Posted on 09/29/2015 7:21:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The funniest part of this story isnt that theyre obsessing over an online predictions website. The funniest part is that Jebs standing in that market really might be the best argument they have left to donors to stay aboard while this ship drifts aimlessly towards Iowa and New Hampshire. If PredictIt is for Jeb, who can be against him?
Except PredictIt isnt for Jeb anymore.
For the past week, Jeb Bushs campaign advisers have been using a new data point to convince nervous donors that hes still the candidate to beat: Bushs lead in the political prediction markets.
Just one problem: Beginning Sunday night, PredictIt, the biggest of the online sites and the one referenced last week by top Bush advisers and confidants, placed Florida Sen. Marco Rubio ahead of Bush at the head of the GOP pack
I dont know if its panic or paranoia in Miami, but they are losing [Scott] Walker people to Marco, and if you say whats true, they get mad, said one Bush donor, who spoke to POLITICO on the condition of anonymity. I think its just reflective of whats been going on for the past month or so and the way the race, at least in the establishment lane, has shifted. Its really Jeb or Marco now. Marcos fundraising has picked up, and Jebs has stayed flat.
Another Bush donor invited to Miami, assessing the state of anxiety within the former Florida governors operation on a scale of 1 to 10, put the panic level at a 6 or 7.
PredictIt has Rubio at 38 cents, Bush at 35, and Trump at 19. Interestingly, both Carly Fiorina and John Kasich are slightly higher than Ted Cruz, presumably because theyre more palatable to establishment Republicans. As for Jeb, I think the reason his teams worked up over a predictions market isnt just the fact that its a rare bright spot in his campaign fortunes lately, its that inevitability has always been his core argument to donors. Skip the more dynamic centrists like Christie and the more electable center-righties like Rubio, Team Bush argues, and sign up with the guy whom we all know is going to win the nomination because thats what Bushes do. Once the inevitability argument fades, all thats left is the idea that Jebs financial advantage is so enormous that hell be able to effectively buy the nomination if need be. He can out-advertise and out-organize Rubio because his budgets bigger. But increasingly that wont be true either: As noted, Rubios already picking up some of Walkers infrastructure. If and when Christie drops out, some of that will likely gravitate to Rubio too as the last best chance of the Not Jeb crowd. In fact, a weird point of commonality between Jeb and his nemesis Trump is that both of them rely heavily on the idea that theyre going to win as an argument for why they should win. Thats not true for Jeb anymore, and if Trumps polls start slipping, it wont be true for him either. The difference is, Trump will still have a populist base once his aura of invincibility disappears. What will Jeb have?
Hell have this, I guess.
Yes, youre reading that correctly. Even the famously unpopular Chris Christie has a higher net favorable rating among Republicans now than Jeb Bush does. Trump, who was deep underwater among GOP voters four months ago, does better than both of them. Bushs huge ad budget might change that, but will it change it so much as to erase Rubios enormous advantage in this metric?
I wonder if, at this point, Jebs best hope isnt for Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy to cave to conservatives and produce a shutdown over Planned Parenthood this fall. Thats risky in light of the CW that any potential Republican nominee will suffer by association with his party in the aftermath of that, but if Bush condemned the tactic as irresponsible, maybe itd channel some of the frustration GOP centrists feel over brinksmanship and galvanize support for him as the adult in the room or whatever. The conservative base would hate him even more than they do now, but they werent voting for him to begin with. His problem at the moment is that hes being overlooked by the center-right voters he covets. Denouncing a shutdown might get their attention. And a shutdown could be especially agonizing for Rubio, whos trying to balance his appeal to the center as an electable moderate with his appeal to the right as a guy they can trust to hold the conservative line on, er, everything except immigration. Thats another reason why Ted Cruz is eager to leverage the shutdown debate in the Senate: He knows what his position is on this and he also knows that Rubios going to get burned no matter which side he takes, alienating either centrists or conservatives. If Rubio backs a shutdown, the donor class will be horrified and Jeb will benefit. If he opposes a shutdown, the base will be horrified and Cruz will benefit. Presumably hell oppose the shutdown, partly because Bush is (momentarily) a bigger threat to him than Cruz, partly because its more important for him to make donors happy right now when the field is still this big, and partly because he doesnt want the headache of defending a shutdown in the general election if hes the nominee. But well see.
Your exit question: If Jebs big financial advantage is going to translate into rosy poll numbers eventually, how come it hasnt already? Because hes the big ad spender of the campaign so far, as it turns out.
Mark Murray
✔ @mmurraypolitics
Look who's now leading the TV-ad spending race. Jeb Bush (Super
PAC, camp) -- and it all started this month
3:01 PM - 29 Sep 2015
Mario Rubio is dead to me.
Another surrender monkey.
He’s too childish for my taste, and more loyal to Mexicans than to the constitution. No dice. Even if they force me with a GOPe fast move by leaving me no choice.
It might be better to vote for Hillary directly than continue to endure the death of a thousand cuts with the repubs.
Rubio, the unAmerican coward, did not vote today.
For he is an undeclared Democrat. just like the others.
Rubio? Seriesly? Do they get paid for this crap? (And I’m not saying that because I dislike Rubio, but just analyzing his chances).
No queremos Rubio.
What’s left of the American white male slave class has zero use for No-Show Rubio’s check-writing hands and surrender tendencies.
I said weeks ago Jebbers would drop and punt to his punk Marco polo. Cruz, Trump or Carson.for me. I am done with freaking rinos. Never again. A vote for a loser rino is a vote for hillary.
You are right. Another dem in the closet. NO MORE RINOs
I told someone that and they accused me of throwing my vote to hillary if I don’t vote for Rubio or bush. I got right in their face and said oh yeah voting for the last three loser rinos has worked out real well for the country. You can’t fix stupid.
Every time I see Rubio, I just think of a snotty nose little kid that needs a good spanking, that`s the way I have always seen him, I never saw what people were saying a number of years ago, a star in the making, I never saw him that way ever.
They really think conservatives are going to eat whatever s—t sandwich the GOPE nominates.
I know a lot of my friends who said they are completely done with the Republicans and will not even bother to vote.
Geeze, I admire whoever their dealer is.
Them drugs must be frickin ahhhsum...
Jeb has been given a month to turn things around and Rubio is untrustworthy. So, the GOPe will try and change the delegate/primary voting rules rules to favor one of the two men. Watch and see.
The RNC has to deliver the amnesty candidate that the Cheap Labor Express paid for.
The Ministry of Propaganda has been working overtime trying to get us to like one of the Cheap Labor Express candidates.
In other words we will have a choice between putting the gun to our head or suffer death by a thousand cuts by a sharp knife.
The only polls that mean anything are the ones where Trump/Cruz are on top...the rest is garbage.....
WE DON'T WANT NO STINKING PRO AMNESTY IDIOT. DEPORT HIM ALONG WITH THE OTHER ILLEGALS.
I want a Constitutionalist and a known Terrorist fighter.
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