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I’m sorry—I badly underestimated Trump’s appeal to voters
Newsweek ^ | 6/5/16 | Lloyd Gruber

Posted on 06/05/2016 9:22:57 AM PDT by entropy12

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To: Grampa Dave
Newsweak is a waste of wood pulp and a waste of bandwidth, in its digital form. It used to be a "news magazine" that helped the unfortunates pass time in waiting rooms and barbershops. Over the past 30 years, it became a US version of Izvestia.
41 posted on 06/05/2016 10:01:34 AM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: xtargeter

Arkansas and Arizona both start with an “A” and are in flyover country. Easy to mix up.


42 posted on 06/05/2016 10:03:43 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Gold and silver are real money, everything else is a derivative)
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To: entropy12
This article has to count as part of the 95% they got wrong. The author still doesn't get it. Point one:

Maybe it’s the rage, stupid. Or more specifically, the animosity toward immigrants, even though America used to be held up as a beacon for oppressed people around the world.

Not "immigrants" and it never was. "Illegal immigrants". Criminals. Law-breakers who have been given a pass and sanctified by a commentariat that apparently can't see the difference. Of course the country was built on immigration. Legal immigration. Controlled immigration. Names being changed at Ellis Island. Respect for, not contempt for the flag.

Point two is so obvious even an academic might see it, but nary a mention: Hillary's decades-long participation in graft and political chicanery that has netted the Clinton Foundation some $437 million. Her open and shameless bribery. Her disastrous performance as Secretary of State. People may or may not notice the espionage activities centering around a clandestine email server but they do notice four dead Americans and an administration backing away and blaming someone else. That does not enhance a candidate's appeal any more than her ovaries do. That last is perhaps the most ridiculous bit of analysis in the piece - vote for her because she's a woman? As if there have never been women in American politics before? This, from a credentialed political scientist?

The appeal that remains mysterious to Gruber is simple - Sanders and Trump are Not That. They can be almost anything else but they are Not That, and suddenly Business As Usual has begun to stink so badly that the voters are quite simply flying from it holding their noses. At some point one might think Gruber would notice, but when you're part of the problem you don't notice the stench.

43 posted on 06/05/2016 10:04:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Hardens Hollow

I LOVE that Trump sticks to the truth no matter what. I was disappointed in Newt who was on Chris Wallace today and said he didn’t like that Trump called the judge a Mexican when he is an American citizen. Sometimes Newt doesn’t quite get it—yet.


44 posted on 06/05/2016 10:04:59 AM PDT by georgiegirl
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To: entropy12

“Maybe it’s the rage, stupid. Or more specifically, the animosity toward immigrants, even though America used to be held up as a beacon for oppressed people around the world. That used to be why America was great. “

This is why he will continue to get it wrong... smug arrogance, not a scientist just another leftist pundit.


45 posted on 06/05/2016 10:05:56 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: All
As a political scientist, I feel I owe you an apology …
I forgive you for being a political scientist. But are you repenting of it, or just feeling brief regret?
46 posted on 06/05/2016 10:07:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: georgiegirl

I’ve given up on Newt ever getting it. He’s too old and has had so many times when he could’ve chosen the right path on illegals.


47 posted on 06/05/2016 10:09:51 AM PDT by Hardens Hollow (Couldn't find Galt's Gulch, so created our own Harden's Hollow to quit paying the fascist beast.)
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To: entropy12

His Email The London School of Economics & Political Science

Houghton Street

London WC2A 2AE

United Kingdom

xTel: +44 (0)20-7955 6224

xFax: +44 (0)20-7955 6844

xEmail: L.Gruber@lse.ac.uk


48 posted on 06/05/2016 10:11:44 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: All

All the guy is saying is “Please, hire me again in the future!”


49 posted on 06/05/2016 10:13:31 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (The day Trump is sworn in I'm changing my screen name.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

They’re also not ‘getting’ the fact that Clinton’s life-long dishonesty, power-hunger and viciousness cause many to feel that - whatever happens - the election of Trump can’t possibly result in a worse outcome than a Hillary presidency will.


50 posted on 06/05/2016 10:15:53 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: SMGFan

Funny.
And Herself has never done such a thing.


51 posted on 06/05/2016 10:17:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: entropy12

“That makes 1760th pundit who guessed it wrong”

Indeed, and about the 500th mea culpa article during the last 10 days from one of said wrong-guessing pundits.

What’s interesting is that so many are fessing up this early in the game, instead of waiting a couple of days before the actual election, while in the meantime maintaining that Crooked Hillary was going to win up until almost the bitter end.

It’s interesting to note that many are quoting Scott Adams. Even MORE interesting would be to know the real motivations for fessing up this early. I suppose some feel such failed punditry all the way up to the bitter end could be the final blow of any shred of remaining credibility that they have. In the old days of total mainstream media monopoly, credibility didn’t matter because there was no competition and no alternative means to discover the truth. But the Internet has changed all of that, showing that most of these pundits have no clothes.

Nonetheless, it would be interesting to know some of the factual reasons they’ve switched from “Hillary landslide” to “Trump’s going to win”. For example, is it possible that practically everyone they know who should be solidly in the tank for Hillary has sidled up to them and secretly whispered in their ears that they’re gonna vote for Trump?


52 posted on 06/05/2016 10:18:36 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: entropy12
As a political scientist...

Today, most scientists ARE political!

53 posted on 06/05/2016 10:21:08 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: entropy12

Gruber still doesn’t get it. He wants to assign insidious and evil motives to that which HE doesn’t understand. Couldn’t possibly be that we want to protect ourselves our families and heritage and don’t buy into his utopian vision that up until now has been wrecking havoc on nations.


54 posted on 06/05/2016 10:26:30 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: xtargeter

Well, that’s as far as I got too.

Then I realized I was reading a Newsweek article, and closed the page.


55 posted on 06/05/2016 10:28:03 AM PDT by SelmaLee (Will crawl over broken, burning glass - to vote for TRUMP.)
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To: ladyjane

We are way past anger. Many people sense that this is it-the last chance for the Republic. Trump is just the vessel, perhaps the right man at the right time. If the dems prevail it is over. Violence and evil will increase. Anyone of any group who dares to depart from their plans will suffer. Civil war, revolution, balkanization, who knows. We are at the precipice.


56 posted on 06/05/2016 10:29:07 AM PDT by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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To: entropy12
Maybe it’s the rage, stupid. Or more specifically, the animosity toward immigrants, even though America used to be held up as a beacon for oppressed people around the world. That used to be why America was great.

The Republican base may never have been especially welcoming toward Hispanics or Muslims, but Trump’s candidacy has tapped into a well of hostility toward these groups, a ferocity of nativist sentiment, that took political scientists by surprise.

Wrong!

The apology was bait to get you to read leftist propaganda. I'm encouraged at how spectacularly they continue to get it wrong.

Go Trump Go!

57 posted on 06/05/2016 10:29:30 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: entropy12
Dear Lloyd:

Not to worry Lloyd. Every time I see a "Political Scientist" quoted as some type of expert (on any subject), I know my BS Meter will be pegged on maximum.

Sane people never took you seriously up to this point and will never do so in the future.

Enjoy your "safe space" lifestyle Lloyd.

58 posted on 06/05/2016 10:35:16 AM PDT by Col Freeper (Liberals: Devoted members of the "Church of the Eternally Offended".)
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To: entropy12

Politics isn’t a science.


59 posted on 06/05/2016 10:38:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: entropy12

I tried to listen to this and couldn’t. There seemed to be 4 or more different audio’s going at the same time. I stopped the one at the bottom of the page but it still was a jumble of audio’s.


60 posted on 06/05/2016 10:52:18 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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