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The Official 2016 GOP Field Gets Its First Real Contender: Marco Rubio
FiveThirtyEight ^ | April 13, 2015 | Harry Enten

Posted on 04/13/2015 10:33:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: tina07

I was watching clips from Hannity tonight on breitbart and, HOLY SWEAT, he was dripping with it!

Hannity was sitting there cool as a cucumber, and Rubio was toweling himself every few seconds, I mean what the heck...

21 posted on 04/13/2015 11:47:42 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: __rvx86

The INS is part of DHS and under the president.


22 posted on 04/13/2015 11:49:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Marco's tax plan is a joke.

The answer is to simplify radically and to reduce rates across the board.

Not to compete with the 'Rats to see who can offer the "middle chump class" the best deal.

23 posted on 04/14/2015 12:26:00 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: chris37

It’s a common problem amongst liars. Bad liars, at least.


24 posted on 04/14/2015 12:55:45 AM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MaxMax

The MSM including Fox “from what I’ve seen” are barely mentioning Cruz.
Out of sight, out of mind.

....Yes, at least they must think so! Rombot on Sunday with Wallass ticked off Repubs running and didn’t even mention the FIRST declared candidate, and only mentioned Rubio with prompting. Pretty transparent gopE b*tc#es...

ymmv


25 posted on 04/14/2015 3:27:43 AM PDT by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hahahaha...yeah right!


26 posted on 04/14/2015 3:33:05 AM PDT by erod (Chicago Conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rubio? Uh, no.


27 posted on 04/14/2015 3:36:32 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First real contender? What’s Ted Cruz? Chopped liver?


28 posted on 04/14/2015 3:41:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you count Amnesty as one of maybe a dozen key issues and weigh it equally as one of, maybe, 12 issues, Rubio does fairly good in most stack-ups (I suspect that’s the case here). He seems good on guns, taxes, foreign policy.

Yes, on Amnesty, he (along with about 20 other Republicans) voted for that 2014 Senate bill. Just one mistake, one bad vote. Perhaps he was distracted that day?

...but NO! Amnesty was not “just one vote”. It was NOT a water project or even closing the so-called ‘gun show loophole’. It was a GAME CHANGER, something that in one generation (or less) meant THE END of conservatism in the United States (i.e., either the Republicans stayed conservative and got 35-40% of the vote, or they went far-left and got closer to 50%, but either way conservatism and the United States loses).

So it was bad enough that he voted for it. But he did MUCH MORE. He LED THE CHARGE for it. He was the face of Amnesty for Republicans. He later explained that he knew he went overboard on the side of Amnesty but was trying to put the Senate in a “strong position” when negotiating against the House in Conference. Well, sorry, that might make perfect sense for Schumer, but it makes NO SENSE for someone that wants to come across as a conservative. And with the House leadership seriously compromised and dozens of ‘Republicans’ sold-out and ready to support some form of Amnesty, it was a VERY DANGEROUS game to play. In fact it was an absolute miracle that Cantor was defeated last year, which is what it took to stop Rubio’s grand plan.

But, in the end, perhaps he’s vying for either a VP slot or maybe thinking longer term and looking to finally slay Jeb, and possibly Walker, thereby opening the field up for Cruz. If that is his strategy, I’ll certainly respect him for it - but I’m not ready to forgive him, not now, probably not for a decade. But if he is #2 to Cruz, I’d be ok with that - but I’d prefer to see Martinez run with Cruz. It would be GREAT to have a pretty face contrasting The Hag.


29 posted on 04/14/2015 3:51:37 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can only remain impressed by his turnaround on immigration two years ago and due to that single betrayal understand his sheer capacity to destroy his otherwise good standing. I would prefer that Walker or Perry emerge out of the pack as the nominee’s this election cycle. That said, Rubio is conservative but he never fully articulated his treachery on that senate vote.


30 posted on 04/14/2015 5:10:22 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moses smell the roses...


31 posted on 04/14/2015 5:37:26 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Impy

Anyone that calls backstabbing weasel and liar Marco Rubio the “First Real Contender” deserves nothing but divisive laughter to their face.


32 posted on 04/14/2015 6:04:28 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy
Derisive laughter, even.
33 posted on 04/14/2015 6:05:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy

I must say, I would have been skeptical of what Silver describes as “conservative positions” even if he hadn’t placed Ron and Rand Paul as among the three most conservative GOP presidential candidates ever.

And the “fundraising” data point is just laughable. Silver is trying to determine how conservative a candidate is from his fundraising? So if he holds a fundraiser at French restaurant that means that he’s not conservative, but if it’s at a rib joint then he is? Or is he assuming how conservative the candidate’s donors are from their employer or profession? Give me a break!


34 posted on 04/14/2015 6:19:29 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: MaxMax

CRUZ is the real thing and they know it. I feel he can and will win the nomination and go on to be our next president (if the Reps can control the cheating at the critical voting booths.)
It is very evident that they are trying to ignore CRUZ. ( its been said before, “ outa sight, outa mind” but it ain’t gonna work.”


35 posted on 04/14/2015 6:30:50 AM PDT by depenzz ("it isn't a chance you take, its a choice you make")
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To: jospehm20

Well I like Marco Rubio because he’s a likeable guy. The only misstep he has made is being naïve enough to let Chuck Schumer suck him into the Gang of Eight. But that’s the problem. Its a sign of lack of maturity and good judgement. He’s smart enough to be President I just don’t think Rubio is mature enough.

My guess is that after this presidential cycle Marco will run for Governor in FL and maybe after 4 years as Governor he can try again.


36 posted on 04/14/2015 7:46:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: depenzz
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31 million raised in a single week ... without massive publicized requests or a huge mail campaign ... scares the hell out of Cruz's opponents ...

that fund raising effort ... very quietly done ... echos the "nuclear weapon" effect of the $ 872,000 "quietly" raised by the pizza place ...


the combined donations of tens of thousands of Americans fed-up with the GOPe ...

when they form Cruz's "political infantry" (sign builders, prescient walkers, phone bank callers) is gonna be HUGE ...


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37 posted on 04/14/2015 9:56:34 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WOW...Rand Paul has the most conservative voting record in congress? More conservative than Ted Cruz? Holy chihuahua!


38 posted on 04/14/2015 11:19:51 AM PDT by entropy12 (My prediction: Governor Walker will win Iowa & NH primaries.)
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To: entropy12

No he doesn’t. Mike Lee does.


39 posted on 04/14/2015 11:22:56 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is Mike Lee running for president?


40 posted on 04/14/2015 11:42:59 AM PDT by entropy12 (My prediction: Governor Walker will win Iowa & NH primaries.)
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