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Oreilly V. DRUDGE: On the Factor tonight...
Oreilly Factor | Bill's Mouth

Posted on 12/17/2003 5:48:29 PM PST by jbstrick

What is Bill's problem with Matt tonight?

For those who did not watch the Factor tonight. Bill was compairing Matt to Michael Moore, etc. and basicly said you can not believe a thing on their web sites.

Its a Big Time Drudge bash fest. I guess he is a little PO'd because his book is not doing to well and Matt posted the results.


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Thoughts?
1 posted on 12/17/2003 5:48:29 PM PST by jbstrick
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To: jbstrick
I was wondering just what his problem with Matt is. For him to say that you can not believe ANYTHING on Drudge is going way too far.
2 posted on 12/17/2003 5:50:23 PM PST by mathluv
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To: jbstrick
Bill is all knicker-twisted over http://www.drudgereport.com/mattbc.htm
3 posted on 12/17/2003 5:51:17 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: jbstrick
If it doesn't come out of Bill's mouth, it isn't true. /sarcasm
4 posted on 12/17/2003 5:51:36 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: jbstrick
He also said that he has a modicum of respect for Michael Moore, that Moore doesn't deny what he is.
5 posted on 12/17/2003 5:53:26 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: Paul Atreides
saw it with the misses and we stood jaw adropped
Matt made the internet work and networks must have a website simply because Matt does.The difference ? The networks lose 20 to 30 k a MONTH just competing..........
6 posted on 12/17/2003 5:55:37 PM PST by cars for sale
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To: jbstrick
Bill is a huckster. People of principle scare him. People with ideas (what he sneeringly calls ideologues) are threatening to him. I have more respect for Michael Moore and Bill Moyers than I do for Mr. O’Really. At least they know what they believe and are willing to stand up for it.
7 posted on 12/17/2003 5:58:40 PM PST by AHWilde
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To: jbstrick
Rate Drudge by his overall accuracy, and his score is pretty low.
8 posted on 12/17/2003 5:59:05 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: jbstrick
I'm getting to the point where I can't stand O'Reilly.

The whole "I respect your opinion" thing drives me nuts and seems so phony, and his ego grows at an exponential rate!

Do you respect me for coming on to your thread and voicing my opinion?
9 posted on 12/17/2003 6:00:05 PM PST by ILBBACH (God did Bless us...every one!)
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To: cars for sale
O'Reilly is believing his own press too much. He must be jealous of Matt Drudge and the success of his site vs the flattening of O'Reilly's.
10 posted on 12/17/2003 6:00:33 PM PST by shadeaud (Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
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To: jbstrick
>>Thoughts?

I have more thoughts -- this is going to be just like O'Reilly's on-going fight with Al Franken - if Bill would have just ignored Franken's pathetic little book, hardly anyone would have known about it. Instead, O'Reilly starts a fire, and then feigns being pissed off about all the smoke.
11 posted on 12/17/2003 6:02:17 PM PST by Keith in Iowa
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To: shadeaud
Have you noticed that all O'Reilly does anymore is shill his books or his items? Is it just me, but it seems he talks about his crap for sale about 70% of the time.
12 posted on 12/17/2003 6:02:52 PM PST by Gillmeister
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To: jbstrick
I heard this, was surprised and Emailed Matt.

I think Bill is mad that Matt proved what he said about his book being #2 and rivaling Hillary a lie.

I think that is it.
13 posted on 12/17/2003 6:04:59 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mathluv
Bill's a little thin-skinned.
14 posted on 12/17/2003 6:05:11 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Paul Atreides
LOL... Matt trashed his rating compared to Sean Hannity one Sunday night. Pure schadenfreud.
15 posted on 12/17/2003 6:05:17 PM PST by cyborg
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To: jbstrick
o'blowdard makes me SO SICK I can hardly stand it. I listen to him so rarely that when I do I find myself yelling at the TV.

A day or two ago, he was DEFENDING ka ka ka katie kaka mourning the capture of saddam.

O'blowhard is a total digrace. Even Greta is better than he.

16 posted on 12/17/2003 6:05:40 PM PST by mombonn
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To: jbstrick; All
Y'all refresh my memory. Didn't this feud actually start over Drudge breaking the story about O'Reilly was going to start his radio show on the heels of Rush Limbaugh's ear operation? Something about O'Reilly being cold and choosing the wrong time to make a move, etc?
17 posted on 12/17/2003 6:06:53 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered. )
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To: jbstrick
O'Reilly is just biased - not in the same direction all the time, and he has a very thin skin for getting called for false information

http://www.drudgereport.com/mattbc.htm

IMHO he has a poor quality show - I usually turn to Hannity instead ( not much better).

I'm not looking for a Bush lap dog show - I like Savage the best for now.

18 posted on 12/17/2003 6:06:56 PM PST by paulk
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To: Clara Lou
O'Reilly seems to believe that his stock in trade lies in presenting himself as being scrupulously down the middle, fair to "both sides." Truth is, he's probably right-leaning, but wants to separate himself from the more popular conservatives such as Rush and Sean. Hence the Drudge-bashing (tho he does have a h***on for Drudge since Drudge broke the story of Bill's proposed radio show a while back). I find him entertaining, but for my money, give me the other guys any day.
19 posted on 12/17/2003 6:08:29 PM PST by Salvey
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To: jbstrick
O'reilly has a problem with the competition. Remember several months ago, O'reilly said to Neal Boortz "you're a vicious SOB" on the air.

The only thing bigger than O'reilly's mouth is his ego.
20 posted on 12/17/2003 6:08:43 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: jbstrick
Drudge has caught OReilly in lies multiple times about the success of his book, and the number of listeners on his radio show. Hence, OReilly has it in for Drudge.
21 posted on 12/17/2003 6:09:50 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: paulk
Haven't you noticed BY NOW folks?
1)Bill O'Reilly has a great show...BUT
2)Bill has a thin skin
3)If someone criticizes, questions or otherwise goes after him in a way that he goes after his guests he truly goes ballistic.
4)Bill O'Reilly then SPINS running a SPIN ZONE against whomever he is upset with at the time and pounds away at it constantly.
I am a HUGE FAN of his tv. show, radio show, and his books...
But he is NOT an objective person in a NO SPIN Zone -- no one doing any kind of advocacy program (right or left) can be, and we see that even journalists of all ideological stripes really cannot be totally objective.
He is very very thin skinned and uses his t.v. and radio shows to go after someone and generally when he does that his charges and claims against the person are truly overblown, seeming to be more of a trantrum from a highly paid and highly talented on-the-air-talent than a No Spin commentary.
He has done this repeatedly to people and institutions that I AGREE with him are not objective. He just goes into overdrive with exaggeration, and doesn't let up.
It truly is his Achielles Heel because each time he does it it chips away at his most precious commodity...his credibility.
Again I AM a HUGE fan of his tv show, radio show and books -- and of him. I listen to him and watch him all the time.
But I now take him with a huge grain of salt on most things because I see how he frames criticism of himself.
22 posted on 12/17/2003 6:11:50 PM PST by jraven
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To: paulk; All
Whenever I get sick of Sean, I'll turn to O'Reilly. At six when i'm at work, I listen to Mark Levin. Seven at home, it's streaming Larry Elder on the cable modem. I like Laura Ingraham, but her and a few others when you call their show, you get five seconds to talk.

I don't like John and Paul on WABC and that's why I'm getting Rush24.
23 posted on 12/17/2003 6:12:03 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
I would hate to see how sickening O'Reilly would get if he ever managed to get Madame HamHocks on his show.
24 posted on 12/17/2003 6:13:49 PM PST by Paul Atreides (Is it really so difficult to post the entire article?)
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To: mathluv
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU MAY 01, 2003 10:04:32 ET XXXXX

RADIO 'NO FACTOR': CABLE KING O'REILLY DISASTER ON THE DIAL

Bill O'Reilly's Radio Ratings Revealed Publicly For The First Time

**Exclusive**

Just released ARBITRON radio ratings show FOX NEWS CHANNEL and bestselling author Bill O'Reilly in near-collapse, just one year after launching a nationally syndicated rival to Rush Limbaugh.

MORE

For the completed Winter Book [January thru March '03], O'Reilly trailed Limbaugh in the same time slot by more than 5,000%, in the extreme.

Top industry insiders have kept the numbers under wraps -- until now.

25 posted on 12/17/2003 6:14:45 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest. - Capt. Tom)
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To: jbstrick
O'Really has an "I" problem. He can't see - or think - very well with all the smoke in his head (being blown in the other end by his PR people). He tries to be middle-of-the-road and offends both sides with his attempt at "no spin".
26 posted on 12/17/2003 6:15:15 PM PST by caisson71
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To: mathluv
More bad blood. -Tom XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WEDNESDAY MAY 08, 2002 22:53:12 ET XXXXX

TALKOLA TANTRUM; WESTWOOD ONE THREATENS TO PULL $300,000 AFTER LEAK; FOX NEWS HOST O'REILLY ADVISES: 'CRACK-ADDICT' DRUDGE 'SHOULD BE KILLED'

**Update**

Cable host and now talkradio broadcaster Bill O'Reilly was pushed over the edge this week after the DRUDGE REPORT revealed exclusively that $300,000 was promised to O'Reilly's New York City flagship station WOR-AM to carry the program.

Although VIACOMCBSINFINTYWESTWOODONE radio head Joel Hollander publicly denied to reporters that compensation was being paid to affiliates for carrying O'Reilly -- behind the scenes on Tuesday, Hollander threatened to pull the payout guarantee to WOR, blaming the station for the DRUDGE REPORT leak!

Meanwhile, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, Los Angeles' KABC-AM is receiving $250,000 in outdoor advertising from VIACOM in exchange for clearing The Bill O'Reilly Radio Program.

A similar comp deal has also been promised to O'Reilly's San Francisco affiliate.

Difficulty clearing O'Reilly in the Washington, DC market raised the payout price to $200,000, according to insiders -- a payout that was rejected by all major stations in the region, including ABC's WMAL-AM.

Just as O'Reilly showed signs of increasingly reckless behavior.

"There is no other cure than to kill Matt Drudge," O'Reilly charged on the IMUS in the MORNING radio show on Wednesday.

"I just want to tell everybody that Matt Drudge is smoking crack - right now, in South Miami Beach on Washington Avenue... And the authorities should know it."

This reporter is currently in London, England, not South Beach, and I have never smoked crack.

More O'Reilly lies.

[But for a couple hundred thou, heck, I'd even carry O'Reilly Radio.]

27 posted on 12/17/2003 6:20:38 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Anything done in moderation shows a lack of interest. - Capt. Tom)
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To: Paul Atreides
Oh dear... that would be a volcanic plumes of puke alert to see O'Reilly. One thing we can count on is that Hill will be wearing a black pants suit.
28 posted on 12/17/2003 6:21:22 PM PST by cyborg
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To: mathluv
Really was ahocked when Bill said you can't believe anything on Drudge! Big mistake on his part.
29 posted on 12/17/2003 6:22:42 PM PST by forward
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To: jbstrick
Some time ago, Drudge had O'Reilly on his Sunday night radio show. Drudge had uncovered O'Reilly's plan to launch a radio show to compete with Rush Limbaugh, soon after Rush had announced his deafness. Drudge confronted Bill O', and O'Reilly stated there was no such plan. A few months later O'Reilly had indeed launched his radio show, and was again lambasted by Drudge as a liar. Soon after O'Reilly went on the Imus morning radio show, and ranted that Drudge was a crack addict, lays around south beach all day smoking crack, and that Drudge should die!
30 posted on 12/17/2003 6:22:50 PM PST by TJFLSTRAT
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To: Catspaw
Bill is a "lot" thin skinned. He had better get over it.
The DNC will keep buying Hillary's books and drive him up a wall. Let it be Bill. It ain't worth it. Get on with the business at hand. No need to pick a book fight with people that can manipulate numbers. Every day is a gift. Bill is a success. Enjoy it Bill.
31 posted on 12/17/2003 6:24:48 PM PST by oldironsides
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To: forward
"ahocked" the new spelling of the word "shocked"---sry!
32 posted on 12/17/2003 6:25:10 PM PST by forward
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To: jbstrick
Within the last few days I heard O'gasbag blathering about assault weapons. It was obvious he wouldn't know an "assault" weapon if one bit him on the a**. Bill is so full of hot air he's a one man global warming event (Bill also frequently assures us that he believes in global warming, just to prove he's open-minded). The guy's ignorance is just too astounding at times. Even though he defends the "conservative" line in his back-handed way, I can't take him seriously. He complains constantly about mean things being written about him on the internet, and he'd put a stop to it if he could.
33 posted on 12/17/2003 6:26:41 PM PST by CrossCheck
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To: jbstrick
You might be right. O'Reilly has to be one of the most self-absorbed personalities I've seen in my lifetime.
34 posted on 12/17/2003 6:29:37 PM PST by Hildy
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To: jbstrick
Always surprised that so many FReepers react SO negatively to O'Reilly. I enjoy his wisdom and his exposing of "spin." His arrogance can get unpleasant but so does Rush's arrogance and nobody on this board seems to complain about that.

As for his beef with Drudge, O'Reilly's ratings numbers for "The Factor" are published there showing him whipping the butt of all other comers and Fox whipping butt of CNN across the board.

So how can O'Reilly compare Drudge to Moore, not to believed? Something doesn't make sense. Drudge's material is mostly linked to newspapers....what I use anyway.

35 posted on 12/17/2003 6:33:19 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: jbstrick
O'REILLY IS A SELF CENTERED, ARROGANT BLOWHARD. Other than that, he is an assanine, blovating, loudmouth that does not deserve a television show.

In summary, he sucks.
36 posted on 12/17/2003 6:35:06 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: jbstrick
O'REILLY IS A SELF CENTERED, ARROGANT BLOWHARD. Other than that, he is an assanine, blovating, loudmouth that does not deserve a television show.

In summary, he sucks.
37 posted on 12/17/2003 6:35:22 PM PST by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: jbstrick
O'Reilly has no core beliefs, at least when it comes to his show.

His positions, though internally consistent, are all over the map from issue to issue.

For instance, he is an environmental extremist, but he is also a fiscal conservative.

The plan is to suck people in who watch/hear him espouse a position on a certain topic that is identical with theirs.

"This guy is one of us" the hapless viewer/listener thinks.

The fact that he/she disagrees with the next ten positions O'Reilly takes does not phase him/her.

The one out of ten times they agree with O'Reilly is what keeps them hangin' on.
38 posted on 12/17/2003 6:36:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: jbstrick
O'Reilly bats his eyes too much and seems too nervous to be a man. ...more like a very sassy granny. Was he once a woman? Did he not have a good father?
39 posted on 12/17/2003 6:36:32 PM PST by familyop (Essayons - motto of good, stable psychotics with a purpose)
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To: billhilly
LOL... I take it you are not a good friend of Bill.
40 posted on 12/17/2003 6:36:55 PM PST by cyborg
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To: oldironsides
The DNC will keep buying Hillary's books and drive him up a wall.

I think you have really hit the true credibility problem. Actual books purchased by ordinary citizens should be the true indicator. As it is, it can be manipulated silly for sure.

41 posted on 12/17/2003 6:39:03 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: jbstrick; Alamo-Girl; GRRRRR; RedBloodedAmerican; Ragtime Cowgirl; mhking; anniegetyourgun; ...
Yea i could think of a number of places and people to mention instead of Drudge what about the DU since when has drudge became a tabloid ? and a lier ?
42 posted on 12/17/2003 6:40:42 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (A nation of sheep will eventually beget a government of wolves !)
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To: jbstrick
My thoughts are the same as always.

Mr. O has his liberal populist screw loose because he has no friggin idea what is on the drudge site or any conservative site for that matter.

Plus, he pandered to his guests by attacking conservative sites when the subject was Michael Moore and Payne.com.

I changed the channel as usual.

43 posted on 12/17/2003 6:42:41 PM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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To: jbstrick
Email Bill a note...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html
45 posted on 12/17/2003 6:44:57 PM PST by sausageseller
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To: Gillmeister
Have you noticed that all O'Reilly does anymore is shill his books or his items? Is it just me, but it seems he talks about his crap for sale about 70% of the time

Except for Hannity. Hannity can't connect three thought together before he stutters, changes the subject; and speaks in the poorest grammar I've ever heard.

My 12 and 15 year old children constantly correct Sean's grammar.

46 posted on 12/17/2003 6:47:35 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: sausageseller
I always think of the time that Drudge had the pic of the baby in the womb holding the surgons finger.

His boss told him if he showed it on the TV he'd be out of a job.

He did it anyway.

Drudge is a new media HERO.

O'Reilly is a bitter old man whom I can live without...
47 posted on 12/17/2003 6:50:34 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: Cobra64
I'm sure you brilliant children will far surpass Sean in earnings and talent.
48 posted on 12/17/2003 6:52:03 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Gillmeister
O'Reilly has become a character of himself, his arm must get tired from constant patting of his own back. What I love is how Boortz gets his goat, he really pisses off O'Reilly!
49 posted on 12/17/2003 6:54:59 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (En la boca cerrada, no entran moscas)
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To: jbstrick
Bill has his faults. However, he is one of the very few to dare to challenge Rev. Jesse Jackson. And he has gone after the corrupt lawyer Feldman and the ACLU.

One of Bill's core beliefs is that child porn is evil and he has attacked the ACLU for its support of child molesters. And Bill is often interesting, certainly far better than Paula Zahn with her ever present "deer in the headlights" stare.

50 posted on 12/17/2003 7:01:05 PM PST by Dante3
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