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Lion Ted: Cruz Crushes the Detroit Debate
The Weekly Standard ^ | March 4, 2016 | Jonathan V. Last

Posted on 03/04/2016 1:33:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In theory, Ted Cruz's best states are behind him. But at the Detroit debate, Cruz was clearly the class of the field and it's clear that no one should count him out as the delegate race moves into its next phase.

The delegate math is complicated, but the basic gist goes something like this: Donald Trump has a commanding lead at the moment, but it is not a given that he will reach the 1,237 threshold he needs to clinch a majority. Simply put, Trump has failed to break through the ceiling of support he's held since New Hampshire even as the field has consolidated. While he will be helped by winner-take-all states, where he can sweep full slates of delegates even with his plurality, he may be hurt by closed-primary states, where only Republicans vote. So his path is more challenging than it appears.

Cruz's path is more challenging still. But tonight's strong performance can only help Cruz--both with voters and with the party regulars who would play a big role in deciding the nominee should there be a brokered convention.

What Cruz did at the debate was make three parallel cases:

1.) Trump is a fraud who can't be trusted to keep his word.

2.) Trump is not either conservative or Republican in any meaningful way.

3.) Trump actually is the corruption that he decries.

He advanced these arguments not one at a time, but by interweaving them with specific attacks:

* He positively crushed Trump on the use of foreign labor at Mar-a-Lago. He didn't just bring up the fact that hundreds of applicants applied for these jobs but that Trump prefers to hire foreigners instead, but included Trump's line from the last post-debate interview where he claimed that these were jobs American workers couldn't and wouldn't do.

* He thoroughly prosecuted Trump on the question of Trump's off-the-record New York Times interview, which Trump steadfastly refuses to release.

* At the end of the segment on Trump University--where Trump's best defense was telling voters that they should "wait a few years" to see whether or not he committed fraud, Cruz flashed in with a rapier: "Megyn, let me ask the voters at home, is this the debate you want playing out in the general election?" It was brutal.

* When Trump went to his poll numbers--as he always does--Cruz was ready. Trump touted a terrible CNN poll showing him at 49 percent support. Cruz waited for Trump to double down and defend the integrity of the poll. And then he noted that this same poll also showed Trump losing to Clinton and Cruz beating her.

* When the Second Amendment came up, Trump made a gauzy statement of general support. Cruz then dropped the hammer:

It is easy for political candidates to have rhetoric and say, "I support the Second Amendment." But you cannot say that and at the same time say what Donald just said, which is that on the question of Supreme Court nominees he wants to compromise and reach a middle ground with Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer. That's what he said in the last debate. . . . And I would point out, Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer are both Democrats that Mr. Trump has written checks to repeatedly. Any justice that those two sign off on is going to be a left-wing judicial activist who will undermine religious liberty, and we are one vote away from the Heller decision being overturned, which would effectively erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights. Amendment rights, but when you say you'd compromise with Harry Reid, you put that in jeopardy.

* Cruz's most devastating line was probably this summation:

I understand the folks who are supporting Donald right now. You're angry. You're angry at Washington, and he uses angry rhetoric. But for 40 years, Donald has been part of the corruption in Washington that you're angry about. And you're not going to stop the corruption in Washington by supporting someone who has supported liberal Democrats for four decades, from Jimmy Carter to John Kerry to Hillary Clinton. You're not going to stop the corruption and the cronyism by supporting someone who has used government power for private gain.


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1 posted on 03/04/2016 1:33:29 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz crushed a breath mint. Partially, at first, but eventually, he got around to crushing the entire mint. :)


2 posted on 03/04/2016 1:39:35 AM PST by Vision Thing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz’s most devastating attack of the night was on that b—ger sitting on his lower lip. He attacked it with gusto. It didn’t stand a chance.

Yeah, I know. That was a crude and childish response on my part, but I couldn’t resist.


4 posted on 03/04/2016 1:40:18 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The booger incident turned Cruz into a laughingstock.

Fair or no, that’s the truth....


5 posted on 03/04/2016 1:42:43 AM PST by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Cruz’ sales pitch wasn’t hypocritical, it might work. But he’s definitely leveraged political power for his own personal gain. And leveraged that power at the expense of his own voters in Texas.


6 posted on 03/04/2016 1:43:10 AM PST by orangeTank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh please....now rubbish from THE WEEKLY STANDARD?

You're desperate and so are they!

Trump will easily get the required 1237 delegates on April 19th !

7 posted on 03/04/2016 1:48:19 AM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lyin Ted


8 posted on 03/04/2016 1:51:38 AM PST by sushiman
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To: nopardons

Where is the model for that? If it’s available, I’d like to bookmark it and see how Trump’s actuals compare.


9 posted on 03/04/2016 1:52:38 AM PST by orangeTank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gist:

1.) Trump is a fraud who can't be trusted to keep his word.

2.) Trump is not either conservative or Republican in any meaningful way.

3.) Trump actually is the corruption that he decries.

10 posted on 03/04/2016 1:55:06 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR becoming non compos mentis Cult of Trump. Thus: sadly & rapidly outliving its usefulness to me.)
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To: orangeTank

In the N.Y. Post last week, but not sure of which day; sorry.


11 posted on 03/04/2016 1:56:53 AM PST by nopardons
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Have you been eating blow fish sushi?


12 posted on 03/04/2016 1:57:40 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Found it:

http://nypost.com/2016/02/22/al-damato-thinks-trump-will-win-gop-nomination/

No details, just D’Amato predicting it.


13 posted on 03/04/2016 1:59:28 AM PST by orangeTank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently Trump’s “Cruz is a liar” meme has deranged a few FReepers. Oh well.


14 posted on 03/04/2016 2:00:40 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks for this article. It's become too painful to keep up with political news; I hardly even listen to Rush or Levin anymore because the thought that Americans are on the verge of electing people with no reverence for the Constitution-or the truth, for that matter-is downright depressing.
There's simply no reasoning with Trump supporters. There are no facts you can present to them even if the source is Trump himself that will move them to think; all they'll do is ridicule.

If you read the book of Proverbs, you must conclude that a large swath of the current electorate meets king Solomon's definition of a fool.

15 posted on 03/04/2016 2:00:41 AM PST by stormhill
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To: nopardons

Found the CORRECT article:

http://nypost.com/2016/02/14/trump-could-clinch-nomination-in-home-state-of-new-york/

:)


16 posted on 03/04/2016 2:00:52 AM PST by orangeTank
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cruz voted for the fast track-he is part of the corruption.


17 posted on 03/04/2016 2:01:32 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All you need to know about the Weakly photo CcpOy4hW0AAvrw6.jpg
18 posted on 03/04/2016 2:02:15 AM PST by rineaux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The record seems to be clear that Ted Cruz is a top notch debater.

Unfortunately, being a great technical debater is not tantamount to:

  1. being a great President
  2. inspiring American voters
  3. expanding the GOP demographic base
  4. being a leader of men
  5. making America great again
  6. winning enough delegates to get the nomination
  7. being a charismatic, likable person
If only...

Go. Trump. Go.

19 posted on 03/04/2016 2:02:24 AM PST by sargon
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To: stormhill
The fact is that Cruz will never win a general election.

That is a simple fact.

20 posted on 03/04/2016 2:02:49 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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