck through, and who had also voted on June 24th. These are not counted as crossover votes, but as irregularities, but in my opinion at least they are very likely crossover votes that were “corrected” later by someone.
That “someone” needs to be testifying in front of a judge at some point, unless the MS GOP executive committee folds and orders either a new election, or just awards it to McDaniel outright (unlikely, although the prospect of someone higher up going to jail might increase the odds a bit.)
McDaniel did not ask for a new election, only to be declared the winner outright. Speaking as a lawyer (albeit not a Mississippi lawyer), I think that was a strategic blunder. The Mississippi Republican Committee is going to tell him to pound sand, and when he goes to court, the judge will say, "maybe you have enough evidence of irregular votes to get a new election, but you didn't ask for that, and there is no provision of state law allowing the court to declare you the winner."
I could be wrong, of course, but my bet is that a judge will dismiss the case without a trial and without discovery on the ground that he asked for the wrong remedy.
Until the GOP starts representing and working for us instead of crapping on us they can suffer the consequences of their poor behavior.
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YES!!!
DAMN!!! That is impressive.
If Chris ends up losing this battle, in the end, I suggest that a great majority of his supporters will stay home on Election Day, skip the Senate Race on the ballot, or vote for the Dem. Either way..... Bye, bye Thad. You crusty, old, senile fart.
I was being kind. In actuality a political purist is a fool, because politics is the practice of deals and compromises with people you do not agree with.
Most of whom I referred to as purists were instead libertarians who are inwardly happy to prod conservatives into suicidal positions such as voting for dems to teach them a lesson.
Most of whom I referred to as purists were instead libertarians who are inwardly happy to prod conservatives into suicidal positions such as voting for dems to teach them a lesson.
-Bailing out big business
-Raising the debt ceiling which keeps getting us deeper and deeper in debt. Our kids and grandkids will be slaves to the state
-Funding obamacare. (Even I could come up with a better plan to cover uninsured-low income goes to Medicaid-insurance cos allowed to sell across state lines, tort reform-any insurance co that wants to sell ins must take an equal share of people of with pre-existing conditions, no exceptions.)
-TERM LIMITS!!!
-anytime the president issues a unlawful executive order, DONT fund it!
-don’t be like a democrat and lie to us, cheat us or steal from us.
-do the will of your constituents, not your campaign donors.
-equal justice under the law. Make everyone live under the same rules and laws. No exceptions, especially those who force the law on us and doesn't want to live under that law.
-stand up to democrat and the media. Know your fact on issues, speak the truth and quit being politically correct or worry about “Your friends on the other side of the aisle”.
You think purist are fools while I think rinos are corrupt. I do think it's past time for a third party. Both parties are arrogant and corrupt. Liberals are running to the left and rinos are chasing them there. It's a wide road that leads to hell and this country is headed that way.
I agree with you. And that’s what I’m saying. The guy was screwed, but should have taken, and in fact, it’s not too late.
Drop this lawsuit thing, and swallow hard and get behind Cochran. I know that doesn’t sit well with 90% on this forum, but that’s what he should do.
And guess what? He’ll be the next in line when Cochran steps down which may be sooner than you think.
They will if McDaniel endorses Cochran.
What you say is true, BUT those are simply the symptoms of the problem not the problem itself.
You say “If a politician can’t stand up to the left they need to let someone who isn’t afraid lead”, the problem is very few of the right people care or dare to run because of the money required to successfully campaign, the diverted time necessary to “politic” for all that campaign money and the certain undeserved smearing of their good name. What we end up with is politicians that have no qualms running around with a tin cup in their hand like the guy on the corner at Walmart. Once settled in as a begger for campaign money, it is too hard to then regrow principles.
I firmly believe that American politics is like a pendulum. Sometimes its swung to the right and sometimes its toward the left. Both sides try to put their hand on the pendulum to stop it on their side. Being truly a land of immigrants is the double edged sword that eventually leads America away from our English/Western European “Founding Fathers” establishment.
To a large degree our politics is the way it is because humans (voters) are basically greedy and want whatever they can get, however they can get it. To get campaign money and votes the politician is happy to give voters access to the collective treasury.
How to get out of this mess? As conservatives we probably eventually don’t because our Founding Father’s heritage continues to dilute. Sadly the eventual answer for conservative values, may be a new start in a divided USA.
Same if Cochran endorses McDaniel but be prepared to eat Popsicles in hell first.
Yes, like they did in TN on August 7, you must mean???
Let’s see how many of the RINOs survive November 4th. I think there is a serious chance that Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham and Thad Cochran could go down in defeat..... They have so angered their base.... Hell hath no fury like a scorned Tea Party-style Conservative.
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