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SUNY professor says Trump win at least 87 percent certain; other polls 'bunk'
The Post-Standard ^ | October 19, 2016 | Kevin Tampone

Posted on 10/19/2016 1:15:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Stony Brook, N.Y. — A SUNY professor continues to project Donald Trump as the likely winner of this year's election and he's critiquing polls that predict the opposite in a new opinion piece.

Helmut Norpoth has been predicting a Trump victory since early this year. His model currently projects a win for the Republican with a certainty of 87 to 99 percent.

Norpoth is a professor at Stony Brook University on Long Island.

That flies in the face of just about every other major election forecast out there, which mostly give an edge to Democrat Hillary Clinton, notes the Daily Mail.

Norpoth wrote in The Hill that although the race looks decided, current polling methods are "bunk."

The projections for Clinton are all based on opinion polls, which are flawed because they don't reflect actions, Norpoth wrote. They're about what voters think of Clinton or Trump, but they can't tell us exactly how voters will act on those thoughts.

"It is ingrained in all of us that voting is civic duty," he says. "So nearly all of us say, oh yes, I'll vote, and then many will not follow through."

Instead of opinion polling, Norpoth relies on statistics from candidates' performances in party primaries and patterns in the electoral cycle to forecast results. The model correctly predicted the victor in every presidential election since 1996, according to the Daily Mail.

Running the model on earlier campaigns comes up with the correct outcome for every race since 1912, except the 1960 election.

Norpoth wrote on his site that Trump's victories in early primary states are key predictors of his chances in November. The cycle also favors the GOP after two terms of a Democrat in the White House.

"So hold off on trusting poll-driven proclamations of a Clinton victory just yet," Norpoth wrote in The Hill. "Voters have a way of always getting the last word."


TOPICS: Campaign News; Polls
KEYWORDS: hillary; polls; trump
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1 posted on 10/19/2016 1:15:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please, please, please.....


2 posted on 10/19/2016 1:17:20 PM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thie election is making my mom very nervous (I am trying not to worry). I hope this guy is right.

1,728,000 seconds
28,800 minutes
480 hours
20 days
2 weeks and 6 days


3 posted on 10/19/2016 1:17:52 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His model has 1960 correct as that election was won by cheating.


4 posted on 10/19/2016 1:17:56 PM PDT by scbison
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Outlier” - MSM /s


5 posted on 10/19/2016 1:18:17 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The communist Hillary Clinton must be stopped at all costs.

Make Calls for Trump in Florida as that is the only way to stop this communist

Go Trump!

Our Freedom and civilization itself is at stake


6 posted on 10/19/2016 1:18:22 PM PDT by rurgan (Go Trump! This presidential race will be decided in only 2 sates Florida and Ohio)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry. I’m just not feeling all that optimistic. I have no doubt that the silent majority supports Trump, I just know the Democrats are a cheating machine.


7 posted on 10/19/2016 1:18:55 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: scbison

I thought the same thing.


8 posted on 10/19/2016 1:19:22 PM PDT by BRL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nobody wants more Obama but in a pantsuit.

Think about this folks, who do the American people want to hear talking to them over the next 4-8 years, Hillary or Trump?

I think Americans find Trump far more engaging.


9 posted on 10/19/2016 1:21:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The model correctly predicted every election except the 1960 one. I wonder why.


10 posted on 10/19/2016 1:24:09 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I keep remembering the media early on saying Trump
had the edge on “likeability”.....THE MEDIA
Then like a lightswitch,within two days they had Hilda leading...they got the message


11 posted on 10/19/2016 1:25:43 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: OldNewYork

Chicago and South Texas.


12 posted on 10/19/2016 1:25:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Only Trump can save American and keep us free , save our freedom that the communists like Hillary Clinton aim to take away.


13 posted on 10/19/2016 1:29:23 PM PDT by rurgan (Go Trump! This presidential race will be decided in only 2 sates Florida and Ohio)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just had lunch with 86 year old recently widowed Aunt. She’s voting Trump despite knowing that her husband of nearly 65 years would roll over in his grave if he knew. She said she just couldn’t vote for THAT woman even if Trump is lewd (her description). She’s been hanging up on pollsters and other political calls.


14 posted on 10/19/2016 1:31:54 PM PDT by noexcuses
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Norpoth relies on statistics from candidates' performances in party primaries and patterns in the electoral cycle to forecast results

I wonder if his model takes into account massive cheating and voter fraud by and on behalf of the Democrats...

15 posted on 10/19/2016 1:32:06 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: PghBaldy

My poor sister is a nervous wreck. At the age of 50 this is the first election she’s ever been passionate about. She’s a vocal and enthusiastic Trumpster.


16 posted on 10/19/2016 1:33:14 PM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent MajorityStands With TRUMP!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I knew about Chicago. What about South Texas?


17 posted on 10/19/2016 1:33:41 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the reason the 1960 election failed to predict accurately is because Kennedy’s father stole it.

If I remember correctly he manufactured enough votes in Chicago and Texas to throw those states to his son.


18 posted on 10/19/2016 1:33:42 PM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: noexcuses

Please tell your Aunt she is a wonderful woman to see through all the BS about Trump and to vote for him despite the media blitz against him.

Good for her!


19 posted on 10/19/2016 1:35:29 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: OldNewYork

Lyndon Baines Johnson.


20 posted on 10/19/2016 1:35:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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